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Why make such a blanket statement? You do realize that Obama would never had been president without the votes of millions upon millions of white people, right?


Not white GOP votes. It was Blacklash plain and simple and they're still blacklashing on Obama and his policies because the GOP considers those policies flawed only because they came from a black man.


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Uh huh.

It’s always funny that somehow, it’s us who are causing the divide.

We’ve been talked down to, beaten, killed, enslaved, lynched, etc...but the moment we do anything to try and make our situation better, or to deal with the mental side of this problem, all of a sudden we’re the ones dividing people.

Like I said before, it’s damned if we do, damn if we don’t. We will always be in the wrong no matter what we do.

This conversation proved exactly that.


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You obviously didn't read my post. It's both sides looking at the differences instead of looking at the similarities. Both sides help create the divide. And no, you're not wrong no matter what you do.

But creating a double standard in our language certainly doesn't help.

I'm not your enemy swish.


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Pit..It's not a double standard by Swish in our language considering the n word wasn't meant as derogatory term but ended up just that. IMO It becomes a double standard when the term is used in meanness or a pathetic show of superiority.


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So it's either right for everyone to say or wrong for everyone to say has no merit to some? Okay.


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Here's what I know about Race...

If you and I were laying on a beach, soaking up the sun, and a swimmer walked out of the ocean, he would not know we are different races because he could only see the bottoms of our feet.

Even if we waved to him with the palms of our hands, he would not know we are different races.

Only when he walked up close enough to look down on us would he know to hate you.

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Here's what I know about Race...

If you and I were laying on a beach, soaking up the sun, and a swimmer walked out of the ocean, he would not know we are different races because he could only see the bottoms of our feet.

Even if we waved to him with the palms of our hands, he would not know we are different races.

Only when he walked up close enough to look down on us would he know to hate you.




Except when there were signs on the path leading to the beach that read "No blacks allowed."


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Pit will say that the way AA's have flipped the N word around is somehow a problem, but then:

Ohio youth team kicked out of rec league over offensive jerseys

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A boys basketball team has been kicked out of a Cincinnati-area recreational hoops league for wearing uniforms bearing a sexually suggestive team name on the front and racially objectionable names on the back.

Four weeks into the Cincinnati Premier Youth Basketball League’s season, parents of players on a team from West Clermont, Ohio, saw that the team from Kings Mills, Ohio, against whom their children were playing was named “The Wet Dream Team.” They also noticed that the names on the backs of the high-school-aged boys’ jerseys included phrases like “Knee Grow” and “Coon.”

Tony Rue, a parent of a West Clermont player, highlighted the eyebrow-raising jerseys in a lengthy Facebook post asking how such attire, and such a team name, was deemed appropriate for a league that hosts players from grades two through 12.

“By no means are we perfect parents or assume our teenage boys are innocent and don’t speak of things like this, but I could never imagine allowing my teenage son to represent his school and league in this manner, let alone representing our family with such filth,” Rue wrote. “[…] There is enough hate, bullying, and aggressive behavior in the world that these kids, parents, and schools shouldn’t have to deal with bigotry and lewd innuendos on jerseys and in team names in a school district represented recreational basketball league. This isn’t a typo, this isn’t a mistake, these are ideas that were thought of, discussed, agreed upon by adults and kids alike, printed on uniforms, social media accounts registered and manned and no one thought this was a bad idea or inappropriate?”

“It was so blatant that it had to be fake,” Rue later told Chris Mayhew of the Cincinnati Enquirer. “Sadly it wasn’t.”

So Rue raised a flag with a rep for the youth league, wondering how this team was being allowed to play with stuff like this written on its uniforms.

“I think he called people above him, and about midway through the second quarter, he came and got the refs’ attention and told him the game was over,” Rue told Karin Johnson of Cincinnati NBC affiliate WLWT-TV. “It was called. We weren’t going to be a part of it.”

And now, the “Wet Dream Team” won’t be, either.

“CPYBL was developed to provide the best possible basketball experience for the youth of our communities and their families and has always been committed to bringing a positive experience to all of our members,” wrote Cincinnati Premier Youth Basketball League spokesman Ben Goodyear in a statement to the Enquirer. “Based on the information that we received, the actions and conduct of the team in question did not comply with our stated mission and expected standards and that team has, therefore, been dismissed from our league.”

They’ve also been “restricted from any further use of district facilities,” according to a spokesperson for the Kings Local School District, who emphasized that this team of students and the league in which they were playing isn’t affiliated with the district itself.

“Kings Local Schools strongly condemns any type of hateful and racist commentary,” wrote spokesperson Dawn Gould. “This behavior is in no way welcome or tolerated in our schools and community.”

The team’s coach, Walt Gill, apologized “to anyone that was offended by the jerseys” in a statement to WLWT. He noted that the team “offered to cover them up or change,” but that the league still chose to eject the team, “and we have accepted that decision.”

The incident has drawn the attention of the Cincinnati chapter of the NAACP, which wants to have a chat with the people in charge of the rec league.

“This is a teachable moment for [the teen players] to understand how these words are hurtful,” Cincinnati NAACP first vice president Joe Mallory told Cincinnati Fox affiliate WXIX-TV. “They’re inflammatory, and they’re divisive to the entire community. […] It’s everybody’s problem. It’s everybody’s business that when these things happen we all stand up and speak out on it.”

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Pit was me and others to bend over backwards for the same group of people who have no problem doing crap like this.

no. go find some "older" guys you know to agree with whatever you're pushing.


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I blame it on Elijah Cummings and the rest of the so called leaders in the Baltimore area after all Elijah has been their rep since 1996 as he and the liberal leaders watched the demise of the city of Baltimore with the urban blight, loss of jobs ,the failing school systems [run by liberals] rise in crime but hey as long as they can blame it on Conservatives and Trump I guess that those phony joke dems in congress feed all their energy to make sure all the illegals get taken care of its all good lmfo

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You have someone who agrees with you on almost everything except the use of a single word and now I'm the enemy. No wonder you can't convince anyone of your views. When you attack those who agree with you on 90% of everything, it's no wonder we end up with a guy like trump in the white House. Maybe you actually deserve him.


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man stop acting like people around here were gonna be convinced in the first place.

maybe i do deserve Trump. but we all know you do, too.


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Yeah, I disagree with the use of a single word. So that means I asked you to "bend over backwards"? Do you even comprehend what that means? lmao

You go ahead and attack everyone who doesn't agree with you on every single issue. See how that works for you.


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The biggest detriment to the success of Blacks in America has been when the Liberal White man sells them those most destructive words...

"I am here to help you." "This is what you must do."

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If the other choice was any better, they'd vote that way.

Or are you trying to insinuate that the black race isn't smart enough to figure that out?


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If the other choice was any better, they'd vote that way.

Or are you trying to insinuate that the black race isn't smart enough to figure that out?


No, I am saying, in my opinion, Black Americans would have done a whole lot better for themselves without white people stepping in, telling them how they should feel, how they should act or how they should think. Like you are doing in these threads with Swish.

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I'm giving my opinion as to my thoughts on a certain subject. Please feel free to quote anywhere that I told him how to act.

So at what point should white people have backed out?

Before slavery? While slavery was being done? Before the civil rights act?

just curious. I know Jeff sessions felt like slavery was pretty much the ood old days. So I'm just wondering at what point white people should have just backed off and let them alone?


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The white Liberal comes a calling saying we are here to help you...

-We will build you housing!

(then they built these towers of rats and poverty in all our cities. The Ghetto.) (they herded Blacks into those buildings like cattle and made it very difficult to escape.)

-We will help you with income!

(they paid out the welfare and food stamps, further trapping the people, making them dependent on the government. (Just don't earn too much or your benefits will be cut off.)

-We will help you with life's problems!
(so the mom and dad with 2 kids got this much money while the mom and dad with 8 kids got more.) (More kids equals more money and guarantees continued poverty and dependence.)
(Oh, but I have no husband to help me with my kids! So more money was given for single moms over moms and dads.)
(then the fathers left as it cost their families if they stayed. Jimmy Brown talked of men sleeping around and birthing more babies as the single moms got more money for more kids.)

-We will help your families!

(then they destroyed the family as they created a whole generation of kids without dads and families completely dependent on the government.)

-Today we hear, We will help you with your BLM thang!
(I watched as they marched and had more and more problem finding Black people in the crowd as Liberal whites all but took it over.) They changed the message as they pushed Blacks aside.)

So my advice to any Minority would be when the white liberal comes a calling and wants to help you, RUN!

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It works perfectly fine. I’m solo dolo


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in my opinion, Black Americans would have done a whole lot better for themselves without white people stepping in, telling them how they should feel, how they should act or how they should think.

Doesn't every politician do that to all of us in every election cycle?

In reality, black Americans would have done a whole lot better for themselves if white people hadn't spent decades telling them where they could live, where they could go to school, what jobs they could have, when they were allowed to voice their opinion, etc... this isn't about "feelings".. it's about opportunity (or lack thereof).


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To some extent yes but we can not be done to by a politician anymore than we allow ourselves to be done to.

Just as the Jews, the Irish, the Chinese, and the Mexicans have done, they lived hard and over time they worked their way out of the complete dependence on the Government and out of poverty.

Blacks were never given the freedom or opportunity to do this.
They were trapped from day one and the white liberal kept adding springs to strengthen that trap, decade after decade.

Black People would have been just fine if we had allowed them to work it out on their own. They will be just fine if we allow them to find their own leaders and their own way in the future.

We still reserve the right to gripe when they do something we don't like but for God's sake, set them free!

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
The biggest detriment to the success of Blacks in America has been when the Liberal White man sells them those most destructive words...

"I am here to help you." "This is what you must do."


I just wonder HOW MANY TIMES THEY HAVE TO BE DUPED before they catch on ...

Must be the price of a minorities vote is a free cell phone ... *shrugs* ...

I can’t figure out why minorities CONTINUE to vote for a party that does SQUAT FOR THEM ...

Stupid is as Stupid does I guess ...




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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
To some extent yes but we can not be done to by a politician anymore than we allow ourselves to be done to.

Just as the Jews, the Irish, the Chinese, and the Mexicans have done, they lived hard and over time they worked their way out of the complete dependence on the Government and out of poverty.

Blacks were never given the freedom or opportunity to do this.
They were trapped from day one and the white liberal kept adding springs to strengthen that trap, decade after decade.

Black People would have been just fine if we had allowed them to work it out on their own. They will be just fine if we allow them to find their own leaders and their own way in the future.

We still reserve the right to gripe when they do something we don't like but for God's sake, set them free!


What an utter load of crap! You are just self-justifying stereotypes with your white supremacists regurgitations! You and Diam sitting here spouting this crap from some deluded holier than thou white privileged situation is nothing more than another act of hate and betrayal from the right.

The left they don't care about people, blah blah blah... There are far more humanitarians on the left than the right, FAR MORE!

Now I'm not talking parties, I'm talking right and left thinking and the general population! People on the left actually give a damn about the position people are in NOW, not what ifs or pull yourself ups... You sicken me to my soul some days. Disgusting human beings.

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You have my opinion and I even waived my usual fee.

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still a relevant video to this day.


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The verdict has to be unanimous. One juror certainly has impact on a guilty verdict.


I'm aware, but it can cause a hung jury....
That would have been the black guy right? willynilly

Sorry, thought a little levity to this thread was needed.

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