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Shoot, now the comments we made about Tabor on the Coaching Hire thread will need to either be regurgitated or be lost forever...LOL

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My bad, was pretty excited about it myself. I looked around to see if it was anywhere.
Really though in coaching hire thread? Aways so off topic I looked in Rosen thread first.
Again, sorry just excited to see him go.

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I wasn't criticizing you. I was just kidding around. It probably already deserves its own thread. I just feel dumb re-posting what I already said. But again..........you didn't do anything wrong.

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Agreed. Meh.

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Let's see who we hire before we throw a parade.

Seriously I read this and then just read Broncos hired Greg Williams as DB coach.

Before anyone has a heart attack like I did, it's Greg with 1 "G".

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It's about time. I just never was impressed with our special teams.

Under Mangini/Seely our Special Teams was so much better.

Teflon Tabor made it through so many regime changes. I figured he must date Haslam's daughter or something.


Seemed like a nice enough guy, was well regarded by coaches, but I just never have seen it. I've wanted Teflon Tabor gone for awhile


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I disagree. I think he is a good coach.

The top of our rosters were terrible. What do you think the bottom was like? Those guys are your special team dudes.

I watched his units and I didn't see any schematic fundamental issues. I saw some poor tackling at times and guys who didn't belong out there.

Furthermore, Sashi got rid of a lot of our best Special Team players and we were forced to throw guys like R. Louis out there who despised tackling.

I don't think losing him is a huge deal, but I would have preferred that we would have kept him. This is the first move of the off-season I am not thrilled with.

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I disagree. I think he is a good coach.

The top of our rosters were terrible. What do you think the bottom was like? Those guys are your special team dudes.


Season after season it's always something with Tabor.

I mean, this guy was before Sashi. This guy was before Pettine. Wasn't this guy hired during the Shurmur years?


I mean, jeeze. Remember the two blocked field goals in like two games in a row or in one game? Missed blocks by Cameron Irving and Danny Shelton. Both guys are athletic enough to play special teams.


How about the year no one could catch a punt. I mean nobody. Even Jim Leonhard, who only had to fair catch the thing, dropped the ball (because he decided to run in out (it was a fumble))


What was the longest return we had this year? And when we really needed a decent play to win the game, we gave up that ridiculously long return to Green Bay?


Tabor has been around here awhile. I've never been impressed. He's seen regime change after regime change, yet he's always stuck around.



There's way too many other guys in the NFL that want an opportunity. Sorry Tabor, don't let the door hit you when you leave. You sure as heck are no Brad Seely




EDIT: I would also like to say, thank you to Hue Jackson for letting this guy go. I'm sure he's a nice guy, and I wish him the best professionally and all that (on a personal level, anyone getting fired sucks), so I'm happy that he's found a new job. But man, this is good news to me. See ya later Tabor

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Chris Tabor was hired based on the work he did as Dave Toub's assistant (while with the Bears). Weird that the guy everyone says our new GM wants as his head coach is Dave Toub and we let his former protege leave.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
... I think he is a good coach.


Something I've noticed over the years is that immediately following major roster changes special teams play goes South. Then, over the next couple years they are good again. That makes sense since the influx of rookies and second year players are settling into their responsibilities.

NOT AN EXCUSE: Tabor was saddled with a new group of young players last year and again this year. Things take time. He'll do well in Chicago, once he settles in.


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He got hired all ready? ...

Holy crap was that quick!




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Somebody doesn't think he is a bad coach.

Somebody from the coaching staff had to be held accountable for last years mess.


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From what I understand, he wasn't fired. Chicago must have reached out to him and we allowed him to walk.

I am not positive that's what happened, but that is my understanding of the situation. There weren't any reports of him being fired that I am aware of.

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Thanks ...

That explains the quick turnaround in getting hired in Chicago ...

Fired ... let him pursue other opportunities ... SEMANTICS ...




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When was the last time we returned a punt? Kickoff?

Has our field goal unit been outstanding?

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
From what I understand, he wasn't fired. Chicago must have reached out to him and we allowed him to walk.

I am not positive that's what happened, but that is my understanding of the situation. There weren't any reports of him being fired that I am aware of.



I know....it just sort of happened.


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Addition by subtraction. We've had such incredibly poor special teams for such a long time and this guy has survived multiple regime changes. pfft


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Originally Posted By: mgh888
Addition by subtraction. We've had such incredibly poor special teams for such a long time and this guy has survived multiple regime changes. pfft


In the 15th & 16th games of this year...we got a delay of game penalty when lined up to punt...and not on-purpose either...in the last two games of the year. I'm ready for some new coaches...and some kind of team identity.

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Our STs have been pretty bad IMO. Our coverage units pretty good, but overall it's been below average. Penalties, no return yardage, nary a blocked kick/punt


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Do we know if he was actually fired or if he was just allowed to leave?

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Do we know if he was actually fired or if he was just allowed to leave?


Tabor has been one constant for the Browns during an incredible period of turnover for the organization, enduring two owners, five general managers and four head coaches. Browns coach Hue Jackson agreed to let Tabor out of his contract to return to Chicago....

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/foo...0110-story.html


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Do we know if he was actually fired or if he was just allowed to leave?


Tabor has been one constant for the Browns during an incredible period of turnover for the organization, enduring two owners, five general managers and four head coaches. Browns coach Hue Jackson agreed to let Tabor out of his contract to return to Chicago....

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/foo...0110-story.html


Thanks. So what do we make of this?

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Do we know if he was actually fired or if he was just allowed to leave?


Tabor has been one constant for the Browns during an incredible period of turnover for the organization, enduring two owners, five general managers and four head coaches. Browns coach Hue Jackson agreed to let Tabor out of his contract to return to Chicago....

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/foo...0110-story.html


Thanks. So what do we make of this?


well, I can make a hat, or a broach, a pterodactyl...


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Do we know if he was actually fired or if he was just allowed to leave?


Tabor has been one constant for the Browns during an incredible period of turnover for the organization, enduring two owners, five general managers and four head coaches. Browns coach Hue Jackson agreed to let Tabor out of his contract to return to Chicago....

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/foo...0110-story.html


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Maybe Tabor felt HE needed a change he has been here awhile.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
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Do we know if he was actually fired or if he was just allowed to leave?


Tabor has been one constant for the Browns during an incredible period of turnover for the organization, enduring two owners, five general managers and four head coaches. Browns coach Hue Jackson agreed to let Tabor out of his contract to return to Chicago....

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/foo...0110-story.html


Thanks. So what do we make of this?


He's been trying to get fired for years lol.

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Originally Posted By: mgh888
Addition by subtraction. We've had such incredibly poor special teams for such a long time and this guy has survived multiple regime changes. pfft




I disagree. Tabor was a good coach and we ranked pretty high before this past season.

The ST coach works with the bottom of the roster guys. Our bottom of the roster wasn't as good as it was a few years ago.

The ST coach can only coach them. It still takes them returning kicks and punts and tackling and punting and kicking.

Some of you are acting like it was he that wasn't returning kicks for touchdowns.


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Over 7 seasons Tabor managed to survive 2 owners, 5 general managers and 4 different head coaches with the Browns.


He should be in the HOF just for this. What's the opposite of continuity?


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The Browns?

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Addition by subtraction. We've had such incredibly poor special teams for such a long time and this guy has survived multiple regime changes. pfft




I disagree. Tabor was a good coach and we ranked pretty high before this past season.

The ST coach works with the bottom of the roster guys. Our bottom of the roster wasn't as good as it was a few years ago.

The ST coach can only coach them. It still takes them returning kicks and punts and tackling and punting and kicking.

Some of you are acting like it was he that wasn't returning kicks for touchdowns.


his best years we were middle of te pack as far as ST... his problem was he took over from a great ST coach...


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I assumed he had tapes or pictures or something. Not sorry to see this one leave finally. Overdue IMO.

Who do we take in for this? Any assistants coming/going as well? We have had breakdowns in the past. I think we just got a little better.


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