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http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=71937Driver sentenced for crash that killed young father PAINESVILLE -- An emotional sentencing in Painesville for a family who lost a loved one to a drunk driver. A judge sentenced Robert DeMarco to 12 years in prison for the October 2006 crash that claimed the life of 24-year-old Michael Kordos. In court, prior to sentencing, Kordos' family made an emotional plea to the judge to demand justice for Michael. They carried pictures of Michael's family, including the child his then pregnant wife was carrying that Michael never lived to see. Kordos was in a KIA Spectra with his pregnant wife and 18-month-old son when DeMarco's car hit them while they were sitting at a traffic light at State Route 44 and Interstate 90. Another car carrying a couple was hit by the Kordos' car. The couple in that car survived. Investigators say DeMarco was fleeing the scene of an earlier accident at State Route 44 and State Route 84. They say crossed into the median to get around slow traffic. According to police, DeMarco, who had a previous DUI conviction had been drinking with friends at a party prior to the crash. Witnesses told investigators several people tried to stop DeMarco from getting behind the wheel.
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Only 12 years, he should be stoned to death in public.  I love how people get all riled up over the punishment handed down to other people.
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Only 12 years, he should be stoned to death in public.
How about we just do to him, what he did to his victim.....crush him with a car.
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I love how people get all riled up over the punishment handed down to other people.
When justice isn't served, everyone SHOULD be upset.
This punk got off easy.
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As long as he does his whole bid then 12 years is good.
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Goodness I'm sort of agreeing with Tyler again.. I'll post this then go take a nap...
this is why emotion has no place in justice... It's awful that a young father was killed, it's awful that he had a second child on the way that he will never see.. it really is. But if the drunk driver had jumped the curb and killed a homeless person, nobody would be upset at 12 years in jail for it... heck nobody would probably even know about it because it wouldn't be "newsworthy"... But in the end, a life is a life... and 12 years sounds about right for the crime...
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Well, I believe that if you kill someone, you should be killed also.....regardless of who is killed.
Eye for an eye, but that will never happen in this messed up country.
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Well, I believe that if you kill someone, you should be killed also.....
Isn't that just common sense? 
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Well, I believe that if you kill someone, you should be killed also.....regardless of who is killed.
Eye for an eye, but that will never happen in this messed up country.
Well if that is your opinion and you apply it consistently, then good for you for at least being consistent... I, however, don't think this country is "messed up" because we don't immediately execute anybody and everybody who takes a life, even those who do it by accident...
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Well, I believe that if you kill someone, you should be killed also.....regardless of who is killed.
Isn't that just common sense?
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Well, I believe that if you kill someone, you should be killed also.....regardless of who is killed.
Isn't that just common sense?
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Why? If someone took somebody's elses life, why can't we take the killer's life for taking somebody's life?
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Well, I believe that if you kill someone, you should be killed also.....regardless of who is killed.
What if I killed osoma bin laden.....should I die?
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Because then you have to kill the person who took the killers life, and then someone has to kill that person, and then another and another, eventually the world would be void of all but the last person unless they adhere to the rule and kill themselves. 
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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12 years does not seem fair at all. The father is DEAD b/c of this jackass.
On a personal note - I know this accident too well. My brother was in his car heading to his girlfriend's and was the car RIGHT BEFORE this one that got hit. He saw it happen in his rear view mirror.
If that happened a few seconds sooner, you can beat that vigilantly justice would have prevailed if the court system would not.
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Because then you have to kill the person who took the killers life, and then someone has to kill that person, and then another and another, eventually the world would be void of all but the last person unless they adhere to the rule and kill themselves.
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even those who do it by accident...
I agree with everything you have said , except for this phrase!
He had a choice whether to drive or call a cab, or a friend!
Now if you are talking in general, and not about this one person, then I miss took what you said.
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Well, as I see it, you have 3 basic kinds... you have "accidents" which are sort of a no-fault thing... you have intentional murder... and in between you have negligent homicide, which lacks intent but is the result of something which was preventable....
This accident was the result of his negligence... but he didn't have the INTENT to hurt anybody... therefore it was an accident.
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Well, as I see it, you have 3 basic kinds... you have "accidents" which are sort of a no-fault thing... you have intentional murder... and in between you have negligent homicide, which lacks intent but is the result of something which was preventable....
This accident was the result of his negligence... but he didn't have the INTENT to hurt anybody... therefore it was an accident.
I think you're being very generous.
Negligent to me means you didn't repair the airplane as often as you should., or you didn't make sure your lifeguards know how to swim.
Lack of intent doesn't always mean negligent. if I walk out in my backyard and blast of my rifle 100 times with my eyes closed I may not intend to hurt anyone but my actions are very likely to.
This driver was much the same. It's obvious to anyone that driving at excessive speeds on the wrong side of the highway is extrememly likely to wind up with someone being severely hurt or killed.
His behavior was just plain wreckless and it killed a man and severely hurt his family.
Twelve years may be "legally appropriate" but I have a hard time calling it fair.
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I did not say execute them immediately. However, the appeals process needs to be revamped.
You get one appeal and it has to be made within one year.
No more of this 20 years on death-row BS.
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but he didn't have the INTENT to hurt anybody... therefore it was an accident.
That's the whole point. They may not have intended to kill someone, but the fact of the matter was that they did.
You kill, prepare to be killed.
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Stupidity should not necessitate a death sentence.
12 years is enough.
Heck I know a guy who killed his wife with a hammer, got a manslaughter charge and ended up doing about 3.5 years.
Their plan was, he was going to fracture her skull with a hammer so that they could get a prescription for more oxycontins.
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What if it's a complete and total accident? What if the person was doing everything right, slid on some black ice and took out a pedestrian and killed the person? You want that person killed?
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I'm sure BLADE would have no problem being the executioner either... I don't know how anyone could do that job...
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If he serves the full 12, and is NEVER allowed to have a license again, I'd be ok with that.
Not to change subjects (kinda), but maybe someone can explain to me how Leonard Little, Rams DE, was drunk driving back in (I think) 1998 and killed a woman. He got 90 days in a city workhouse and 4 years PROBATION and was back to playing again after an 8 game suspension. He took a life and got a slap on the wrist! On top of that, he got busted for drunk driving AGAIN only a couple years ago. Now something is wrong there.
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12 years is definitely NOT enough time! 
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From a personal perspective, I have no problem with drinking a bit and driving, working in bars for awhile and you see a lot of people will drink enough to blow over the limit and still drive.
As long as you go the speed limit and drive with the utmost attention to the road, then you are going to be fine.
Its when you are either driving at a reckless speed, or in a reckless matter; i.e. passing cars, speeding, listening to the radio, or talking on the celly, that you run into problems.
Usually, if I was drinking somewhat, then, if I have to drive, I may stop drinking a little bit before I go somewhere, and then when I drive I drive like an old lady, except I maintain the speed limit. Make all my turns and signals slow and deliberate. And its smoothe sailing.
So from this perspective I think that the problem isn't so much the drinking and driving part--its more of the "driving recklessly part."
Its funny, a lot of people say that its not the gun its the person who kills someone. And yet we view drunk driving like it was the alcohol and not the person that caused the accident.
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12 years in jail may not seem like much, but it is a huge chunk of someones life.
Not to mention he will have felony record, which will make getting a decent job difficult, he will be behind the times not to mention a black hole of references when applying.
Whenever someone finds out what he did, they will treat him differently, act different around him, watch him with one eye at all times.
He will most likely end up a ghost living in his parents basement when he gets out. Not to mention the guilt and shame he will carry with him forever.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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12 years is definitely NOT enough time!
What was he charged with and what are the sentencing guidelines? For all we know he could have recieved the max sentence. Maybe the laws should be changed for this kind of incident.
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What if it's a complete and total accident? What if the person was doing everything right, slid on some black ice and took out a pedestrian and killed the person? You want that person killed?
If that person slid on some black ice, then it is thill their fault. They failed to control their vehicle. They should have allowed more stopping distance.
I'm sick of hearing:
"I got into an accident because my brakes are bad."............Then you shouldn't have been on the road.
"I got into an accident because my tires are bad."............Then you shouldn't have been on the road.
Stop making excuses and take some freakin' responsibility.
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I'm sure BLADE would have no problem being the executioner either... I don't know how anyone could do that job...
I would do it under the condition that I could sit through the trial and see, for myself, what the person did.
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If that person slid on some black ice, then it is thill their fault. They failed to control their vehicle. They should have allowed more stopping distance.
So they should be executed?
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Yes. They should know that there is a possibility that there is ice that you can't see on the road before they ever get in the car.
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Its funny, a lot of people say that its not the gun its the person who kills someone. And yet we view drunk driving like it was the alcohol and not the person that caused the accident.
Tyler D -- THAT was the best thing I've ever seen you post,....
As to the PROBLEM,...as a society, we don't WANT to either pay for, nor be subjected to a car that won't start via a "breathylyzer." The PROBLEM is this guy was driving, period. How does that happen when our system won't allow us to legislate common sense ??
If I say, put a "chip" in his forearm that would never allow him to start a car, I'm violating HIS right to privacy ?? When does MY/YOUR right to be protected from these idiots ever come into play. It doesn't, and that is the problem.
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Investigators say DeMarco was fleeing the scene of an earlier accident at State Route 44 and State Route 84. They say crossed into the median to get around slow traffic.
If it would have been an accident then 12 years would be fair IMO. But he had one DUI already, he was already in one accident and was fleeing the scene, and driving like an idiot, so NO 12 years was not fair. 25 to 30 years maybe but not 12.
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What if it's a complete and total accident? What if the person was doing everything right, slid on some black ice and took out a pedestrian and killed the person? You want that person killed?
If that person slid on some black ice, then it is thill their fault. They failed to control their vehicle. They should have allowed more stopping distance.
I'm sick of hearing:
"I got into an accident because my brakes are bad."............Then you shouldn't have been on the road.
"I got into an accident because my tires are bad."............Then you shouldn't have been on the road.
Stop making excuses and take some freakin' responsibility.
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I don't even really think "lockup" -- no matter how long, is good enough. Having killed someone for his own mistake is on his conscience forever.
But, it doesn't SOLVE the real problem,...
Make him drive a free "to-and-from-the bar" taxi service for drunks, for the rest of his life.
Now that's some PUNISHMENT,...!!
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12 years is fine just as long as he's never allowed to get behind the wheel of a vehicle ever again once he gets out.
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Not to condescend, but how you gonna stop THAT ,..???
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Glad someone asked that. I wonder that myself all the time about some of these folks that get their liscenses suspended for DUI's.
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to everyone that's outraged that this guy 'only' got 12 years: many people in similar situations get off with a slap on the wrist or a negligible amount of jail time. I'm surprised that nobody has brought this point up.
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