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Shame on Nunes, Gowdy, et al for this farce.

Truth be dammed ... its a farce ... ..

I got news for u and your leftie friends .. sorry about this ...

FACTS DON’T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS!!!

Shame on U for not caring about the TRUTH and only about your HATE DRIVEN AGENDA!!!!

SHAME ON U ...

Its overall simplistic to think that a FISA warrant was issued on the dossier alone without LOTS of other complicating evidence, many levels of reviews and signatures, investigation/fed lawyer reviews and federal judge signatures.
Do any of you even know about how much information actually goes into a FISA application. Most FISA applications are around 60 pages of application, lawyer talk and evidence. There was a whole lot more on Page, Papadopoulos than what you think.

And do you know how the president can help solve a lot of the issues with the investigation. He should release his taxes (like he said he would) and he should talk to Mueller if he doesn't have nothing to hide.

Yo Bard-

You've heard of Yo Mama jokes, right?
Now on Twitter, the newest fad is 'yo memo' jokes.

"Yo memo so stupid, it's like Trump just got an extra son."
"Yo memo so bankrupt, it used to be a Trump casino."
"Yo Memo So weak it had to ride in a golf cart while everyone else walked. ."
"Yo memo so full of holes, the NRA sent thoughts and prayers."

Pence says memo 'raises serious concerns,' suggests more memos on Russia probe will be released.

Democrats before release of the memo...
"This memo threatens the security of the United States and should never be released!"

Democrats after the release...
"This is a nothing burger!"

Of course Trump says this! It's the whole reason he had Nunes write the Fake News Memo!

If at first you don't succeed, try try again... just like the email and Benghazi investigations! Frauds!

No, first you level the charges then you bring the evidence.
Soon after, out comes the rope.

Mueller is bringing the rope, ask Manafort.

It really is comical how the left thinks this is a sham yet they believe wholeheartedly the nonsense they're spewing. Interesting, the fix was in against Sanders yet they shun the idea they tried to fix against Trump.

The Sanders fix was real and based in fact, not Nunes with crayons!

Honest your Honor we fixed the Primaries but we didn't try to fix the Presidency

The funniest thing is that Nunes didn't even read the FISA application.

You know Trey Gowdy did right? I'm sure your familiar with how committees work also right?

Yep. Still doesn't change that he is quoting a secondary source. Also it doesn't change a hit job.

A Republican lawmaker is calling for the criminal prosecution of top FBI and Justice Department officials named in the Republican memo on alleged government surveillance abuses.

In a statement, Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.) said the memo reveals the FISA surveillance program was abused to target the Trump campaign, transition and administration, which he said is "clear and convincing evidence of treason."


Ready the Rope!

Gowdy: Nunes memo has no effect on Russia probe

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/03/trey-gowdy-nunes-memo-russia-probe-389083

Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) said a GOP memo alleging FBI misconduct has nothing to do with special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russia's actions in the 2016 election and possible links to President Donald Trump's campaign.

"Not to me, it doesn't — and I was pretty integrally involved in the drafting of it," Gowdy told CBS's Margaret Brennan for an interview set to air on "Face the Nation" on Sunday. "There is a Russia investigation without a dossier. So to the extent the memo deals with the dossier and the FISA process, the dossier has nothing to do with the meeting at Trump Tower."


"The dossier has nothing to do with an email sent by Cambridge Analytica. The dossier really has nothing to do with George Papadopoulos' meeting in Great Britain. It also doesn't have anything to do with obstruction of justice."

The memo alleges top FBI and Department of Justice officials were not forthcoming about the motivations behind Christopher Steele's controversial dossier, including indirect funding from Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton's campaign. The memo further states the dossier was essential to the bureau's request to spy on Trump foreign policy adviser Carter Page.

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Some of the president's allies have sought to use the memo to bash the FBI and undermine the integrity of those involved in Mueller's probe.

Gowdy has cautioned his fellow Republicans about jumping to conclusions, adding that his advice last week had been to leave Mueller "the hell alone."

The president wrote on Twitter Saturday that the memo "totally vindicates 'Trump'" and that there was no collusion or obstruction.

Gowdy, a three-term lawmaker who rose to prominence with his role in multiple investigations including a probe into the attack on the U.S. compound in Benghazi, Libya, announced earlier this week that he is not seeking reelection.

CHS, how long will it be until Gowdy gets the RINO label?

and now #yomemojokes is blowing up twitter, up to number 2 this morning. There are some really good ones in here.

Yo memo jokes


One of the better ones I liked:

The memo was such a disappointment, the president renamed it Eric.

Oh and another:

Yo Memo so evil she helps sneak Roy Moore into the mall

I don't know, probably when this investigation starts to get somewhere. They really haven't met with any of the principal actors. Personally, I think the case gets stronger every week and I'm cool with a drawn out investigation. The FBI is clearly doing their due diligence here and while I'd never say I'm proud of the FBI or FISA courts as they're an affront to Democracy and have always been, but I am glad they're doing their due diligence. Unfortunately these long investigations do become politicized so facts become partisan. The Benghazi situation is probably the biggest example with it lasting 3-4 years depending on the time line. At the end of it HRC became a martyr to Democrats and became a criminal to Republicans. I suspect the GOP will keep up appearances of Respectability though and grill Trump if collusion is found.

See my previous post for some of my early favorites.

new(er) submissions:

"Yo memo so fake, Kool-Aid is making it a flavor."
"Yo memo so spotty, it tied for 2nd in a Steve Bannon look-alike contest."
"Yo memo so stupid, Republicans be callin' it 'Mr. President, sir-'"
"Yo memo so non-threatening, Mother let Mike Pence take her to dinner."
"Yo memo such a disaster, Puerto Rico just tossed Nunes some paper towels."


1A at work: in the digital age.

Trump is scared to death of something and desperate to end Mueller's investigation! His minions are kowtowing and spreading his message. Any reasonable person can see right through this distraction and weak attempt to obstruct justice! Mueller IS coming for Trump, so yep, ready that rope!

The deep state would love that but it will not happen. Mueller has nothing. After over a year of investigating he has nothing. A few small indictments that have nothing to do with Trump or collusion. Without proving collusion there is no obstruction.

The hammer will fall on the FBI/DOJ. I actually hope it falls on Mueller also. He has expanded way out of his initial mandate. The country knows it. Witch hunt.

Questions on Mueller’s role in Fast and Furious remain unanswered....

Donald Trump said 4 things that aren't true in a single 47-word tweet

By Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large
Updated 4:51 PM ET, Sat February 3, 2018

(CNN)On Saturday morning, before heading out for a round of golf, President Donald Trump tweeted this:

"This memo totally vindicates 'Trump' in probe. But the Russian Witch Hunt goes on and on. Their was no Collusion and there was no Obstruction (the word now used because, after one year of looking endlessly and finding NOTHING, collusion is dead). This is an American disgrace!"

The "memo" in question is the one released by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-California, that alleges that a dossier compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele was the sole reason a FISA warrant was granted to surveil one-time Trump aide Carter Page. (Got all that?)

Trump's tweet is 47 words long. In those 47 words, he said 4 things that are simply not true. Let's go through them!

1. "This memo totally vindicates 'Trump' in probe."

First things first: Like you, I have no idea why Trump put "Trump" in quotes in the tweet. Maybe he means the collective Trump world of family, advisers and family advisers?

That's not the really important thing, though. The really important thing is that the Nunes memo -- even if you believe every word of it -- does not "totally vindicate" Trump.

Presuming the "probe" Trump is referring to here is special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation, it's important to note here that the "probe" is looking into Russia's attempted interference into the 2016 presidential election and whether there was any collusion between Russia and members of the Trump campaign.

What the Nunes memo alleges -- and Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee insist that that Steele dossier wasn't the only reason the FISA warrant for Page was approved -- has zero to do with Mueller's probe. Trump is conflating the possibility the FISA warrant against Page with the broader investigation into Russia's attempted meddling in a national US election.

Don't believe me? Here's what House Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy, R-South Carolina, tweeted after the Nunes memo release: "As I have said repeatedly, I also remain 100 percent confident in Special Counsel Robert Mueller. The contents of this memo do not - in any way - discredit his investigation."

2. "The Russian Witch Hunt goes on and on"

It is true that Mueller's investigation continues. As do the House and Senate congressional committees' probes into Russia's involvement in the 2016 election.

But to describe these investigations as a "witch hunt" simply doesn't comport with known facts. Witch hunts are specious investigations driven by preconceived notions that wind up not being born out.

So far in the Mueller investigation, two Trump associates -- former national security adviser Michael Flynn and former foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos -- have pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI in regards their relationships with Russia -- and are cooperating with the Mueller probe. Two more one-time aides -- campaign chairman Paul Manafort and his deputy Rick Gates -- have been charged with a series of counts including money laundering.

Even if you dismiss the Manafort/Gates charges -- they haven't been found guilty -- how can you dismiss the guilty pleas by Papadopoulos and Flynn? If this was a "witch hunt," then why did these two men plead guilty? If they hadn't done anything wrong, why plead guilty and agree to cooperate with the investigation?

3. "Their was no Collusion and there was no Obstruction"

It's "there." But whatever.

Both the Mueller investigation and House and Senate Intelligence committees' investigations are ongoing. It is, therefore, totally impossible to make definitive statements about what has or has not been found.

"The committee continues to look into all evidence to see if there was any hint of collusion," Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr, R-North Carolina, said last fall, adding: "The issue of collusion is still open."

Trump can accurately say that no evidence has been made public that proves collusion between his campaign and Russia. But that's not what he's saying. And therefore, he's wrong.

4. "After one year of looking endlessly and finding NOTHING, collusion is dead."

Again, there is simply no way Trump can know this based on what we know now. Mueller hasn't spoken publicly about the status of his investigation since he was appointed in the middle of 2017. The last time Burr gave any sort of major update on the working of his committee's investigation was in early October 2017. The House Intelligence Committee has devolved in partisan warfare.

Maybe Mueller and the congressional committees looking into Russia and the 2016 election have found "NOTHING." But, right now, we can't know that. All we know is that they haven't announced any findings that prove (or disprove) collusion. So, collusion may be dead. But given that these are ongoing investigations, it could also be very much alive. We just don't know.


https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/03/politics/trump-tweet-memo-analysis/index.html

I actually laughed out loud.

Nice opinionated piece by CNN. Trumps tweet looks like it's his opinion too. Whatever

His idiot son literally presented evidence of collusion because he was too dumb to know what the word meant.

As I've said many times in the past - I'm not overly concerned with the collusion itself. All campaigns and administrations do it.

The concern is how dumb these people are, and how cluelessly they've gone about it.

The guy who is afraid of Times Square is here to talk about feelings.

I agree 100%

The fact that Hillary was exonerated on emails so she can stay in Presidential race, the fact the DNC fixed the Primary so their woman can win the nomination, the fact the DNC and Hillary campaign paid for fake dossier to help her win the Presidency (backfired BIGLY), the fact that high ranking FBI & DOJ officials hate Trump and would do ANYTHING to stop him from WINNING (backfired BIGLY), I would say they're CLUELESS.

I remember how Trump was ridiculed and mocked because he found out he was wiretapped. Even that punk Sheppard Smith on Fox mocked him. I'll be damned, not only was Trump right, FAKE evidence was used to wiretap....frickin IDIOTS.

Yeah, let the left distract from what they did with FAKE RUSSIAN COLLUSION.

Hillary was clueless as well, yes.

You don't find it troubling that your response to "Trump is a moron" is "what about Hillary?" because you can't refute the fact that Trump is a moron?

(Also, almost all of what you just said is factually incorrect)

Trump is the FAKE PRESIDENT.

So you think Trump is a moron, so what, opinion not fact.

Ummm what Hillary did goes hand in hand with this Trump crap. DNC is following the oldest play in the crooks handbook; look over here while I do this over there.

So what is factually incorrect in my SUMMARY?

No, it's pretty much a fact.

He has a child-like understanding of the world. He doesn't know what health insurance is, and got his feelings hurt because he thought that winning the election would garner him instant respect and admiration. He doesn't read, and can't spell, and he's incapable of thought or introspection. Everything about him is knee-jerk.



Once again, yes, the DNC and the Clintons are inept and corrupt.

That doesn't change the fact that Trump is a moron.



Every bit of it. The entirety of you fawning over a racist old man with dementia is completely inaccurate. Nothing in the memo confirms anything you said. Trump wasn't vindicated in any sense.

LMAO

So put Trump on Trial for being a MORON, don't waste time and money on BS Russian collusion.

Wait a minute, being a moron isn't against the law. Damn, neither is collusion. Hey, I got it, let's try to find OBSTRUCTION somewhere.

We've reached the "Being a moron isn't against the law" stage of Trump defense.

I can't stop laughing.

I'm laughing right along with you, nah....at you. Convo gettin stupid again.

The guy who cheerleads for a racist crybaby in the throes of dementia is laughing at me.

Zing.

He isn't laughing alone.