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i've read in the past few days, from several different news sources that different members of the coaching staff have all said the same thing, that quinn is a longshot to win the starting qb position..
do you guys think they are saying this because it's true, or because they want to gain leverage to make quinn sign a cheaper deal
it's good leverage because you can say, "well we aren't going to give you top 5 money because right now, you aren't even a near shoe-in for the starting job"
i just ask this because i really don't think that the coaches have gotten a great look at quinn, you can't really make judgements based on ota's...
my other question is, do you guys think quinn and his agent are waiting to see what jamarcus russell gets, or is that irrelevant...
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Most rookies are long shots to start unless the current QBs are just horrible and Frye right now is better then Quinn. Next year I see it as being even or Quinn having a leg up. It's very rare for a QB to come in his rookie year and win the starting job right out of the gate.
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No, he's really not going to start. He hasn't even signed yet.
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It doesn't get any more irrelevant!
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Honestly,, They've kinda said all along that he has to be the clear winner in camp to get the starting job,, I'm not sure, but I don't think I've heard Savage or RAC waiver from that stance..
I'm sure there is a little gamesmenship going on as well, but again, they have kinda taken that stance since the day the drafted him.
Granted they could have been saying that so as not to mess with the ego on Frye and/or Anderson.. But it seems to me that holding Quinn back until he clearly wins the job is the wise choice...
But I don't care who's name is on the starting QB's jersey as long as he's the best we have for the job..... Dorsey could win it for all I care as long as he does his job right when in there.
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Kid and water,,, what do you mean by irrelivant
Why?
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Quinn isn't in camp. He's meaningless to the proceedings in Berea. When he signs, he'll be way behind. That's the price you pay for holding out.
As for Russell, his contract will dwarf the Quinn deal in every way. No connection at all.
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.. " my other question is, do you guys think quinn and his agent are waiting to see what jamarcus russell gets, or is that irrelevant."
.........irrelevant !
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Kid and water,,, what do you mean by irrelivant
Why?
Here was the question:
my other question is, do you guys think quinn and his agent are waiting to see what jamarcus russell gets, or is that irrelevant...
Russell was the #1 pick in the draft, Quinn was the #22 pick in the draft.. It is irrelevant what Russell's contract is because Quinn's contract should be nothing like it.. That's just one man's opinion.
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i'm asking this, because the coaches have outright said quinn is a longshot to get the job, when instead of saying the usual "right thing" like "we'll try and get him out here and see where it goes from there" the usual garbage non answer, but it seems like they're trying to help the front office's cause by saying he's a longshot...
just thought i'd make good conversation...
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@ water and Kidd, the question you answered was actually the second question asked, this was the first question: Quote:
do you guys think they are saying this because it's true, or because they want to gain leverage to make quinn sign a cheaper deal
I think they're saying it because Quinn truly has little-to-no chance of starting the season.
@ water and Kidd, again 
I agree with both of you, Russel's contract will not influence Quinn's contract at all, Quinn will not get within a gunshot of what Russell will get. Maybe someday he will, if he proves himself worthy? However, today isn't that day!
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i think they are curious to what Jamarcus will make... but honestly.. Quinn can't worry about that... He needs to be worried about how he can take over the QB spot.. the longer he waits.. that str8 road is gonna get a few more curves in it, and it will take him even longer to get where he dreams to be... a starter for the Cleveland Browns...
to me its obvious that he thinks Frye and Anderson aren't good enough to be... but I think he has another thing coming..
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i just ask this because i really don't think that the coaches have gotten a great look at quinn, you can't really make judgements based on ota's...
I think you answered your own question right there.
They don't even know what they have yet in Quinn. Given that, how can he be anything but a long-shot to become the starter for opening day?
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where is Charlie Weis now? Instead of being in RAC's ear amping Quinn up.. he needs to be in Quinns ear telling him that he needs to sign ASAP...
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Could you please be more descriptive of your subject line titles. Thanking you in advance.
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I have some questions too:
- Can you please learn how to title threads?
- Can you post on the Quinn threads that are already there?
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- Can you please learn how to title threads?
- Can you post on the Quinn threads that are already there?
no, and no.
if you don't like it, complain to the refs.
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I have some questions too:
- Can you please learn how to title threads?
- Can you post on the Quinn threads that are already there?
no, and no.
if you don't like it, complain to the refs.
o they will... people complain on here like its a 9 to 5 and someone just messed up their hard work.. lol
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people complain on here like its a 9 to 5 and someone just messed up their hard work.. lol
How little you know.
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Do we really want quinn starting against pittsburg's zone blitz, or studying behind a QB that's very familiar with it?
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I see a lot of differing opinions about when they would like to see Quinn on the field. Are most people thinking that they would rather have Quinn sit the entire year and not get any playing time other than preseason games if he gets in here sometime soon. If Quinn gets in here within a week, I would like to see him get some starts sometime after week 8 if our QBs are not getting the job done. I would think this would give him a whole lot more experience and so if he does start outta camp next year that hes not just like a rookie and have never seen the field. Do most people feel the same way or would ya like to see him sit out and watch the whole year?
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I would like to see him on the field when he becomes the best QB on the roster. If it is opening day this year or next (or somewhere in between) I'm ok with it.
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Quinn should not start period. Not this year. Let the boy sit his butt on the bench and watch for the year. Too many damn times I've watched folks rush young QBs in and screw them up. Put him in in the 3rd quarter to get him some play time and get the speed. But for the love of all that is Brown and White, let the kid learn first.
IMHO, he would have had a uphill road to beat out the other QBs even if he got into camp right away. But missing practices only puts him further behind the 8 ball. He's arguing (or his agent is rather) for pennies. The deal will get done, it's just a matter of when. And was it worth the price of missing the practices with the team he is supposed to be leading? Not in my book.
Get in camp. Start learning. Get ready to play.
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