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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42671153

Also, another politician confirmed what trump said from senator graham, who also didn’t deny that trump said these things.

And the fact that you are supporting this “I do not recall” nonsense is pathetic.

That isn’t close to being a denial. It’s a cheap way to deflect without getting caught up. Just claim you don’t remember what was being said, and you’re good to go.

Come now, there is a big difference between "I do not recall"
and what they said, "they could not recall the President using the language."

And even if he did say it, it was not racist like you and the National Media have made it out to be.

All this outrage, I don't recall anyone complaining when Obama called Libya a crap show.

Politics
FLASHBACK: That Time Obama Called Libya A ‘Crap Show’


Benny Johnson
Reporter At Large


2:46 PM 01/12/2018


Following President Trump’s Thursday comments, it’s worth noting that former President Obama called the African country of Libya a “crap show” just two years ago.
The comments were recorded in an interview with The Atlantic. The wide-ranging interview was based on Obama’s foreign policy over his eight years in office. During one portion of the interview, Obama said described Libya as a “mess” to the interviewer but behind closed doors called the country a “crap show.”


According to the Atlantic:


“So we actually executed this plan as well as I could have expected: We got a UN mandate, we built a coalition, it cost us $1 billion — which, when it comes to military operations, is very cheap. We averted large-scale civilian casualties, we prevented what almost surely would have been a prolonged and bloody civil conflict. And despite all that, Libya is a mess. Mess is the president’s diplomatic term; privately, he calls Libya a “crap show,” in part because it’s subsequently become an ISIS haven — one that he has already targeted with air strikes. It became a crap show, Obama believes, for reasons that had less to do with American incompetence than with the passivity of America’s allies and with the obdurate power of tribalism.

The comments received little coverage when made public at the end of Obama’s term.
Food for thought.



http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/12/flashback-that-time-obama-called-libya-a-st-show/

No, it isn’t.

They clearly dodged the question, especially waiting so long to get gen answer in the first place. It was a cheap cop out and you know it. It’s not even a denial.

Doesn't matter anyway, even if he did say it, it was not racist like you and the National Media have made it out to be.

Report: Trump lawyer brokered $130,000 payment to porn star

https://www.yahoo.com/news/report-trump-...--politics.html

This was reported by the Wall Street journal.

Yes it is.

Everything is about race to a lot of you. Do you ever consider that since you see racism in everything, that you might actually be the racists?

These 'hole' countries have been hole countries for generations. It has to do with who's running then, not who lives there.

your comment is proof you either are a joke, or don't even know the definition of a racist.

do i need to post the definition of a racist? i've done this multiple times already, but you conservatives seem unable to learn basic concepts.

Why do the political correct police get to define racism?

the book definition defines racism. not the PC police, or whatever made up nonsense you're trying to push.

What book is that?

Not really.
We went out.... to a diner.
It's where we had our dinner.

I'll give you the same advice My Pops gave me when I was about 14 or so:
"The first step to being a successful smartass is actually being smart."

I can't wait to see what you might write, once you've left Square One.

I can do this all day, and I can do this every time.

___________________________

Save yourself the public humiliation, and just stop talking to me or about me. If you persist, I will continue to expose your shortcomings by verbally de-pantsing you every time my name crosses your lips.

Every.
Single.
Time.

I warned you about this last week.
I'm done soft-peddling yer iggernant ass.

Every time, DIAM.
Trust. Believe.

the webster dictionary.

Definition of racism

1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 a : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles
b : a political or social system founded on racism
3 : racial prejudice or discrimination

racist
NOUN
A person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/racist

Speaking of jokes and racists, you got a mirror?

I know the definition. I've seen it in action. I don't associate with racist or people who label everyone that disagrees with them a racist. This board is about as close as I get to them.

A higher authority than Webster's dictionary says in 1 John 3:15 "Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer; and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

Now that is how to best define racism. In God's eyes hate is the same as murder.

so where's your proof that i'm a racist.

because if you actually knew the definition, then you wouldn't make such ridiculous comments.

but there's plenty of evidence to show Trump is a racist. from this, to him thinking haitians have aids and all nigerians live in huts, to him getting sued for not renting to blacks, to the nonsense he pulled during charlottesville.

so either you're ignorant to the world around you, or you actually believe and support his views.

lets hope for your sake you're just ignorant.

sorry, but go use that for someone who is christian or religious.

i'm not, so please don't use fairy tales as evidence of anything. i presented the definition of what racism and a racist is. stick to that.

Because people from black and brown countries can't be educated?

Obama made almost the same comment 2 years ago and no one cared. The media just blows everything Trump does or says out of proportion.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/12/flashback-that-time-obama-called-libya-a-st-show/

Last week it was a book written with an opinion and they reported it like it was news. First it was Russia collusion, then came obstruction of justice. Throw is Charlottesville, and other race bating attempts.


The destroy Trump media will just throw everything against the wall hoping for something to stick. Be a different controversy they drum up next week.

'Thanks, but no thanks' - Norwegians reject Trump's immigration offer

https://www.yahoo.com/news/thanks-no-tha...-142638563.html

OSLO (Reuters) - Many Norwegians rejected on Friday a suggestion by U.S. President Donald Trump that they would be more welcome to move to the United States than immigrants from "shithole countries" such as Haiti or African nations.

The Nordic country, one of the richest in the world by GDP per capita, was last year named the happiest nation on the planet and is known for a cradle-to-grave welfare state funded in part by large reserves of oil and natural gas.

Trump mentioned Norway in derogatory comments about other countries of migration as U.S. senators briefed him on Thursday on a newly drafted bipartisan immigration bill, according to two sources who asked not to be identified.

One of the sources who was briefed on the conversation quoted him as saying: "Why do we want all these people from Africa here? They're shithole countries ... We should have more people from Norway."

In one of several Twitter posts on Friday, Trump defended his stance on a bipartisan Senate immigration deal, but denied using the vulgar language ascribed to him.

"The language used by me at the DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals) meeting was tough, but this was not the language used," he said. He also later denied using derogatory language about Haitians.

"On behalf of Norway: Thanks, but no thanks," tweeted Torbjoern Saetre, a politician representing Norway's Conservative Party in a municipality near Oslo.

Others condemned the U.S. president's comments as inappropriate or racist.

"We are not coming. Cheers from Norway," one woman wrote.

While hundreds of thousands of Norwegians emigrated to the U.S. in the 19th century, just 502 out of a population of 5.3 million people moved there in 2016, down 59 from the previous year, according to Statistics Norway.

"Will there be more now?" the statistics agency asked in a tweet.

Government officials, seeking to deflect attention, turned down a chance to comment. "We respectfully decline the opportunity," one government official said when contacted by Reuters.

The reference to Norway may have been prompted by Prime Minister Erna Solberg who visited the White House on Wednesday when the president praised Norway for running a trade deficit with the United States and for buying U.S. military equipment.

Christian Christensen, an American professor of journalism at Stockholm University in neighboring Sweden, tweeted:

"Of course people from #Norway would love to move to a country where people are far more likely to be shot, live in poverty, get no healthcare because they're poor, get no paid parental leave or subsidized daycare and see fewer women in political power. #Shithole"

Before the "shithole" controversy, former Swedish Prime Minister Carl Bildt tweeted that, judging by Solberg's visit, "keys to success with Trump is personal charm, a solid trade deficit with the U.S. and buying tons of U.S. military hardware."

Solberg, whose office also declined to comment on Trump's remarks, is expected to announce soon an expansion of her cabinet to include Norway's Liberal Party, a centrist group that favors strong environmental policies and more immigration.

"The first point of order in the new government declaration: Norway will still not be a shithole country," tweeted Kjetil Alstadheim, the political editor of financial daily Dagens Naeringsliv.

I think Trump is from the Bronx or Queens. Everybody knows those people don't have a filter on their mouths. A lot of them are aggressive and loud. No couth. You either accept them or you don't. As long as he keeps making America Great I'll accept him.
The Media is a joke. I know you all saw them tearing their hair because he called some s hole a s hole. New Yorkers like to bust your( censor ) . Snowflakes need to get over themselves.

From the liberal killer in 1965:

“First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same,” he pledged during an address. We’ll get back to how well that promise aged in a moment.
“Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia,” Ted Kennedy declared.

Must be like looking into a mirror.

Here it is in nice orange print for 40, diam and all the others that are supporting Trump and the GOP in trying to hide the truth here;

1) Trump has repeatedly shown that he has zero class, ZERO CLASS.

2) Trump has repeatedly shown that he doesn't think before he speaks, he simply blurts out whatever thought he is capable of forming at the moment. He has no filter, NO FILTER.

3) Trump has shown on numerous occasions that at a minimum he comes across as racists. Most Americans believe he is racist, HE'S RACIST.

4) Trump's mental processes are from a bygone era. He thinks like men from the 50s-60s-70s on social issues including women's rights, racism, acceptance of others not like him and his... If he was not a billionaire and now President; he would be considered a low character scumbag by everyone he interacted with socially that is not a low character scumbag too. A LOW CHARACTER SCUMBAG.

I won't go into his constant lying, womanizing, cheating, alleged criminal activity, proven criminal activity, low IQ, childlike temperament and ridiculous self esteem issues or total lack of most other redeeming qualities; BUT the 4 things I've listed can not be denied by anyone anymore.

So if you are still trying to defend Trump for having ZERO CLASS, having NO FILTER, being RACIST, or being A LOW CHARACTER SCUMBAG; then you yourself are either very GULLIBLE, very STUPID, a social PARIAH, or a ZERO CLASS - NO FILTER - RACIST - LOW CHARACTER SCUMBAG YOURSELF!

The world is watching, not just dawgtalkers. It's time to decide if you will put country over politics or have any kind of dignity at all and stop defending this man. I don't care enough about any of you to lose any sleep over your stupidity. So you don't get to blow off my post with some liberal this or that tears thing, because the truth does not go away. The man in the mirror is the one who has to buy your BS excuses now.

Let's refute.



Orange print? Is that a Trump slight? Orange is one of my favorite colors.



So? Better than the class of people who constantly lie to us and pass laws that are "best for us" even when we don't want them. I like the fact he has a backbone unlike other presidents and politicians of recent history.


Still far superior to the politician that speaks for 30 minutes and doesn't say a thing. I know exactly what this president is thinking and doing, because he tells us.



Ever hear the statement, "When all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail"? When all you have is race baiting, everyone you disagree with looks like a racist.



Bring on Logan's Run everybody. Everyone over 40 must be recycled!! Maybe the problem for the past 20 years is that we let the young and inexperienced shape our views of the world. The Golum diplomacy (we be nice to them if they be nice to us) of yesterday is dead, because people take advantage of you when you're a milquetoast.

Maybe you would have liked a high class scumbag like hitlery. She would have stood up there and acted presidential while she sold the country out from under you for her own profit, or the coughing fits started, and she fell down from being drunk.

Yes, the world is watching, and they don't like that we've found our bearing again, and will stay on top a while longer.

There are area's inside the good old USA that are crapholes. IMO people are just to thin skinned these days.

But but the President used the Poopy word!

Not seeing a refute, just acknowledgement and blinders.

Utterly embarrassing, revolting, divisive and completely racist comments by Trump. But, I am not surprised because that is who he is. Nor am I surprised to see his supporters defending him and so few spineless, moral less Republican congressmen speak out against him.

Your boy took an inch and ran a mile, getting all that free press coverage. You have taken an immigration issue about education and skills and spun it into Racism.
You have strengthened the anti DACA folks who say kick them out.

Now this...

Trump criticizes Democrats over DACA as bipartisan immigration deal next week seems less likely
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/...ess-likely.html

I don’t believe the Democrats really want to see a deal on DACA. They are all talk and no action. This is the time but, day by day, they are blowing the one great opportunity they have. Too bad!
-President Donald Trump

Key word there is bipartisan.

Looks like trump is he one who doesn’t want to make a smart deal. Cause he’s too busy pandering to the wannabe nazis of America.

A pathological liar whose office's sole legislative accomplishments is a tax bill the country vastly opposes is different how?



The guy who spends the first 3 hours of his day throwing temper tantrums and crying that people are being mean and unfair to him has a backbone?

If Democrats solves anything they’d be irrelevant. They’ve kept the impoverished in their pockets as a voting block since the 60’s.

MLK's Niece: 'Outrageous' That Critics Are 'Unjustly' Calling Trump Racist

The Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s niece ripped accusations that President Trump is a "racist" for speaking in an off-color manner about third world countries.

Illinois Democratic Sen. Richard Durbin claimed Trump referred to Haiti and the African continent as a "s**thole," prompting critics to label the president a racist.

Dr. Alveda King said Saturday on "Fox & Friends" such claims about Trump are "outrageous."

She said that Trump has done excellent work in highlighting the important accomplishments of her uncle, including officially declaring his Georgia birthplace a national historic park.

"Racism is just a word that is being bandied about and thrown... at the president unjustly," she said. "President Trump is not a racist."

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/01/13/al...tin-luther-king

He feels sorry for me.... ...

Ah, I love seeing people stoopt this level. You do realize there's a difference between being PC and acting like a jack wad, right?

It's funny how you uphold the president saying things you wouldn't want your small children repeating.

I remember a time not so long ago when a president could be held in high regard. When we actually told our children, "Hey, you could grow up to be president." Now? We may have come to the point that when people repeat what our president said, we may need our small children to leave the room.

And people post here making excuses why it's okay for the president to be talking like a bar room drunk. How far the GOP has fallen in such a short period of time.

Making excuses for a habitual liar and oaf they put in the oval office while trying to claim to be the party of family values and the religious right. I wonder how many Hail Mary's that takes?

I took the time to re-read this post earlier this morning.

I read lots of what-abouts, equivalences and turnabout rhetorical questions. You did a masterful job of parsing my post line-by-line, which I could follow into the weeds.

In all of that, you didn't answer the one- the one and only question I asked you:

What prompts you to defend this man? Not just this time, but almost every time? This blustery, low-info blowhard whom you and I would probably avoid at backyard barbecue or tailgate? This Ƌ00d who shows a tenth of your character and class?

Can you give me a direct answer to a direct question?

Thanks in advance.

You mean the guy that was ready to sign a clean bill on DACA before his handlers had to explain to him what that actually meant?

I think we should believe that guy. I mean he was ready to sign a clean bill on DACA and then work on a comprehensive immigration deal. Of course once someone explained to the simpleton what that meant, because he obviously didn't know, your commander in tweet changed his mind. You know, like two seconds later?

Who knows what the hell he'll think about it tomorrow. lmao