DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Browns hire Todd Haley as offensive coordinator

Mike Silver:



https://twitter.com/MikeSilver/status/955568856138858496

Play calling:



https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/955561832894300161

The last question here is the most important.

Are we running Hue's offense, Todd's offense or a combination because they are very different systems.

Great. At least we know we will run the ball occasionally.

Ideally it's a little bit of both.

This is a good move. Anything to take some of the workload off of Hue Jackson is good.

He might be our coach in 2019

offensive ranking since 2012 (overall):

2012: 21st
2013: 20th
2014: 2nd
2015: 3rd
2016: 7th
2017: 3rd

Those are some awesome numbers by Haley...step in the right direction

Good Move ... All These Hires FO and Coaches Will Bring FA That Played For Them ... Just Sayin'

If so, will he call his own plays?

Wow! Not gonna lie, but I had some doubts about Hue being serious about getting an OC, much less ceding playcalling duties. I'm glad the narrative about Hue slithering his way out of giving up playcalling can be put to bed. :-D

Now, on to Todd Haley... I'm curious about his system and his demeanor (the two things that everyone else has been asking about). I'm also trying to connect the dots between Haley, Zampese, and the QB room we're going to have going into next training camp. Are we going to be better able to groom/develop a QB that's sitting on the bench (hopefully Kizer and a rookie)? If we get Rosen, who supposedly asks a ton of questions and pushes his coaches to explain the how's and why's, are we going to have an issue with our offensive coaching staff?

All in all, I'm really happy that we've offloaded some stuff off of Hue's plate.

This is great news!

Isn't Le'Veon Bell a FA?

Hue had to make the call, but I think he was "urged" by Dorsey to make the hire. I don't think Dorsey was going to be happy if Hue selected being O Coordinator again.


Doresy wants to be able to evaluate Hue as a head coach. Not a head coach/ coordinator.

Not sure if this has been mentioned but Haley brings with him intimate knowledge of Ben's weaknesses and the Steelers offense schematic weaknesses.

He also brings his 'book' on the defenses in the conference and around the league.

Exactly.

Also, it's good to note that Hue kept his word. He said if they could get him an experienced OC he would be willing to cede playcalling. These two will either work great together as Hue is great at smoothing things over and Haley will demand greater discipline or they will but heads too much and it falls apart. Based on how Hue gets along with Williams though I think it will be just fine once the dust settles.

One thing for sure, Haley will be gunning for beating the Steelers like no one else after they disrespected him.

We have at least 11 posters that are hoping the team fails this year.

That's freaking awesome!!!

I like this hire a lot. I posted on the day his contract wasn't renewed that he would be an intriguing hire. Solid Offensive numbers and he knows the division intimately. You can guarantee he will have an extra fire in his gut to beat the Steelers.

A couple folks replied saying he "rubs people up the wrong way". Well, so does Greg Williams and maybe so does Hue. They all three have enormous egos. How can they work together? How can they work with Dorsey and his ego? That will be the million dollar question, but I like the hire and think it is a step in the right direction for our offense. Our choice at QB (both Vet and Rookie) just got a little bit more intriguing with the FO, Hue and Haley all chiming in on who to take.

Great leaders are not scared to but heads to lead. In fact great leaders always look for people who are better than themselves to the job they are giving out so they know it's done successfully.

Let them but heads all they want, so long as, they win. Just win man!

I like this move/hire. Haley is good OC.

Hue had more than he could manage on his plate. I think the hiring OC affirms Hue thought this as well.

Going to be three interesting personalities trying to get along between Haley, Gregg and Hue.

I listened to an interview w/Darren Woodson who played under Haley.

He said that Haley was an in your face kinda guy who would let you have it in front of others. He continued by saying that the coaches liked what he had to say but the players did not.

So, I think that perhaps we should not focus on whether the coaches get along or not, but instead on Haley's relationship w/a very young and insecure roster.

whats the "toss players under the bus in front of the media" ratio from haley compared to Hue?

With all the changes in the FO and coaching, this team bears little resemblance to that of the last two seasons. There is room for optimism...

I’m just tickled pink that Hue decided the O was finally worthy of an OC ... now there’s progress for ya ... ....

I don't think either are tossing the players under the bus. It's coach speak. We just have a lot of Sashi fans trying to crucify Hue for doing things like breathing.

When I was talking about Woodson's comments and some others I have read.......they were not talking about his comments to the media........it was during practices and when reviewing video.

I think that is a wrong assumption.

Umm...my guess is Gregg gets in his players face too and many on here were saying how they loved his hire and exactly what we needed to establish a dominant defense. Most players I have heard speak about Williams all seem to be supportive of him and his style.

At the end of the day, as fans none of us have been in a locker room, on a field or coached by Haley so, I think we can give him his fair dues and let him come in and do what he is clearly capable of doing.

ST coach, however....yea, that one worries me simply based on stats and numbers.

They have Hue to be good cop so let Haley be bad cop. I'm fine with that.

I wasn't trying to argue and I am not going to argue. I was relating some information I heard. If you don't want to believe it.....fine.

Is there any other confirmation besides twitter?

I Love this Hire!
Now we can really pound the ball.... well after we get a Pounder ;-)

As we now have the Bengals and Squealers former OC's
is there anyone on the Ravens Coaching Staff/Front Office we can get?

BUT, those numbers were with talent like Big Ben, AB, and Bell...now he has the "mighty" firepower of Kizer & Crowell

Browns hire Todd Haley as offensive coordinator
Updated 8:46 PM; Posted 7:47 PM

By Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The man who helped Ben Roethlisberger dominate the Browns over the past six seasons will now try to turn the tables on the Steelers.

Former Steelers offensive coordinator Todd Haley, who didn't have his contract renewed by the Steelers last week, has been hired by the Browns as the first offensive coordinator under Hue Jackson, a league source told cleveland.com.

Haley, 50, is expected to call plays under Jackson because of his vast experience in that role. He'll also have an opportunity to coach a new rookie quarterback such as Sam Darnold or Josh Rosen, who are candidates for the Browns at No. 1 overall.

Word out of Pittsburgh is that Haley clashed with Roethlisberger, but Big Ben didn't admit to that during a radio interview on Jan. 17th. Instead, he described a positive interaction he had with Haley after the Steelers lost 45-42 to the Jaguars in the divisional playoffs. In that game, Roethlisberger threw for a franchise playoff record 469 yards and five touchdowns.

"We talked and laughed about the season and how proud we were of how we improved as an offense," Roethlisberger said on 97.3 The Fan in Pittsburgh. "To be able to come out as the top three or five offense...just how proud we both were of everything that was accomplished with this offense."

He noted that any disagreements with Haley over the years were no big deal.

"You're always going to have riffs if you will,'' he said. "That's players and coaches, it's not just Coach Haley and I. There's always issues in a competitive field like we have where everyone is trying to win and everybody is trying to be the best they can be."

Jackson and his coaching staff are in Mobile, Ala. for the Senior Bowl, but Haley will not join them there.

The new coordinator goes from a team that's had double-digit victories over the past four seasons and four straight playoff appearances to a club that went 0-16 in 2017 and 1-15 in 2016.

He also switches from an offense that finished eighth in the NFL with 25.4 points per game to one that finished 32nd in the NFL with 14.6 points per game.

Behind a struggling rookie quarterback in DeShone Kizer, the Browns finished near the bottom of the league in several key categories, including interceptions, third-down efficiency and yards per game.

Conversely, Haley, the former head coach of the Chiefs, ran one of the most explosive offenses in the NFL over the past four years.

During that span, Steelers were second in scoring only to the Patriots, and have been in the top 10 in the NFL in scoring in each of those four years, the club's longest such streak since the 1970s.

In 2017, The Steelers finished in the top 10 in several key offensive categories, including total yards (3rd), yards per play (7th), net passing yards per game (third), third down efficiency (2nd), and points per game (8th).

Roethlisberger, Antonio Brown and Le'Veon Bell also consistently finished among the league leaders under Haley.

In 2017, Roethlisberger finished 13th in the NFL with a 93.4 rating, and Bell finished third 1,291 yards. Brown was first in the NFL with 1,533 yards on 101 receptions, and caught 9 TD passes. The Steelers also sent six offensive players to the Pro Bowl in Brown, Roethlisberger, Bell, and offensive linemen Alejandro Villanueva, David DeCastro and Maurkice Pouncey.

In 2016, the Steelers advanced to the AFC Championship Game and sent five offensive players to the Pro Bowl. Bell led the NFL in scrimmage yards per game (157.0). He also became the fastest player in NFL history to reach 3,000 rushing yards and 1,500 receiving yards in his career (38 games).

Haley coached of the Chiefs from 2008 through week 14 of the 2011 season, posting a 19-26 mark. In 2010, he guided the team to the greatest turnaround in franchise history, from 4-12 to 10-6. They also made the playoffs for the first time since 2006.


Haley served as the Cardinals' offensive coordinator in 2007-08, during which the team won the club's first division title since 1975 and advanced to the Super Bowl. Under Haley, the Cardinals were one of the most explosive offenses in the NFL, tying for third in the league with a franchise-record 427 points in 2008. The Cardinals also became the fifth team in NFL history with three receivers recording 1,000 yards in the same season.

From 1999 to 2006, Haley served as receivers coach for the Cowboys, Bears and Jets, making the playoffs with each of those teams.

Haley has received a ringing endorsement from Hall of Fame quarterback Kurt Warner, who tweeted last week "I know if I had anything left in this old body, I would sign up tomorrow to work and play for Todd again.''

Haley was Warner's offensive coordinator when they lost to the Steelers in Super Bowl XLIII in 2009.

Haley inherits two new assistant coaches Jackson hired this offseason in receivers coach Adam Henry, formerly with the Giants, and Ken Zampese, former offensive coordinator of the Bengals.

Jackson now has two former head coaches manning his offense and defense, including defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, who coached the Bills.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ss...ncart_big-photo