|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,253
Hall of Famer
|
OP
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,253 |
Just saw that on my beloved Fox News. Lowest Black unemployment ever. I don't know how this got past Swish,OCD , Sprial, PDF. Say it with me boys....Trump 2020.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 52,480
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 52,480 |
probably because we've already had this discussion in the baltimore thread.
it didn't get past us, but it clearly got past you.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
- Theodore Roosevelt
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 55,499
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 55,499 |
I have a question. Back in the day, the unemployment numbers weren't very accurate. That is because once a person's unemployment benefits expired, they were no longer included in the unemployment percentage.
Is that still the case or have they corrected that dumb ass oversight? I ask because that has severely skewed the percentages in the past and the political innuendo that came out of those numbers in the 70s and 80s was a farce.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 52,480
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 52,480 |
i think thats still occuring.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
- Theodore Roosevelt
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 55,499
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 55,499 |
I figured. If that is still true, I wouldn't put too much stock into those numbers. There are people who have been unemployed for years and years and years. I guess they don't count. 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 52,480
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 52,480 |
it depends.
you have people who got fed up with trying to find work, people who just don't care about finding work, students, stay at home wives/husbands, etc.
so there's a lot to take into account.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
- Theodore Roosevelt
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 55,499
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 55,499 |
I agree w/all of that, Swish. My point is that saying the unemployment rate is down is not such a great statistic.
I think I'll borrow one of Diam's sayings.........Stats are for...........
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 52,480
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 52,480 |
and my normal reply would that while stats don't tell the whole story, it gives us a baseline to start with in our discussion.
for example, norway had an average unemployment rate of 3.3% between 97-2013.
right now it sits at 4.2%, and people over are upset with the government for that.
so now that we have the stats, we have to figure out what it means.
but then if people are giving opinions with no facts to back them up - for example, like the unemployment rate - then we're in a completely different problem.
how does this relate to the thread?
Dawg said to thank Trump. but i pointed out very accurately that the trend of AA unemployment has been going down since OBama was president, and that the unemployment for Americans as a whole was going down under Obama, which continued into the Trump presidency.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
- Theodore Roosevelt
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 55,499
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 55,499 |
Huh? I was actually trying to support your argument.
Never mind.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 52,480
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 52,480 |
well i was just trying to have a cool discussion with you.
my bad for trying to have a discussion.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
- Theodore Roosevelt
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 34,622
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 34,622 |
Just saw that on my beloved Fox News. Lowest Black unemployment ever. I don't know how this got past Swish,OCD , Sprial, PDF. Say it with me boys....Trump 2020. Better hope he gets through 2018 first, lol
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,246
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,246 |
I had a really good job two and a half years ago. I lost it for reasons a bit beyond my control and only now just started again full time. It took moving to a different state (a financial nightmare!) and dozens and dozens of resume rewrites and cover letters and interviews and literal tears.
I collected unemployment, it ran out, I struggled and struggled.
Finding a job IS a job and it's not fun at all. You never know what an employer is looking for. You may have it all down on paper and they hire someone else. I applied for a shipping manager position and have over ten years experience in managing people and putting processes in place, dispatch. Ten years, not much maybe but something. They hired some young girl, fresh out of college, no relative education to shipping, no experience in shipping period and no experience in managing people or processes. SMH. I know this because I got hired as a laborer in that place (I was good enough for that at least!) and then let go (go figure) I was a laborer in the same company in the same department and I met her. Good for her though right?
On an unrelated note, my wife, who has a masters in her field and over 20 years experience got passed over for a promotion for a younger lady with NO experience in the field, NO experience in managing people (but my wife does).
I get frustrated when I hear people yell or complain, or say "why don't you just get a job?!" If it were just that easy. If you just picked one off a shelf. It's difficult, it's disheartening. It can make you lose a lot of confidence in yourself.
Any way. I'm glad to hear unemployment is down. I sincerely hope those that are unemployed and giving an honest effort to find a job do so. And lastly, none of this, none of it had or has anything to do with Trump being president or even Obama for that matter.
Last edited by bluecollarball; 01/11/18 06:15 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 25,823
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 25,823 |
I tip my hat to you sir. 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 39,678
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 39,678 |
No doubt it isn't easy.
Sure, anybody can go get a job. The question what kind of job? Once you are in a job, it's hard to seek a better job.
I fully understand your point and plight.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. GM Strong ![[Linked Image]](http://www.dawgtalkers.net/uploads/small-gator-chomp.gif)
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,399
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,399 |
and my normal reply would that while stats don't tell the whole story, it gives us a baseline to start with in our discussion.
for example, norway had an average unemployment rate of 3.3% between 97-2013.
right now it sits at 4.2%, and people over are upset with the government for that.
so now that we have the stats, we have to figure out what it means. As long as stats like unemployment are calculated the same way every time, then the trends or the direction of movement is far more important than the actual number. For the reasons stated, the actual number isn't all that accurate because there are so many variables.
yebat' Putin
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,988
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,988 |
I had a really good job two and a half years ago. I lost it for reasons a bit beyond my control and only now just started again full time. It took moving to a different state (a financial nightmare!) and dozens and dozens of resume rewrites and cover letters and interviews and literal tears.
I collected unemployment, it ran out, I struggled and struggled.
Finding a job IS a job and it's not fun at all. You never know what an employer is looking for. You may have it all down on paper and they hire someone else. I applied for a shipping manager position and have over ten years experience in managing people and putting processes in place, dispatch. Ten years, not much maybe but something. They hired some young girl, fresh out of college, no relative education to shipping, no experience in shipping period and no experience in managing people or processes. SMH. I know this because I got hired as a laborer in that place (I was good enough for that at least!) and then let go (go figure) I was a laborer in the same company in the same department and I met her. Good for her though right?
On an unrelated note, my wife, who has a masters in her field and over 20 years experience got passed over for a promotion for a younger lady with NO experience in the field, NO experience in managing people (but my wife does).
I get frustrated when I hear people yell or complain, or say "why don't you just get a job?!" If it were just that easy. If you just picked one off a shelf. It's difficult, it's disheartening. It can make you lose a lot of confidence in yourself.
Any way. I'm glad to hear unemployment is down. I sincerely hope those that are unemployed and giving an honest effort to find a job do so. And lastly, none of this, none of it had or has anything to do with Trump being president or even Obama for that matter. Let me get this straight these guys praise Trump for lowering the unemployment rate from around 4.7 to 4.1 and theyt ignore that Obama lowered it from over 10% to around 5% before you even lost your job a couple of years ago? Otay Some of you have no clue what it was like over the last 40 years with the constant corporate cutbacks and offshoring done in the 70's 80's and 90's. And No Crap! It's hard work to change careers and find work. We've all had to do it and many have had to move multiple times different states, and yeah, it sucks. For these guys throw praise on Trump for a less than a 1% change in unemployment is laughable. It was on Obama then and now it's on Trump!
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,399
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,399 |
Let me get this straight you praise Trump for lowering the unemployment rate from around 4.7 to 4.1 and ignore that Obama lowered it from over 10% to around 5% before you even lost your job a couple of years ago? Otay
Did you quit reading early? His last sentence very specifically says: And lastly, none of this, none of it had or has anything to do with Trump being president or even Obama for that matter.
yebat' Putin
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 8,974
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 8,974 |
I had a really good job two and a half years ago. I lost it for reasons a bit beyond my control and only now just started again full time. It took moving to a different state (a financial nightmare!) and dozens and dozens of resume rewrites and cover letters and interviews and literal tears.
I collected unemployment, it ran out, I struggled and struggled.
Finding a job IS a job and it's not fun at all. You never know what an employer is looking for. You may have it all down on paper and they hire someone else. I applied for a shipping manager position and have over ten years experience in managing people and putting processes in place, dispatch. Ten years, not much maybe but something. They hired some young girl, fresh out of college, no relative education to shipping, no experience in shipping period and no experience in managing people or processes. SMH. I know this because I got hired as a laborer in that place (I was good enough for that at least!) and then let go (go figure) I was a laborer in the same company in the same department and I met her. Good for her though right?
On an unrelated note, my wife, who has a masters in her field and over 20 years experience got passed over for a promotion for a younger lady with NO experience in the field, NO experience in managing people (but my wife does).
I get frustrated when I hear people yell or complain, or say "why don't you just get a job?!" If it were just that easy. If you just picked one off a shelf. It's difficult, it's disheartening. It can make you lose a lot of confidence in yourself.
Any way. I'm glad to hear unemployment is down. I sincerely hope those that are unemployed and giving an honest effort to find a job do so. And lastly, none of this, none of it had or has anything to do with Trump being president or even Obama for that matter. Let me get this straight you praise Trump for lowering the unemployment rate from around 4.7 to 4.1 and ignore that Obama lowered it from over 10% to around 5% before you even lost your job a couple of years ago? Otay Some of you have no clue what it was like over the last 40 years with the constant corporate cutbacks and offshoring done in the 70's 80's and 90's. And No Crap! It's hard work to change careers and find work. We've all had to do it and many have had to move multiple times different states, and yeah, it sucks. But to throw praise on Trump for a less than a 1% change in unemployment is laughable. Go away with that crap. I guess you completely missed this entire part of his comment And lastly, none of this, none of it had or has anything to do with Trump being president or even Obama for that matter. TDS in full view, sheesh
Last edited by willitevachange; 01/11/18 11:03 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,988
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,988 |
Yeah I did  sorry ...i fixed it
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 25,823
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 25,823 |
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,988
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,988 |
Yeah I jumped in it. Have your laugh.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 25,823
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 25,823 |
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188 |
Its all good bro .. your being a wee bit harsh ... Its not like he MISSPELLED words or was grammatically incorrect ....  ...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 52,480
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 52,480 |
funny how PS can admit when he's wrong, while you and Diam continue on saying wrong stuff in every thread.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
- Theodore Roosevelt
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,988
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,988 |
Let em have their laugh. Having a bit of class isn't for everyone.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 8,974
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 8,974 |
Let em have their laugh. Having a bit of class isn't for everyone. and constantly demeaning someone for a typo or misspelling is class???
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,988
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,988 |
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 25,823
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 25,823 |
Its all good bro .. your being a wee bit harsh ... Its not like he MISSPELLED words or was grammatically incorrect .... ... He has given me 1000 of those ROFLMAO's over the last year and now the shoe is on the other foot. Nobody complained that He was harsh. So, Perfect....
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 30,826
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 30,826 |
i think thats still occuring. It's still occurring. I don't know exactly what vers means by "back in the day" - time wise. That's why, in the other thread that had this mentioned, I stated something to the effect of "That's great news. IF it's true. I don't trust unemployment numbers from the gov't."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,988
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,988 |
Trump lowers the unemployment rate by a few tenths. Hooray for the golden dome. Thanks Don!
Obama lowers unemployment from 10% to 5%. "Those numbers are skewed." Otay.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 25,823
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 25,823 |
Obama took thousands out of my pocket while Trump is filling my pockets with cash. End of the story.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,399
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,399 |
Trump lowers the unemployment rate by a few tenths. Hooray for the golden dome. Thanks Don!
Obama lowers unemployment from 10% to 5%. "Those numbers are skewed." Otay. When Obama took office the unemployment rate was 7.9%... So he doesn't get to own the unemployment rate until it peaks and starts back down? And I will say this (and for the record, no President "owns" the unemployment rate, there are a lot of influencing factors outside of the President's control)... but it's like weight loss.. losing the last 5 pounds is significantly harder than losing the first 20...
yebat' Putin
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,988
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,988 |
When Obama took office the unemployment rate was 7.9%
For Adult women. In January, 2010 the unemployment rates for most major worker groups—adult men (10.0 percent), teenagers (26.4 percent), blacks (16.5 percent), and Hispanics (12.6 percent)—showed little change. The jobless rate for adult women fell to 7.9 percent, and the rate for whites declined to 8.7 percent. https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2010/ted_20100217.htm
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 30,826
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 30,826 |
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,399
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,399 |
When Obama took office the unemployment rate was 7.9%
For Adult women. In January, 2010 the unemployment rates for most major worker groups—adult men (10.0 percent), teenagers (26.4 percent), blacks (16.5 percent), and Hispanics (12.6 percent)—showed little change. The jobless rate for adult women fell to 7.9 percent, and the rate for whites declined to 8.7 percent. https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2010/ted_20100217.htm Obama took office in January 2009...
yebat' Putin
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,988
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,988 |
Yippeee! Trump shaved less than a % off unemployment. Our hero! Obama reduces it by 5% and it's a mirage.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188 |
Obama took thousands out of my pocket while Trump is filling my pockets with cash. End of the story. Damm bro ... If thats the case ... u must actually HAVE A JOB ... Good for U ..
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 8,974
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 8,974 |
When Obama took office the unemployment rate was 7.9%
For Adult women. In January, 2010 the unemployment rates for most major worker groups—adult men (10.0 percent), teenagers (26.4 percent), blacks (16.5 percent), and Hispanics (12.6 percent)—showed little change. The jobless rate for adult women fell to 7.9 percent, and the rate for whites declined to 8.7 percent. https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2010/ted_20100217.htm Obama took office in January 2009... haha, so first it was lowered form 10% to 5% with no distinction, then you called him out on it, and it went "to adult women, in 2010"
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 25,823
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 25,823 |
Obama took thousands out of my pocket while Trump is filling my pockets with cash. End of the story. Damm bro ... If thats the case ... u must actually HAVE A JOB ... Good for U .. Having Trump as President and the Republicans running things is paying like a job!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,399
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,399 |
Yippeee! Trump shaved less than a % off unemployment. Our hero! Obama reduces it by 5% and it's a mirage. You really have no concept of math do you?
yebat' Putin
|
|
|
DawgTalkers.net
Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus Black unemployment 6.8% . Thank
you Trump
|
|
