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anybody else noticed that once again, Trump is criticizing everyone else BUT russia?

he even went after Oprah, for whatever reason.

trump supporters never seem to want to answer that question straight up without playing "whatabout"

why does trump talk tough to everyone but russia? why haven't the sanctions been implemented yet? why hasn't he sanctioned russia and china for being caught helping NK?


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It was obvious. He went on some major Twitter rant and talked about and blamed everyone for damned near everything. But not one word spoken about Russia.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
It was obvious. He went on some major Twitter rant and talked about and blamed everyone for damned near everything. But not one word spoken about Russia.


you know who also noticed?



this guy, who trump supporters seem to hate...for whatever reason lol.

listen to the break down. no wonder people want him gone from fox news. too much facts for them to process.


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It seems there's only two ways to end up being fired from FOX News. Tell the truth or sexually assault someone.


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Former Skadden Lawyer Accused in Russia Investigation of Making False Statements

By EILEEN SULLIVAN and KENNETH P. VOGELFEB. 20, 2018

WASHINGTON — An attorney whose firm was accused of whitewashing abuses by the former president of Ukraine in cooperation with Paul Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman, has been charged with lying to the special counsel investigating Russian election interference.

The attorney, Alex van der Zwaan, worked in London for the prominent New York law firm Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom. He is accused of making false statements regarding communications he had with Rick Gates, a longtime associate of Mr. Manafort and a former Trump campaign aide, about work they did in 2012 for the Ukrainian government, according to court papers. Mr. van der Zwaan was to appear in court on Tuesday.

Both Mr. Gates and Mr. Manafort have been charged by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, with money laundering and violations of tax and lobbying laws and have pleaded not guilty. The investigation into the two men is centered on foreign lobbying work they did before they worked on Mr. Trump’s campaign.

Though Mr. Manafort was not mentioned by name in the court document about Mr. van der Zwaan, the history between Mr. Manafort and the law firm suggests that the special counsel has cast a wide net in investigating Mr. Manafort’s business relationships around the world.

Mr. Manafort’s relationship with Skadden dates to years before his work on the Trump campaign. He enlisted the firm in his effort to shield a client, Viktor F. Yanukovych, the Russia-aligned president of Ukraine, from international condemnation.

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Mr. Manafort asked Skadden to draft a report that critics have said essentially whitewashed Mr. Yanukovych’s human rights record. One day after its release, a State Department official called it “incomplete,” saying that it “doesn’t give an accurate picture” and that the State Department was concerned that “Skadden Arps lawyers were obviously not going to find political motivation if they weren’t looking for it.”

The law firm’s work was being investigated by Ukraine’s top prosecutor, which asked the Department of Justice for help in questioning eight lawyers who the Ukrainians believed were involved, including Mr. van der Zwaan, according to documents reviewed by The New York Times.

It is unclear what role Mr. van der Zwaan played in crafting the report. According to a report last year in the Kiev Post, Mr. van der Zwaan served as a go-between for the Skadden team that went to Ukraine for its report.

Ukraine’s prosecutor also wanted to question Skadden’s lead lawyer on the report, Gregory B. Craig, who served as President Barack Obama’s White House counsel, as well as Clifford M. Sloan, who also worked in the Obama administration.

In a statement, Skadden said: “The firm terminated its employment of Alex van der Zwaan in 2017 and has been cooperating with authorities in connection with this matter.” Mr. Craig and Mr. Sloan both declined to comment.

Mr. van der Zwaan’s expertise at the law firm was in congressional investigations and government policy, according to a biography once on the law firm’s website that has been taken down.

A speaker of Russian, Dutch, English and French, Mr. van der Zwaan also is the son-in-law of a wealthy Russian, German Khan, who was on a roster of oligarchs named in a recent Treasury Department list of prominent Russians with links to President Vladimir V. Putin.

The request by the Ukrainian prosecutor was part of a criminal corruption investigation into the government of Mr. Yanukovych. The Ukrainian general prosecutor alleged that Mr. Yanukovych’s government circumvented contracting rules by initially agreeing to pay Skadden a fee that was less than the threshold for competitive bidding — reportedly about $12,000 — then later paying the firm a total of nearly $1.1 million.

In court documents in the Ukranian case, Mr. Manafort is identified as having facilitated the contract for the law firm.

Skadden has not answered questions about the payments it received for the Ukrainian work. But last year, after the Justice Department began inquiring about it, Skadden refunded to the Ukrainian government $567,000 — about half of the total it was reportedly paid. The firm told The Times last year that the refund represented “the balance of Ukraine’s payment, which had been held in escrow for future work.”

Skadden has defended its work on the report, casting it as independent, and pointing out that it criticized Mr. Yanukovych’s government for denying a political rival, the former Ukrainian prime minister, Yulia V. Tymoshenko, “basic rights under Western legal standards” during a corruption trial.

The Skadden report was used to push back on international critics who charged that Mr. Yanukovych’s prosecuted Ms. Tymoshenko’s case, which resulted in a 2011 conviction and jail time, for political reasons and without sufficient evidence.

Mr. Manafort worked with other firms as well as part of his consulting work for Mr. Yanukovych. The Podesta Group, formerly led by a prominent lobbyist and Democratic donor, Tony Podesta, and Mercury Public Affairs have been subpoenaed by the special counsel’s office for records and testimony about the work they did for the European Center for A Modern Ukraine. Mr. Manafort referred the center, a nonprofit group based in Brussels that had done work with Mr. Yanukovych, to the other two Washington-based firms.

Last week, the special counsel’s office indicted 13 Russians and three companies for interfering in the 2016 United States election with a sophisticated influence campaign on popular social media platforms. An American, Richard Pinedo, of Santa Paula, Calif., also pleaded guilty to identity fraud regarding some bank accounts used by the Russians in their influence campaign.

Charlie Savage contributed reporting. Kitty Bennett contributed research.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/20/us/politics/alex-van-der-zwaan-gates-russia-mueller.html

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Now trump is blaming obama and Sessions for not investigating obama.

Its everybody else fault except Russia.

Trump supporters didn’t put in a leader. Hey put in a Hue Jackson. Blame everybody else but the guy in charge.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
No.

Because the moment the FBI acted on those tips, but the kid didn’t commit actual crimes, you would’ve been the first one saying they violated his 1st amendment rights.

It’s easier for the feds to catch Russians because the constitution doesn’t protect them.

It’s protects psycho American gun nuts, though.
Terroistic threats are against the law. they easily could have done something, next talking point please.

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No.

Because the moment the FBI acted on those tips, but the kid didn’t commit actual crimes, you would’ve been the first one saying they violated his 1st amendment rights.

It’s easier for the feds to catch Russians because the constitution doesn’t protect them.

It’s protects psycho American gun nuts, though.
Terroistic threats are against the law. they easily could have done something, next talking point please.


Apparently not. As the kid still bought a gun legally.


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