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Did you hear him mention that Lousville runs the Erhardt system....same system as Haley.

Not saying he would be the choice but it would ease his transition.

hypothetically, how would you think Haley would run the offense with Lamar as QB?

Probably with Saquon right next to him. The RPO with our offensive talent would be unreal.

That's an exciting thought.
O'Brien with the Texans also runs the Erhardt system.

I imagine Haley would begin with the concepts that he ran well in Louisville then expand from there with a sprinkle of zone-read and RPOs (which Petrino didn't run).

But that offense and this team needs WRs.

We would be unstoppable.

NOW do you believe me?

3 MONTHS ago I told you that some we're questioning whether he would be better off at WR in the NFL.

Now NFL PEOPLE are bringing it to light.

Drop the Love Affair and start looking at the REAL QB's in this draft.

Darnold and Rosen.

I didn’t say they weren’t.

I’ve always said he’s a QB NOT a WR.

Lamar Jackson: 'No teams have asked me to play wide receiver'

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...y-wide-receiver

I was really looking forward to watching Lamar Jackson work the drills at the combine. Too bad he didn't participate.

he was up and down in the drills with the WR.

Now I love that he didn't run:



https://twitter.com/sportingnews/status/969992606901002240

I love this guy.

He really had some ugly, ugly throws today. It's not a huge deal, but considering there are questions about his accuracy, that performance probably hurt him a bit.

he also had some really good throws.

Yes, he did.

i this is a jackson thread, but what did you think of mayfield?

i thought he'd look better than he did.

That and I question the judgement of a guy who uses his mom as his agent. He should get an agent to steer him through the process. The agent has skin in the game to get him drafted as high as possible. Not sure how he'd be screwed.


I mean, what high level qb used their mom?

My moms my most trusted advisor in life, but not professionally. She doesn't know anything about tugboats. What does jacksons mom know about the NFLDraft?

so now we're using the mom as a knock on the guy?

his mom has been his mom all his life, right? didn't he also win the heisman with his mom in the corner?

man yall tried to blast me for some of my comments about Rosen, yet this is right on up there.

I was mowing the lawn and didn't get to see Mayfield and Rosen throw today. What did you think of both?

LoL. Dude. My mom has been my mom my whole life, and in my corner too.

He won a heisman with Bobby Petrino too FYI. That was his football expert.

Seems to me he ought to get a draft expert to go along with his mom. That's what I'd do. I would assume that's what all the other top QBs are doing, and what they've done in the past.


You can have more than one advisor, having one who is a specialist in what you're doing makes a lot of sense.

Rosen threw three of the best deep balls I saw. He came back and than threw what appeared to be three clunkers on outs. I wasn't watching close enough to tell if there were issues with the receiver's routes. Mayfield showed impressive arm strength. Overall today I would say Allen and Mayfield were most impressive. That being said, I still like Rosen.

that Rosen, from just a pure passing ability standpoint, is definitely #1.

he's the only one who separated himself. imo, everybody else is still in the same bubble.

Mayfield....uhh...i know 40 times aren't suppose to really matter for QB's, but i think you understand that i was disappointed that he's barely faster than Rosen.

Rosen actually surprised me, so i have to give him major props. he has some wheels for being way bigger than mayfield.

Rosen throws were nice. people talk about the WR and some of the throws being off, but i mean these guys never played with these WRs, so as mayock said, its more about the placement of the throws and footwork.

and thats why i now have it as:

Rosen
Jackson
Allen
Mayfield

man....i really like mayfield, but people talk about some of jacksons throws today, at least his following throws were placed well. Mayfield kept throwing a bit short on some of the throws. i dunno. the long balls were nice, but some of the placement on the actual route throws were questionable, at least to me.

and with a lot of his game being based on scrambling and moving outside the pocket, with much faster players in the nfl, i dunno if he will work out, at least on this team.

basically, and i might be the minority on this, manziel was a better prospect.

Yeah. If we were drafting just on combine performances Josh Allen was the best today. I still have him behind Darnold and Rosen.

Thanks to you and PDawg for the info.

He was throwing with NO PRESSURE and AGAINST AIR ... that is a HUGE DEAL ... the ball shouldn’t hit the ground ...

He can’t hit the broad side of a barn ...

Say hello to Slash the 2nd ...

I thought that Rosen had some good, and some not so good throws. Allen looked good overall. Mayfield's arm looked stronger than I thought it was.

Darnold, I think, hurt himself a little by not competing, and by saying that he will not change his throwing motion at all. He needs to make some adjustments to improve the turnover issues he's had. He is almost saying that he will not accept coaching, and that's likely not going to fly with guys like Haley and Jackson.

j/c:

Swish brought this up on another thread. While Lamar made some bad throws, it was usually his first throw in the drill and then he would come back w/a much better throw.

He seems to be a good dude and I am rooting for him. I just don't want us to draft him.

So agents are the reason why these young talented athletes get drafted high? Interesting.

Of course not, but it certainly is a help and reassurance.

These kids themselves are obviously the reason they get drafted high. Put hot fudge on a turd and it's obviously still a turd. Who they are as people, luck (not getting injured and getting a chance), their work ethic, and most importantly; god given ability (is what gets them drafted so high).



All i'm saying is that it would seem to me that having an agent, someone who knows how the draft process works and has a plan in place to maximize your draft stock; might make sense


Maybe his mom did her homework, i dunno. But it seems to me, that I'd be looking at what the guys do who were drafted 1 or 2; and i'd be doing something similar.


It's fine, think what you want, but I would think that many moms would tell their son that they should probably seek a professional to help them through the process. After-all, a few draft slots is a matter of a decent amount of money

Nothing wrong with pushing the middle man out.

All Lamar needs is a good trainer, and a good contract lawyer.

I think Lamar should have run a 40. Even though people already know he's fast its always good to reinforce the strengths of your game.

I get that he didn't want to feed into the WR talk but not running a 40 seems like an extreme in the other direction.

His agent could have handled all this stuff before the combine.

Agreed. That's why I was surprised he didn't throw the ball better today. I thought Allen clearly had the best throwing session today but how much does that mean in comparison to the tape? Rosen hands down on film.



I'm meh on the QBs 40 times. Baker clearly has more functional mobility on the field.


I did not think Lamar threw the ball well enough today to help himself. A good throwing session would have been good for him. A couple out routes were high, behind on a slant, had a duck on a deep ball, was careful with his footwork. He seemed like he was aiming his passing early on (3-step) but settled in on the 5-7 step stuff.
But that also puts him in the same boat as the dudes not named Allen today. Rosen bounced one short on the turf on a slant. Baker footwork was all over the place and despite what I've heard his arm strength was average. Its funny the QB that was the least accurate on film (Allen) had the best throwing session.


Yeah, you're probably alone on that one.

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I saw Rosen LIVE vs. Colorado and he looked about as mobile as Bernie Kosar.

Bernie couldn't run, but he knew how to move in the pocket, feeling pressure, and could buy times with his feet.(and brains)

Tom Brady isn't mobile, ether - sorry that I'm going there haha - but he processes fast and has vision, and awareness of space and time.

a lot of QB's have bad throws to start the game.

including the greats.

Please Please Do Not Draft Lamar Jackson ...

Lamar Jackson - QB - Player

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports one NFL team said at the Combine that it has Louisville's Lamar Jackson rated as this year's No. 2 quarterback prospect.

It's a testament to just how varied quarterback rankings can be from team to team; some NFL clubs allegedly wanted to see Jackson work out at wide receiver at the Combine, while this particular organization has Jackson ranked as a top-two quarterback prospect. Jackson remains one of this year's biggest draft wild cards. He could go as early as the top 15, or fall into day two.

Source: Adam Schefter on TwitterMar 5 - 5:17 PM

I thought McDaniels turned down the HC gig ... ...