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I'll watch and probably host a mini party (family). It's the freaking Super Bowl.

All this stand, kneel, canceled ad, Patriots boredom, Eagles fan bashing and rigged conspiracy theorist junk are just white noise to me.

Tom is one of the greats and I'll be watching.

Also, while NFL ratings are down, so are all TV ratings across the board. Streaming services are causing a dent. The NFL still had like 7 of the top 10 viewed programs in the calendar year, which was an improvement from last year. People are still watching in droves.

I'll watch. Seen em all.

My wife and I will prep some snacks/appetizers and get to spend another 3-4 hours together. Imo thats what it's all about.

Generally, I couldn't care less who wins.

I'd like to see either team win this year. The Pats cause I appreciate excellence. The Eagles cause they were a team I enjoyed watching in the early 60's, etc. Always liked their colors.

Plus, I just love watching football. Hopefully it'll be a good, close game this year which I think it will be.

NOW IF IT WERE OUR BELOVED PLAYING.........

Nah, what am I thinking?

I remember a time when the NFL, the owners, almost all players, tried very hard to be apolitical and steer clear of "issues" that now seem to monopolize attentions. It was football. It was clear that individual players spoke their minds, not as teams or NFL. Some exceptions came up, like Namath with his win promise.

We seem to think that now these folks need to "weigh in" on all issues, domestic and criminal, character, morality, and the media's overarching need to validate or approve or second guess most situations (see the editorials pretending to be news coverage in USA Today or most other media sources. Opinions are so much tidier and easier to write than doing your job, and the deadlines are easier. Part of this is like every opinion is valued and valid and should be honored. I do not agree. The NFL has lost track of itself. The Modern Super Bowl is optional.
Some interest in commercials, no interest in half time at all, but none of it, especially long lines of talking heads and hours upon hours of overkill coverage, especially when suits chat each other up about nonsense.

I remember a finer time when the NFL was in a better place. I am glad we had that time together, but will miss it on SB LII Sunday.

It doesn't explain anything. I like watching football as others do. I just don't watch it trying to learn anything.

Learn what....it's a game man. If you are still trying to be a coach or something, I get it, otherwise, it's a game.

I don't go to movies to watch actors act or directors direct. I go to be entertained.

I don't go to Browns games to watch for great crossing plays. I go to watch us win games. You know, to have fun.

There was no need to make a post that explains that you don't try to learn anything while watching football. Your posts are proof of that.

NFL rejects Super Bowl LII program ad submitted by veterans group

Erik Brady, USA TODAY Sports Published 8:44 p.m. ET Jan. 22, 2018 | Updated 8:49 p.m. ET Jan. 22, 2018

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf...-ad/1056383001/

The NFL rejected a one-page ad for the NFL’s Super Bowl program submitted by AMVETS with the message “Please Stand.” The veterans organization called that corporate censorship and said similar ads were accepted by the NHL and NBA for official programs for their all-star games.

“The Super Bowl game program is designed for fans to commemorate and celebrate the game, players, teams and the Super Bowl,” NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy told USA TODAY Sports by email. “It’s never been a place for advertising that could be considered by some as a political statement. The NFL has long supported the military and veterans and will again salute our service members in the Super Bowl with memorable on-field moments that will be televised as part of the game.”

Joe Chenelly, executive director of AMVETS, said players who protest by kneeling during the national anthem are exercising their free speech and that AMVETS only wanted to do the same.

“The protests are very much out of our purview,” he said. “We were not looking to comment on those. This is part of our Americanism program” in which the organization conducts seminars in schools and with youth groups on the proper way to display, care for and respect the flag.

LOL....possibly so. I'll admit I don't take it as seriously as you. I watch because it is fun and I love my team. If it wasn't for the Browns, I might not even be a casual NFL fan. Over the years I have latched on to the Falcons and Titans a bit because they are the local TV teams, but I wouldn't plan my day around watching them like I do the Browns.

I really like college ball better. I can sit around on Saturdays and watch any teams playing. If the Browns aren't involved, I can't remember watching many NFL games start to finish minus playoff games. Especially over the last 10 years or so. I don't gain much enjoyment watching say the Skins v Denver. I'd rather get on here and complain or cheer about our team.

The only time I watch college anything is when I am forced to. That includes Notre Dame because of my father and scouting players for the Browns's draft. If the Browns aint playing then I usually have better things to do. This past year was the first time I stopped scheduling my sunday around Browns games. I will have to wait and see how they look this season. I probably have about 6-8 games in me before I say to heck with it and start sleeping in again.

j/c

I'm just not feeling the excitement. I mean, don't we already pretty much know who is going to win before the game is even played? Of course I'll watch it anyway but I mean come on, excitement? I'm just not seeing it.

Just checked on me and chatted my friends up. Still no excitement for anybody. Probably not a valid sample, but the bulk of them hate the halftime nonsense. Over half don't even care about the commercials. Genuine excitement bypass. The pro Bowl didn't help the NFL cause. One called it the "Why Bother?" bowl.

They need to play one outdoors. In the snow, in the mud.

Why?

To add some zest to the game. It’s becoming bland.

Mud, no thanks. Snow, very much yes.

Snow games are so fun to watch.

plan to take a nap since the browns aint playing

I like mud and snow.

But I'd guess those things would make the halftime show difficult.

Another plus!

And I think that has become the problem. This game was made to overcome adversity. Look where the league began and where the games were played. Chicago, Detroit, New York. Bad weather cities at a bad weather time of the year.

Adversity and bad weather were an inherent part of the game.

Now they wish to sanitize it. Take away the elements that makes the game great. They want to favor the QB's, the WR's and the air game. They want a huge half time show.

It has nothing to do with playing the game as intended. It's about the show, not the game.

They played the two first two SB's in Green Bay right?

After the second SB I remember the the NFL made an announcement that they needed to make the final game as fair as possible for both teams and to play at a neutral site and to neutralize the weather as much as possible so it wouldn't favor teams who played more games in cold weather or at altitude.

starting a nap at 6 pm sounds like a recipe for disaster and a bad night's sleep

LOL............I was thinking the same thing, but I diddn't say anything because I don't like to stir the pot.

Vers' comment about watching because he likes watching football made me really think about my being a fan. First of all I am a Browns fan. I have not watched an entire Super Bowl in probably 20 years at least , maybe 30.I do however watch some MNF & other Sunday games, not entire games maybe but still football. Same as college games that aren't OSU.

I also watched the Super Bowl when I was younger. The first I know I watched was the Jets Colts but not because I remember the game per se. I remember other events that day.

I think I don't watch much of the SB anymore is because it is no longer a FB game, it is an event. They hype over the half time show, commercials, 4 hours plus pregame etc turned me off.

I know I sound like a "get off my lawn old fogey" but the game was on Sunday afternoon during daylight which felt like a real game.

Plus so many people watch who aren't FB fans so they just want to say they watched it. It reminds me of celebrity Lakers fans during ShowTime when it was "the place to be".

I know this may sound irrational, but I long for when it was a game primarily.

Just my 2 cents.

Hey Fort......I wanna clarify my earlier point.

I have zero problem if people don't watch a lot of games and are only interested in the Browns. I hope I did not send the wrong message. I promise, that was not my intent.

I have read your posts over the years and you are always level-headed and fair. I was speaking of guys who don't watch games and then pretend to know things about our team and other teams throughout the league.

We had a guy on here who said there were several better receivers than Jarvis Landry in this upcoming draft. I bet the dude never watched Landry closely. They talk about how bad our play calling is, but they don't watch other teams.

It's cool to not watch games, Fort.

What isn't cool, is that we have several posters who don't watch games and pretend to be experts on professional football. I find those posters to be deceiving.

No need to clarify. I knew what you meant by it. It just made me start thinking about my "fandom". That and yesterday while I was having floor covering installed throughout my house, one of the installers asked me where I would be watching it.

I think he assumed I would because I live in a small town and he knew I was very much involved in our schools athletic endeavors. For years I have felt the Super Bowl was more a party than a game. The last SB I watched a majority of was the Saints/Colts because I wanted both to win. I think sports in general has been taken over by money and it makes me sad.

I think we are about the same age and I remember things before free agency in sports. I am not saying that FA is bad, just culturally different. Growing up as a huge Reds fan in the Big Red Machine hey day I would bet at age 12 or 13 I could name 90% of the starters on all NL teams. No way today, too much movement year to year.

I know I sound like an old man but money did help players who were held down and bring more exposure. Growing up college FB only televised about 3 games each Saturday. Now it is almost every night which I like.

Also I am not completely against change. I loved the USFL in the 80s. It was so cool watching football in April , May & June.

Anyway, just an insight to my thought process and further explanation about the Super Bowl and why I don't usually have excitement for it. By the way, the playoffs are better to me anyway. More teams and the participants will change year to year, with a few regulars.

The first Super Bowl was played in Los Angeles at the Coliseum. The second Super Bowl was played in Miami at the Orange Bowl.

The Super Bowl has always been played in warm climates or indoors.

2014 was the first cold weather climate outdoor Super Bowl.

Link

I can agree. I loved playing in rotten weather! We were the Sea Pigs. This has become so sanitized or dry cleaned or something. The Super Bowl is on its way to becoming Pro Bowl 2 - the Sequel. Have fun with it. But it is a party excuse IMO. We watch it. We root for opposing teams, the wife and I do. But it is game, not the chatting about your feelings, hours of drivel, and we do not watch half time. Do look at some commercials.

Some of the earlier SB games were wars. I liked it better then.

Meanwhile, Vers be like...

Not sure about this year but they refused very clean pro-military, pro-family, pro 2nd ad fro
Daniel Defense last year...you can find it on youtube

Pretty sure 95% of the country knows this superbowl will be lame.

The 5% is people who live in NE.

Its been years since they even had good commercials.

So I dunno.

I have absolutely zero interest in this game, or this form of entertainment (I don't really think of it as a sport but a spectacle), right now.

Dawg, you just made a friend saying that to Vers!


He hosts a great thread every year, when the divisional playoffs drop.

"The Best Weekend In Pro Football."

And the season was over at Thanksgiving and the championship was in early Dec., not early Feb.

Answer me this: If football was meant to be played in snow and muck, why didn't the season start in Nov? Another question. Why are all the Bowl games played in warm weather sites and not held in Cleveland and Buffalo?

At some point I think the media "Powers That Be" realized - "Hey, how can we make this a huge National TV Event?"

"Let's get non-sports fans interested."

Thus the venues where you can have elaborate half time shows. Coupled with a few uniquely entertaining TV commercials and other "side events".

I'm just guessing. But maybe in the early '80s?

Hey, it was 4 years ago today (Groundhog Day sacrilege) they did an outdoor cold weather Superbowl.

Probably the last time they'll do that. At least for a very long time.

I am ok with spectacle. I probably like all the Superbowl hoopla.

But it should be secondary to a good competitive game.

Pats vs whoever is lame and tired.

The actual game this time is certainly not inspiring excitement.

Yeah Peen, there isn't a lot of rain in the fall. Watching teams play in the rain, mud and snow over the decades has been a figment of my imagination. The early days of football being played in bad weather towns as the very beginning and birth of football didn't happen. The term "defense wins championships" is because football is played in great weather.

But you are right in the fact that it has been turned into a spectacle. They now play the game where the poor little fans won't get cold. Where the environment can be controlled to the degree in a dome. Where the wine and cheese crowd will spend hundreds and thousands on the tickets.

Yeah, well, that not the game I grew up with.

Sorry for being so snarky.

Yeah watching the best team in the history of the NFL is certainly not inspiring excitement. Especially after that lame 25 point comeback last year in OT.

And of course this should have been the Browns.

Although then there'd be 1,000 active posters on this Board.

The Browns would probably have an official forum if we won multiple super bowls.

Going to watch but not excited and no plans to get excited. lol