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Thanks for that reply, I just wish someone from the Browns specifically would at least give us an idea as what’s going on.


Frustrated to say the least......

Sales are up this year.

I blew that picture up as big as my phone would allow and I didn’t see any answers in there.....lol

Then you've seen the truth my friend. Because there aren't any answers. Just a bunch of blow hards trying to convince folks their opinion is gospel.

No rhyme or reason to what's going on. If Hue doesn't get an OC then he's on a shorter leash than a bad dog. I think Dorsey et al are letting him do this thing, post power struggle win, and see how it pans out.

Everyone new gets a year free. Maybe. Or not.

Continuity on the coaching side is paramount otherwise we ship our next Sheard, Gabriel or TJ Ward. Or Craig Robertson.

We've had good enough players at times. We haven't had good enough leadership or direction. That's my view as a supporter of the Browns.

Not a fan of the Alfalfa look?

I was thinking Moe Howard.

That's the problem with power struggles, as soon as it's over, everyone realizes it was always about the power. Hue is probably on a shorter leash now than if he'd stayed unified with the FO and simply said, We know it's bad. We're working to fix it. We always knew it would be a painful, time consuming process, we're just not there yet." They would probably have gotten next year to prove their worth. Now, no matter what he says about working lock-step with Dorsey, if he doesn't start winning immediately he'll learn exactly how short the leash is.

Ultimately, in power swaps like these, the team suffers because as you point out, some of the babies get thrown out with the bathwater, we end up starting all over again with a new HC coach and two new systems to learn, and a bunch of holes to fill on offense and defense.

Bottom line, I hope Hue starts winning. Then everyone is happy and there's no more discussion about FO -vs- Hue, and so on because we're basking in the glory of a talent laden, well led team with promise for the future.

His eyes make him look like he is about to kill someone .... and do so quite happily.

I was thinking of Moe myself.

That's one thing you'll rarely ever get from a corporation. An explanation for their structure or why they hire and fire people. The one thing anyone with common sense should take away from it is that corporations don't take these measures without reasons. They don't just throw darts at a dart board to see who remains and who leaves.

There were almost two years of decisions and moves made to base those decisions on.

https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/952288158938312704

The replies to this Tweet do not inspire confidence.

(Brock Olivo worked under Dave Toub in Kansas City, the same position Chris Tabor had under Toub in Chicago.)

Broncos fans were absolutely finished with Olivo after a 41-16 loss to the Patriots in November. That game saw the Broncos:

Muff a punt return (Patriots recovered)
Allow a 103-yard kickoff return for a touchdown
Get a punt blocked by the Patriots
Have 12 men on the field during a 4th-and-5, allowing New England to have an automatic first down

Boy, and I didn’t think anyone could out-do Tabor. Sign him up!

https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2018/1/13/...dinator-vacancy

They were discussing the hire on 92.3 FM the Fan yesterday.

Report: A "Near Mutiny" Forced Marvin Lewis to Fire Offensive Coordinator Ken Zamepese

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/09/16/cincinnati-bengals-marvin-lewis-ken-zampese-fired-mutiny

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Poll: Did Bengals make the right call firing Ken Zampese?

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2017/9/15/16316336/poll-bengals-right-call-firing-ken-zampese

86% - yes.

P.S. I certainly hope he does better here as QB's coach.

Was he w/the Bengals when Hue was there? If so, what was his job title?

I don't know. You know I ain't Mr. Football! But why did Hue fire David Lee?

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Old article:

QB coach says Kizer's not ready and "he knows it"

https://scout.com/nfl/browns/Article/QB-...nd-he-106096202

If David Lee knew ^that^ Hue probably should have kept him, not fired him.

Somebody had to be held accountable for the last 2 seasons.

Last season we gutted the D.

This year we fired Brown and all the offensive coaches under Hue.

If Brown really was the problem, why fire all the assistant coaches? If Hues claim we don't have any players to work with is accurate, did the assistant coaches not have the same players to work with as Hue?

Something is amiss.

You make good points but going into 2018, Hue is our coach. This marriage between our new front office and Hue was arrainged by Haslam. Dorsey and co. are not used to losing and don't expect to. I am sure Hue knows that and he will feel the pressure to win next year. If not he will not be here for 2019. I am pulling for Hue because I am a Browns fan 1st. Personally I couldn't care less who our coach is if we are winners.

Patricia to the Lions confirmed

And apparently McDaniels has Indy, if he wants it. I wonder if there will be a mass exodus in NE after this season. Tons of coaches are bailing. Maybe this whole behind the scenes stuff between Kraft, BB, and Brady has some legs?

I been wondering that since the story came out ....

Is it just time for these guys to spread their wings or do they know sumptin only them and BB know ....

Hmmmmmmmmm ... it’s certainly a good question ....

It'll be interesting to see Josh McDaniels and Matt Patricia fight for assistants.

My guess is that Greg Schiano ends up in New England, Detroit, or Indianapolis.

The Buffalo Bills have hired Alabama OC Brian Daboll to serve in the same capacity.

Source: ESPN.com Jan 14 - 5:55 PM
http://www.rotoworld.com/sports/nfl/football?r=1

Patricia's D was 29th in the NFL this year. 32nd against the pass. Blah

I think McDaniels is a bright mind and I know him through his father, who was a friend of mine. His dad coached at Canton McKinley and was an excellent coach. I really like the younger McDaniel's schemes and route trees. The key will be if he can make the right roster decisions. I thought he did a good job of coaching in Denver, but made some questionable roster decisions.

Per sources, Lions have informed other candidates they’ve been eliminated from the search, moving forward with the expectation Matt Patricia will be their head coach when the Patriots season ends. So that job is officially off the board.
https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/952735118535389185

The St. Paul Pioneer Press reports the Giants' head-coaching job vacancy has been narrowed to Vikings OC Pat Shurmur and Patriots OC Josh McDaniels.

The NFL's worst-kept secret is that McDaniels will be the Colts' next head coach, so this would indicate Shurmur is now the favorite to succeed Ben McAdoo. Shurmur has interviewed with the Giants, Lions, Cardinals, and Bears. Chicago (Matt Nagy) and Detroit (Matt Patricia) have their new coaches in place, while the Cardinals and Giants' searches remain open. Should Shurmur end up choosing Arizona, the G-Men could turn to Panthers DC Steve Wilks.

Related: Giants
Source: St. Paul Pioneer Press Jan 15 - 12:24 AM

http://www.rotoworld.com/sports/nfl/football?r=1

It's going to be fascinating seeing what happens with New England. They'll likely be gutted of coaches and have to come back with a whole new look.

It's certainly not something they've never experienced, but I'm not sure if they've ever lost so many at once. Assuming, of course, Patricia and McDaniels are out, and they do raid the Patriots ranks for assistants.

I wouldn't bet against Brady and Belichick, but that dynasty may certainly be coming to an end.

Perfect time for Bill to bow out.
He may seeit as a challenge to keep it going though.

It is coming to an end. Not because of the Coaching Exodus.

They were FOOLS for trading Garoppolo. FOOLS.

Brady is ONE hit from being done for good. I don't care what he eats all week, he rips an Achilles or ACL and he will not come back at that age.

New England has NO QB going forward. NONE. And that's great news for us.

This was the point in time pull a Kosar on Brady. They should have kept Garoppolo, signed him to the long term Contract and traded or released Brady. He AIN'T playing 3 more years.

They screwed themselves.

I'm fascinated by the rumors that Belichick wanted to trade Brady and move forward with Garappolo, but Kraft wouldn't let him.

I said last offseason, when there were rumors the Browns would consider parting with three first round selections, that I didn't want any part of it. If Belichick was going to take a 40 year old over a 26 year old, no matter how great the 40 year old is, then I didn't want part of it. Brady is the greatest of all time, but you don't take 3/4 years over 12/15 years.

There is part of me that wonders if this is all reactionary.

- Bill is told no, he loses what was his plan for the future.
- Bill trades away Jimmy and Jacoby for peanuts.
- Bill tells his coaches that now is a time to go take head coaching gigs.
- Bill and Brady go win this Superbowl, ride off in to the sunset.
- Kraft is left wondering what in the heck just happened to his dynasty.

Titans, Mike Mularkey mutually agree to part ways

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22108396/tennessee-titans-mike-mularkey-mutually-agree-part-ways

Man, they did him dirty.

Man, that is some BS!!! That team doesn't have a lot of talent. You watch them on TV and they do the starting lineups thing w/the dude's pics at the beginning of the game and you keep saying: "Who?" "Who?" Yet somehow, Mularkey got that team to the playoffs. They played hard and overachieved.

I hope the dude gets another job, but bro, lose the mirrored shades. LOL

Another one of those forced marriages between the GM and HC not working out.......and the Titans went to the playoffs.

It was just reported they were offering him a 2018 extension?

Link

A funny thing happened on the way to the negotiating table...

Terry Robiski made for a bad OC. I can't wait till they get someone who can work with Mariota.

Man, I wish would could complain about how bad our OC is...who helped lead the team to the divionsal round in the playoffs.

If that’s a bad OC, sign me up.

We've done better by him. He was our headcoach at one point!

MKC...is saying he’s an option for our OC,

https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.cl...rowns_radar.amp


As is Rappaport....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.c...y-113734758/Amp

I don't know how to feel about this, on one hand we'd run the ball more, on the other hand our offense would still be stuck in the 90's.

Sign me up!!!!!!!