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The GOP spends like drunken sailors just like the Dems do.


Now wait a minute!



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Wanna know what our town did? Regardless, I'll tell you.

The absolute largest user of water is a company called Con Agra. I'm sure you're all familiar with it, possibly by other names though.

Our town has met the needs, but Con Agra is looking at moving other production here. So? The town passed a tax to expand the water plant, well beyond what would be needed for a town of some 4500 people. And well beyond what Con Agra would need.

And, no federal help. No state help.

Water and sewage prices have gone up, necessarily.

Wasn't even all that long ago Con Agra wanted to close the plant here. Tax incentives, plus the availability of work force made them decide to stay here.

Another town/small city (I don't know exactly what to call Napoleon, Oh), needs new sewer lines that don't overflow into the Maumee river when it rains.

Cost to re do the sewer lines was crazy expensive. But, they got it figured out. Without federal money.

But, pit will tell you urban areas can't afford to do it and thus need federal money.

Weird. All too often we find needs and require someone ELSE'S money to fill those needs. As long as you're spending someone else's money to fill YOUR needs, there will always be needs.

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User fees, local taxes, federal monies.....it all comes out of the same pocket.....

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I love how you overlooked the math arch. You seem to think that cities where urban flight and a lack of investment from business is on par with small suburban communities.

Like I said, some would just watch our cities crumble. You seem to be one of them.


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And just who may that some be? I think it would be libs in congress that represent most of the major Metropolitan areas that have flight and blight problems IMO

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And just who may that some be? I think it would be libs in congress that represent most of the major Metropolitan areas that have flight and blight problems IMO


People need to flee the Liberal cities as their government favors foreigners over citizens.

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I would say you are correct. And as I said before, both parties tend to cater to their constituents. So it would be logical to think that the GOP would funnel more money to suburban locations while the Dems would funnel more money to urban areas. It's just the way politics works. I'm not trying to point the finger at either side. I'm pointing my finger at both.


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I love how you overlooked the math arch. You seem to think that cities where urban flight and a lack of investment from business is on par with small suburban communities.

Like I said, some would just watch our cities crumble. You seem to be one of them.


New York or LA has a larger population than most states. I wonder why their costs are so much different than a town of 60k.

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Trump's $4.4 trillion budget moves deficit sharply higher

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-4-trillion-budget-helps-062340996.html

Trump supporters on this board claimed he was gonna fix the deficit.

Well.....sup guys?


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Oh yea.

Hey guys, now that we got the tax cuts, when will trump and Ivankas products start being produced here instead of China?

America first right?


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Oh yea.

Hey guys, now that we got the tax cuts, when will trump and Ivankas products start being produced here instead of China?

America first right?


This is a good point. If he was producing his product overseas to save money on taxes, he's eliminated that excuse himself.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Oh yea.

Hey guys, now that we got the tax cuts, when will trump and Ivankas products start being produced here instead of China?

America first right?


If Trump cuts foreign spending and deverts every penny of that to our infrastructure I will have to sing his praises on every penny of that.


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Oh yea.

Hey guys, now that we got the tax cuts, when will trump and Ivankas products start being produced here instead of China?

America first right?


This is a good point. If he was producing his product overseas to save money on taxes, he's eliminated that excuse himself.


Taxes are but small part of why businesses leave the US....Ask any business person....employee costs (salary and benies) are typically the biggest expense and if you want bigger bang for you cuts....you look at biggest expenses......more profit paying $20 a day vs $20 an hour.

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Oh yea.

Hey guys, now that we got the tax cuts, when will trump and Ivankas products start being produced here instead of China?

America first right?


This is a good point. If he was producing his product overseas to save money on taxes, he's eliminated that excuse himself.


Taxes are but small part of why businesses leave the US....Ask any business person....employee costs (salary and benies) are typically the biggest expense and if you want bigger bang for you cuts....you look at biggest expenses......more profit paying $20 a day vs $20 an hour.


This is true, but this is also what he ran on.


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Originally Posted By: teedub
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Oh yea.

Hey guys, now that we got the tax cuts, when will trump and Ivankas products start being produced here instead of China?

America first right?


This is a good point. If he was producing his product overseas to save money on taxes, he's eliminated that excuse himself.


Taxes are but small part of why businesses leave the US....Ask any business person....employee costs (salary and benies) are typically the biggest expense and if you want bigger bang for you cuts....you look at biggest expenses......more profit paying $20 a day vs $20 an hour.


Trump literally said that tax cuts will bring jobs back from overseas.

so I'm waiting on trump to put his money where his mouth is.


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Oh yea.

Hey guys, now that we got the tax cuts, when will trump and Ivankas products start being produced here instead of China?

America first right?


Wake up already!
Trump doesn't have any products. He had to sign them over to the kids in order to be your President.

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You mean he was SUPPOSED to.


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Well at least I know now why trump doesn’t actually do anything against the Chinese.

A Chinese bank, owned by the Chinese government, rents out of trump tower.

That’s the good ole business effiency that Excl and DC wanted in government.


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What's he supposed to do "against" the Chinese?

Are you sure Russia wasn't involved somewhere, somehow?

We went away for a few hours. When we got home, our dog had scattered shoes through out the house. (on a sidenote, that little guy can have the insole of a shoe out quicker than any living human could do it)

I guess we left the t.v. on cnn or something because when we got home and I saw shoes all over I asked "What happened here?" Dogs reply was "The Russians did it."

So, now you're telling me my dog may get brainwashed again, and be able to tell me the Chinese did it?

Hell, that gives him 2 excuses now. The russians. The chinese. I think my dog might be a liberal.

On a side note: Our schools girls basketball team that was ranked #5 in the state in d III lost to Ottawa Glandorf - ranked #9 in the state in D 3.

And not a single russian or chinese was responsible. We just stunk.

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i dont give two craps about your dog, nor do i care what happened in your basketball team in this thread.

it's a clear conflict of interest due to the fact that he has one of, if not the largest bank of china kicking in his tower.

maybe that has something to do with him not sanctioning china after they got busted red handed helping NK out after the sanctions? didn't the administration claim to sanction anybody caught assisting them?

maybe that has something to do with the fact that he is the one who also claimed that companies aren't bringing jobs over from china because of taxes. well he got his tax cuts, so why isn't he bringing his jobs back from china?


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I'm gonna start blaming all the bad con posts on the Russians now. Thanks Arch.

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Well, I just read this to my dog, and he's offended by your comments.

And the girls lost to a team that was all white. They didn't have one person of any color on the team......but, we are protesting because we think the russians were involved, so there's that.

OG must be a racist team with russian help in order for them to beat us. Our team has 2 Mexicans on it. Yeah, self described Mexicans. So, obviously, that white team, with russian collusion which we can't prove just yet, only won because they cheated. I mean, it's obvious to all.

AND, Ottawa - an obvious native american name, and Glandorf - an obvious reference to German superiority and white supremacy - hence the school name "Ottawa Glandorf Titans - had to have won only because of collusion.

There is no way they just simply beat us by being better. In fact, there were e-mails that showed the collusion, but their AD had them scrubbed from his computer and server. The only thing is, those e mails exist on other computers, BUT the investigators are in cahoots with the O.G. AD, and won't show them.



Damn racist O.G., in cahoots with the Russians and probably Chinese as well.

Oh well, neither team will beat Africentric - the Nubians, in the regionals. It's not like they recruit players from all over the midwest, and certainly their coach isn't racist. I mean, he only got suspended for a game last year for talking about how bad the ref's were and how white teams get to play and stuff.




DAmn, this blaming others, and racism thing is so damn easy. And now we have "the russians did it", and "the chinese pay rent" stuff to blame crap on.

And my dog - he of the white hair breed - still wants to know what the hell he did to you that you don't care about him. Racist much he asks?

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I'm gonna start blaming all the bad con posts on the Russians now. Thanks Arch.


And I'll start blaming all the stupid posts on you. Thanks.

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I'm gonna start blaming all the bad con posts on the Russians now. Thanks Arch.


And I'll start blaming all the stupid posts on you. Thanks.


But I'm not a Russian or Chinese. Can you handle blaming three things at once? Do you think you're ready for that? I think this post is a Russian ploy to create divisiveness in the blame game. Shame on the Russian puppets.

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ok, i see my previous post is still relevant:

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i dont give two craps about your dog, nor do i care what happened in your basketball team in this thread.

it's a clear conflict of interest due to the fact that he has one of, if not the largest bank of china kicking in his tower.

maybe that has something to do with him not sanctioning china after they got busted red handed helping NK out after the sanctions? didn't the administration claim to sanction anybody caught assisting them?

maybe that has something to do with the fact that he is the one who also claimed that companies aren't bringing jobs over from china because of taxes. well he got his tax cuts, so why isn't he bringing his jobs back from china?



i guess i can expect you not actually answering the question.


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Yup, I can.

You seem to have no problem blaming the russians, and I promise, if you could blame the chinese (like swish) you would.

Of course, you are also the person that said you hope I have nothing to do with my daughter and helping her decide where to go. So, I have personal issues with you.

By the way, my 17 year old daughter that started a job back in January? At minimum wage? She's already gotten a pay increase, as well as a promotion.

Which, I find weird, because on here we're constantly told how people can't work for minimum wage........and yet within 30 days, my daughter isn't making minimum wage. By God, all she did was show up for work, on time, and do her job. And she got a raise. After 30 days. (give or take a few days)

But, that doesn't sit well, I'm sure, with some on here that proclaim loudly and proudly "we need to raise the minimum wage".

Nah, we need to have people show the hell up for work, and they won't be making minimum.

Oh, my daughter is doing great, despite, in your mind, having a dad who knows nothing. Thanks.

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There is no such thing as a fiscally conservative Republican when there is a Republican I the White House.

Regan, GWBush and now Trump.

They only have a conscience when a Democratic is in office.

Balancing a budget means revenue and expenses. But Trump threw that away with the tax cuts.

It is not too difficult to figure out.


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Trump budget chief says he would oppose budget if he were in Congress

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-budget-...--business.html

lmfao. i liked how he tried to spin it after the comment, too.


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I'd like to see a post where I blame the Russians. However, I'm glad your daughter is being paid by the Russians.

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There is no such thing as a fiscally conservative Republican when there is a Republican I the White House.

Regan, GWBush and now Trump.

They only have a conscience when a Democratic is in office.

Balancing a budget means revenue and expenses. But Trump threw that away with the tax cuts.

It is not too difficult to figure out.


Or, there is no such thing as a fiscally conservative democrat - ever.

Let's face it, no matter who's in the white house, or who controls congress, our gov't. spends like a drunken sailor.

I will gladly accept my tax cut. I feel I can do better with the dollars saved than the gov't. can do with those dollars.

You seem to feel otherwise, so feel free to send your extra to DC.

A balanced budget? Yeah. The only balanced budget is mine. I have to live within my means. The fed's don't care about balanced budgets.......and when is the last time we had a balanced budget? (careful here - it's a trick question)

The gov't. gets to keep about 3 different books. In total, it looks okay. Not good. But individually, it looks terrible. Horrible, actually.

It would be similar to a private individual that pays bills on one credit card, then pays that credit card with another one, then pays that bill with another card.

The problem with gov't. is spending. Not taxes. It's spending. And all the bennies that go with working for the gov't. I might add.

So yes, I'll gladly keep my tax cut. It's my freaking money anyway. You do the country a favor and overpay. Hell, we could all overpay - won't make a damn dent in nothing, as the gov't. under any initial, will just spend more.

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When people buy bonds of your credit, you can begin to do more speculative accounting things. You know having a good accountant can go miles. You never know where you can save the extra penny.

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Yeah. I don't even know what you said. It sounded to me like keeping more of the money you earn is a good thing. I agree with that.

Gov't. is gonna spend spend spend. Let me keep more of my money so I don't have to rely on the gov't..

Course, that only goes so far. When you're sick and bills start adding up, and you have a house, or retirement accounts, the gov't is going to take those first. Us working people have no choice. It is what it is.

Those that don't work? Workers pay for them, and then themselves.

I wish to God you'd pay some of my bills. That would make it so much easier for me. Have mercy on me. But, I'm white. I'm male. I have a job. I'm married. Between my wife and I, we make over the limit for benefits, and I don't qualify for disability (and I'm not complaining about that). I also don't get fake military disability. Or my wife getting fake welfare, since, you know, we're married.

I know too many that cheat the system - be it disability, hunting without a license, cheating on titles, lying to in insurance commpanies, etc.

Makes me wonder why the hell I play by the rules when so many others don't.

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Let's face it, no matter who's in the white house, or who controls congress, our gov't. spends like a drunken sailor.

Not when the the Cons control congress and a Dems are in the WH.

And oh BTW the Cons still haven't paid for 2 wars they put on the social security credit card. Time to pay up.


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I also don't get fake military disability.


WHo are you to decide that our servicemen or women are faking their disability?


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I also don't get fake military disability.



arch...did you serve in the military?...were you injured in combat?...did you get shot at, fear for your life?...did you get shot?...have you served in a war and witnessed all that goes with a shooting war, you know arch, the kia and the wounded?...you ever try to save the life of a fellow soldier who has had his arms and/or legs blown off by an ied?

If the answer to most of these questions is YES...then you should realize that you made a stupid comment about our soldiers faking injuries.

If the answer to most of these questions is NO...then you should realize that you are not qualified to judge our soldiers and whether they have been injured.

For every soldier awarded compensation for their injuries,
there are many who claim they are fine who really do need help.

It might be best to leave our military out of your argument...just a suggestion.


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For you, and kingo.

I was referencing 3 people in particular. 3 people that I know, personally.

Not a single one of them was shot at. Not a single one of them served in a war zone. None of them saw anyone get shot.

3 of them. All 'back' injuries. 1 got injured after falling from the bed of a pickup truck. Drunk.

1 is a total fake, as even vets that know him well say that he's a disgrace.

And 1 that can climb all over.....well, let's just say that doing the job he/she does, it can't be done with a bad back.

THAT/THOSE are what I was referencing when I said "fake" disability.

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People keep talking about fraud with disability/government assistance, but I asked in the other thread and didn’t get a response.

What’s the actual rate of fraud with those programs?


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I do not know the actual rate. I doubt anyone does.

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arch..unless you have access to their military records, you are attempting to judge whether these individuals have suffered a back injury with little of no access to the soldiers medical records.

I'm guessing by the way you answered the questions I asked, you have not been in the military which would mean that you have not experienced what these soldiers have.

You are not qualified to judge these soldiers, yet you feel you must single them out, doubting those who judged their disability cases.

Disabilities are not handed out like candy and the individuals have their cases reviewed by qualified medical professionals periodically.

You may feel it is your judgement that is superior to the doctors who judge the injury status...but I'm not so sure I would believe your assumptions over a medical professional.

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