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I wonder how they will spin this one? Or, will they just ignore it?

I wonder how they will spin this one? Or, will they just ignore it?

We will still see posts about how we should not draft him because he doesn't want to be here. Maybe not as often, as that seems to have died down, but I would be surprised to not see a post along those lines again.

My guess is ignore. Too hard to spin. We will still see posts about how we should not draft him because he doesn't want to be here. Maybe not as often, as that seems to have died down, but I would be surprised to not see a post along those lines again.

As has been said, if he truly did not want to play for Cleveland, he could have avoided it by staying in school another year. He knew we had the #1 pick, and he knew he would be in the discussion for the #1 pick.

Josh Rosen, UCLA

Can he be the face of a franchise? Rosen may be the most polarizing prospect in the draft. Many scouts regard him as the class' most talented quarterback. He's picturesque fundamentally, accurate as a passer, crazy smart. But he's a complex, strong personality and rubs some people the wrong way. "The biggest hole in his makeup is, can he endear himself to his teammates?" an NFC executive said. "And I think that was a challenge for him at UCLA. When he had, let's just say, less-intelligent receivers or a less-intelligent group of quarterbacks, he made them feel like s---." An AFC scout said Rosen wasn't known as an easy guy to coach, either. "He never thought that those guys were doing anything for him," the scout said. "He always thought he was doing something for them." He's blunt and can come across as a know-it-all. Skeptics bring up names such as Jay Cutler and Jeff George. Still, scouts who tracked Rosen throughout his career say he matured during his college career. The party antics of his freshman year abated. He worked harder. He was the leader of the offense. Teammates competed for him, and some liked that he took a stand publicly on controversial issues. "I think everything that's out there about the kid is a little overblown," an NFC scout said. "I know he enjoyed the nightlife a little bit, but what are the major concerns there? Because he had a hot tub on social media? Because he said some real stuff that people are afraid to say about collegiate athletes getting exploited by the NCAA? I guarantee you a lot of old-school evaluators will be like, 'Forget this kid. He's an arrogant, rich, d-----bag.' And some other people will be like, 'Man, this guy was a 4.8 student coming out of high school, he's a 3.5 econ major at UCLA, he's thinking beyond football, he's trying to be the mogul-type guy.' He wants to be successful, so I feel like he's going to do what's necessary."

What does the medical report look like? Rosen has a leaner frame at 6-4, 218, and he has been beat up. Shoulder surgery ended his sophomore season in 2016. He left a game this past season with a finger injury, had two concussions and was held out of the Bruins' bowl game. "That'd be the one guy I'll be really concerned with (medically)," an AFC scout said, "to see where they view the concussions, how many concussions he really had, and then where his shoulders are structurally." Scouts say Rosen's movement within the pocket is excellent, but he's not blessed with great mobility, either. He's a pocket passer. One scouting director said the tape makes him question how Rosen will respond, not only physically, but mentally, to getting knocked around in the NFL. "If you hit him a couple times, I think he might shrink," the scout said.

I know NFL folks have concerns about Josh Rosen's durability bc of his past injuries, but from talking to Pac-12 DCs I know they don't doubt his toughness at all after seeing him get blitzed 46 times in a game and kept getting back up.

Thanks for posting all of these reports on the various QBs.

If I hear one more stupid commentator utter the false narrative that Josh Rosen has an attitude problem I’m going to throw up on the TV set. Stop. It’s not true.

Again I will repeat myself. Hue very early in the process let ut be known Rosen was his guy. I never forgot that.

Ya ... he looks a lot less frail now ... ...

Now that is a shame isnt it

Whether you remember or not will not change a thing.

Thanks for the article. I really hope we take this guy. He's the best QB in the draft.

Thanks for the article. I really hope we take this guy. He's the best QB in the draft.

It's probably just confirmation bias, but I don't see any of these guys even being close to Josh Rosen after this week.

Agreed. I thought his interview showed maturity, and I don't think the combine is going to move these guys much.

Unfortunately there's things we don't get to see. Mostly the medical evaluation.

Otherwise, he's my choice. Like he said. Accuracy and anticipation.

I'm not worried about this love of football. I think he has a desire to be the best. That's what's important.

The only concern I would have with Rosen is his concussions. I really like his play. Need to really check his medical history with concussions. How many concussions has he actually had? How severe? How long was his recovery time?

Once a person gets a concussion it becomes easier and easier and easier to get more and they get more severe each time. This is a huge concern that cannot be dismissed.

j/c

I just wonder how many people actually believe that some of these kids haven't had concussions? If you've played football for years, you've had concussions, period. Just because they haven't been made public or recognized doesn't mean they didn't happen.

Rosen just threw 3 ridiculous deep balls.

Sam Darnold PERIOD.

Is this enough arm for everyone?

https://twitter.com/Browns/status/970008480475070464



https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/970005814202290176

Didn't get to see the deep throws by him or Mayfield but the out patterns were three misses by Rosen.