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Darrell Bevell was just canned by the Seahawks yesterday. It'll be interesting to see if he is a candidate for our OC. He's been great overall in Seattle the last 6 years (I think it is 6), and he's the fall guy for their offensive woes this year. Frankly, it is Schneider and Carroll's fault for having a terrible OL again, and no running game again - but maybe we can be the beneficiary of it.
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Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Hue Jackson is really going to worm his way out of hiring an offensive coordinator, isn't he?
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Huh? He just interviewed an OC. If he's not going to hire why conduct interviews? Doesn't make sense.
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Huh? He just interviewed an OC. If he's not going to hire why conduct interviews? Doesn't make sense. It's impossible for him to believe anyone could do it better than he can. But he's forced to conduct the interviews. Now that he's hired Zampeze he may be hoping no one will notice he never actually hired one.
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Huh? He just interviewed an OC. If he's not going to hire why conduct interviews? Doesn't make sense. It's impossible for him to believe anyone could do it better than he can. But he's forced to conduct the interviews. Now that he's hired Zampeze he may be hoping no one will notice he never actually hired one. Also, if someone else can call plays, they can replace him mid-season.
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But did Hue actually say that he's not bringing in an OC or is it Mary Kay speculation?
Because the fact that they've conducted an interview speaks to the notion that he is looking to bring in an OC despite what Mary Kay is saying.
I looked at her timeline and I don't see where she even acknowledged the fact that Ryan interviewed for the OC spot.
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But did Hue actually say that he's not bringing in an OC or is it Mary Kay speculation?
Because the fact that they've conducted an interview speaks to the notion that he is looking to bring in an OC despite what Mary Kay is saying. There are some who would say that Mary Kay Cabot saying something is the same thing as Hue Jackson saying something. The timing of MKC's comments are what is telling. The day after the Sean Ryan interview? Either way, I am hopeful that Hue Jackson will hire an offensive coordinator. But I don't think it is likely given who were are talking about.
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My guess it would be what Hue has told her privately. She did just advocate that the organization should fire Depodesta on the Ken Carman show this morning. That's what I've read on twitter at least.
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Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Hue Jackson is really going to worm his way out of hiring an offensive coordinator, isn't he? Worm his way out of it? It sounds to me like Haslam has given him the right to choose whether to hire an OC or not. But hey, what you posted makes for a good sound bite I guess. lmao
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Hiring an OC should be Hue Jackson call. If he is being "forced" to interview people, that's not good, regardless if you like what Hue has done or hated it. This is his offensive, his coaching preferences. These decisions should be his, not anyone else's.
I'm not saying you are alluding to this, but just my two cents.
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You guys tell me isn't she wrong a lot for someone who is as plugged in to Berea/Hue as some are saying?
Isn't it possible she's wrong?
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Hiring an OC should be Hue Jackson call. Yes, it should be so. However, it seems (if an OC is not hired) that Hue is bucking Dorsey's wishes. Are they really on the same page? They'd better be...
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Yes, it should be so. However, it seems (if an OC is not hired) that Hue is bucking Dorsey's wishes. So, I haven't followed all of Dorsey's comments, and if I commented on it already, I've forgotten. Did Dorsey say he wanted Hue to hire an OC? If so, that's an ill-advised comment by Dorsey (he's already done that, though) and he shouldn't be telling Hue who to hire on his staff. IF he did and Hue is now fighting it, that's also a bad sign for the future, potentially.
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Did Dorsey say he wanted Hue to hire an OC?
Yes, he did...
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Did Dorsey say he wanted Hue to hire an OC?
Yes, he did... I looked quickly but didn't see anything referencing that, even simply sources saying Dorsey wants Hue to hire an OC.
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Posted by Mike Florio on January 3, 2018, 7:59 AM EST
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Browns coach Hue Jackson had an offensive coordinator during the 2016 season. Jackson didn’t have an offensive coordinator during the 2017 season.
After the Browns hired G.M. John Dorsey, a report emerged that Jackson will hire an offensive coordinator for 2018. Over the weekend, a report emerged that Dorsey would be hiring the offensive coordinator.
On Monday, Jackson was asked about the report that Dorsey would be hiring the offensive coordinator.
“I really appreciate John’s expertise,” Jackson said. “He has seen a lot of different ways to do things, and I will lean on him for things, but I don’t think John is making a decision on if we are going to have a coordinator or not.”
Jackson also was asked whether hiring an offensive coordinator falls within the responsibility of the coach.
“I would think so, thank you,” Jackson said with a laugh.
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Posted by Mike Florio on January 3, 2018, 7:59 AM EST
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Browns coach Hue Jackson had an offensive coordinator during the 2016 season. Jackson didn’t have an offensive coordinator during the 2017 season.
After the Browns hired G.M. John Dorsey, a report emerged that Jackson will hire an offensive coordinator for 2018. Over the weekend, a report emerged that Dorsey would be hiring the offensive coordinator.
On Monday, Jackson was asked about the report that Dorsey would be hiring the offensive coordinator.
“I really appreciate John’s expertise,” Jackson said. “He has seen a lot of different ways to do things, and I will lean on him for things, but I don’t think John is making a decision on if we are going to have a coordinator or not.”
Jackson also was asked whether hiring an offensive coordinator falls within the responsibility of the coach.
“I would think so, thank you,” Jackson said with a laugh. Ok, thanks. This is beginning to jog the memory.
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How many teams are still in the playoffs..8?
Some of the best offensive coaching talent might still be available.
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How many teams are still in the playoffs..8?
Some of the best offensive coaching talent might still be available. That could absolutely be the case....coaches on the radar not yet given permission to interview because they're still in the playoffs.
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How many teams are still in the playoffs..8?
Some of the best offensive coaching talent might still be available. That could absolutely be the case....coaches on the radar not yet given permission to interview because they're still in the playoffs. Yes, that is a possibility...
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Well we all know we can trust every "report" that has no direct quote from anyone. I mean if it's what people wish to believe, it must be gospel, right?
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Well we all know we can trust every "report" that has no direct quote from anyone. I mean if it's what people wish to believe, it must be gospel, right? Who was the source behind Trump's most recent comments?
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Well we all know we can trust every "report" that has no direct quote from anyone. I mean if it's what people wish to believe, it must be gospel, right? Who was the source behind Trump's most recent comments? There's been so many reports from so many sources almost daily, it's kind of hard to pin down which one you are speaking of. But then this isn't the political forum and that BS really doesn't belong here.
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Well we all know we can trust every "report" that has no direct quote from anyone. I mean if it's what people wish to believe, it must be gospel, right? Who was the source behind Trump's most recent comments? There's been so many reports from so many sources almost daily, it's kind of hard to pin down which one you are speaking of. But then this isn't the political forum and that BS really doesn't belong here. The source was anonymous. That was my point. You seem to believe many of the things said by anonymous sources in the part of that world, but not in football. Why is that?
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Hiring an OC should be Hue Jackson call. Yes, it should be so. However, it seems (if an OC is not hired) that Hue is bucking Dorsey's wishes. Are they really on the same page? They'd better be... Should hiring a HC be the GMs call as well?
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Should hiring a HC be the GMs call as well?
Myself, I see this 2018 season as a "show me" year for Hue..he has to produce something.
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The source was anonymous. That was my point. You seem to believe many of the things said by anonymous sources in the part of that world, but not in football. Why is that?
No, you're trying to interject politics into the football forum. I'll just answer you by saying this. If every day we had several sources that indicated all of the wrongdoing by Hue, you may have a point. If he was daily obviously proven to be lying over and over again, you may have a point. But that is only happening to one of the two people you brought up. I refuse to reply to any more political questions and suggestions in pure football. This is the wrong forum for it. You'll turn this place into a feces hole.
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I don't want to interject politics into this forum (I would guess we would agree on nearly everything going on in politics). I just noticed that you trust anonymous sources sometimes, but not others. The answer you gave is good enough for me.
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Should hiring a HC be the GMs call as well?
Myself, I see this 2018 season as a "show me" year for Hue..he has to produce something.
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I was being facetious more than anything. I don't know what his plans are or who, if anyone we'll end up with, I would hope he'd be working to make that decision soon. There are other fish to fry.
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Myself, I see this 2018 season as a "show me" year for Hue..he has to produce something.
Hue is going to be given further resources (including a capable QB if reports are accurate). Yes, he will have to produce...and sooner rather than later.
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During an appearance on the Bull & Fox Show on 92.3 The Fan, Mary Kay Cabot revealed that an offer to be the new Cleveland Browns offensive coordinator was not extended to Houston Texans quarterbacks coach Sean Ryan following his interview Wednesday.
Cabot said that Jackson was not willing to hand over play-calling duties to Ryan, which was a pre-requisite for him leaving his job and head coach Bill O'Brien. If the head coach is going to relinquish his play-calling duties, he wants it to go to an experienced play-caller. Why would an experienced, coveted play-caller take the Browns job right now? There are now reports that Jackson is evaluating whether or not he wants to hire an offensive coordinator. There have not been any other candidates mentioned in connection with the vacancy.
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I don't think Hue Jackson needs to give up play calling responsibility (I said this several times during the season). But if he can't self-evaluate and hire an offensive coordinator to help take some of the load off himself, after going 0-16, then there are bigger problems to come.
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Sounds like it's Hue's show and that he is putting it all on the line...and himself. Hope you're right, Hue.
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I don't think Hue Jackson needs to give up play calling responsibility (I said this several times during the season). But if he can't self-evaluate and hire an offensive coordinator to help take some of the load off himself, after going 0-16, then there are bigger problems to come. The proof is in the pudding as evidenced by an obscene amount of assistant coaching turnover in just two years.
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You would think Hue's ego would have taken enough of a beating the last 2 years, but I see that hasn't happened.
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Should hiring a HC be the GMs call as well?
Myself, I see this 2018 season as a "show me" year for Hue..he has to produce something.
We had 0 wins last season and we are going to have some new offensive coaches and offensive players at key positions who might be rookies.
Trying to be realistic about the circumstances might be tough for some..but hopefully the team has enough success of the field to give fans a feeling that we are heading in the right direction.
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