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Dorsey says he is willing to trade out of the top spot and his door is open and will listen to all offers. Sounds like he has no idea who to take first overall and just wants out of the top spot.
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Or he's keeping all options open, which would be smart. Go Browns!!!
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If he did I hope he would not go lower than 6 and the Jets but it will cost them ... I would say #6 their 2nd and 3rd This year and their #1 next year Our #1 is worth 3,000 points according to Walter football NFL draft value chart, the Jets 1, 2, and 3 this year are 2,360 giving us their #1 next year and maybe another future pick ... 
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I think Dorsey was blowing smoke. How has trading down and aquiring extra picks worked out for the Browns? We are coming off 1-31 and still are looking for our franchise QB. We have drafted near the top of the draft for years and what do we have to show for it? Last place in the division every year. We need quality impact players. Why is that so hard to understand? All we have been doing is planning for next year but next year never comes. Losing along with coaching and front office changes, that is our idenity.
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Or he's keeping all options open, which would be smart. Go Browns!!! Yep... I'd prefer we take our QB there... but with the fourth pick we can look at options of trading either...
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Dorsey says he is willing to trade out of the top spot Not. Happening.
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If you like a QB, and think he can be your QB for a longish period of time, you take him first overall. Is it possible that there is no QB the front office feels that way about? I guess. If that's the case trade the pick for sure.
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I am quickly coming to the conclusion that trading the number 1 under ALMOST any circumstance would be a mistake. If we dont know what QB to take or think none are worth the #1 then take Barkley and whom ever remains at #4.
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I am quickly coming to the conclusion that trading the number 1 under ALMOST any circumstance would be a mistake. If we dont know what QB to take or think none are worth the #1 then take Barkley and whom ever remains at #4. We can get the RGIII trade if we trade out of the #1 pick.
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Instead of trading down I would much prefer he trades up to #2 from #4. I really want Barkely. He just ran a 4.41 forty at over 230 pounds. Faster than Fournette and Zeke. He's humble and smart and everything you want in a player. He would be any quarterbacks best friend. Yes, it is nice to have two first round picks every year but for the first time, we have two top five picks. I say we use them and get two top five players. If there isn't a QB that they are SURE is our guy? Take Barkely at #1 and the best player available at #4.
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I am quickly coming to the conclusion that trading the number 1 under ALMOST any circumstance would be a mistake. If we dont know what QB to take or think none are worth the #1 then take Barkley and whom ever remains at #4. We can get the RGIII trade if we trade out of the #1 pick. I don't think so. There is no consensus #1 QB this year. Now, if someone offers the sun moon and stars we would be foolish not to trade out, but just an average trade? NO. As dawgfan says if you don't like any of the quarterbacks take Barkely and the BPA at #4. Either Fitz or whomever.
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Of course, is some teams offers us an RG III type of package we may not be able to say no.
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When the talk of trading comes up,the mantra of every Brown's FO person should be; one and thirty-one,one and thirty-one,one and thirty-one.
That will change their outlook.
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Of course, is some teams offers us an RG III type of package we may not be able to say no. If we don't like a QB.
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I am quickly coming to the conclusion that trading the number 1 under ALMOST any circumstance would be a mistake. If we dont know what QB to take or think none are worth the #1 then take Barkley and whom ever remains at #4. We can get the RGIII trade if we trade out of the #1 pick. I don't think so. There is no consensus #1 QB this year. Now, if someone offers the sun moon and stars we would be foolish not to trade out, but just an average trade? NO. As dawgfan says if you don't like any of the quarterbacks take Barkely and the BPA at #4. Either Fitz or whomever. Someone always falls in love with a QB.
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Just read Barkley's official time was 4.40 and that is at 233 lbs. Almost no way I'm trading the #1 overall now. It would be Qb or Barkley.
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I would PROBABLY trade with the Jets for the #6, both their 2nd rounders, 2019 1st, and 2020 1st. Even then only if there wasn't a consensus in the building about #1 pick.
Anything short of that or later than #10 overall and I wouldn't even consider it.
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For the Browns at this time trading out of the first pick would in my opinion be a colossal mistake.
We have the opportunity to select what we feel would be a player that could impact this roster for the most part of a career.
We have picks. We have excessive cap money.
What we desperately need are impact players.
Sure you listen. But in the end use the pick.
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If we did I would hope that is because we duped the Giants n get their 2nd round pick n their overall#2.
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I would not trade #1 overall .... but I would listen if the Broncos and/or Jets called at #4. If we can fleece a team that is likely to take a QB at 4, to trade down a spot or 2, why not?
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Dorsey says he is willing to trade out of the top spot and his door is open and will listen to all offers. Sounds like he has no idea who to take first overall and just wants out of the top spot. Imo sounds like he's supposed to sound. Certainly wouldn't want him to come out and say "no chance we trade out so I wish the other teams would stop offering/asking us". Lotta smoke out there this time of year. A lotta smoke. Jmho
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I think we keep the pick, take barkly at #1, then one of the QB's at 4.
I think Dorsey likes Allen and Mayfield. I doubt both go at #2 and #3. Probably neither. If so, we have to settle for Darnold or Rosen.
Let's see how the FA signings go. I think those will provide a clue as to where we might lean in the draft.
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I would not trade #1 overall .... but I would listen if the Broncos and/or Jets called at #4. If we can fleece a team that is likely to take a QB at 4, to trade down a spot or 2, why not? Actually, #4 could be a pivot point making it a very hot pick. If we do go QB at #1, we could gain a great deal, and not drop all that far. I don't want to give up Fitz, but teams won't be moving up for him...he might go to the 6 hole if we traded with the Jets.
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I think we keep the pick, take barkly at #1, then one of the QB's at 4.
I think Dorsey likes Allen and Mayfield. I doubt both go at #2 and #3. Probably neither. If so, we have to settle for Darnold or Rosen.
Let's see how the FA signings go. I think those will provide a clue as to where we might lean in the draft. After a combine that shows what a complete freak of nature Saquan is I no longer want to trade out of #1. I want this guy no matter what. There will be a good QB at #4 but there is no replacement for Saquan. We take him at #1 and whatever QB is left at #4 and we will have the best HB in the draft and we will have a great QB because there are easily 4-5 QBs that are going to be good QBs for years to come in this draft and at #4 we are guaranteed to get one of them. At worst we can make a trade and move up to #3 to get who isn't taken at #2. I just don't want to risk not getting Saquan. PERIOD.
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I am leaning that way myself. A few days ago I mentioned Chubb as a possibility at #1, but now with the speed and other numbers Bark has put up, I want him.
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It's time to let our Dawgs have a Bark! No more quiet little doggies who just play dead. Nice thing is this Bark has a LOT of BITE!
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Rosen at one. People way overvalue the Combine.
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For some, no doubt.
When you have a player who has the tape, and then checks all the boxes in a big way concerning the measurable's, I don't know how that is being over valued.
Give it a few days and I might be back to my first position that we can get a darn good back in round two.
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I thought Barkley would run a faster 40. Others have said that he drifted a bit with both runs, so maybe he tops it on his Pro day. I still wouldn't take him at 1 with a need at QB. Not with the depth in this draft at RB.
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Surprised you would say that.
Not that I don't love the Quon. I think he is all that.
But we have to get the quarterback that the FO believes is the man.
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Rosen at one. People way overvalue the Combine. I'm sure either Rosen or Darnold will be there at 4 and maybe both if we take Saquan 1st No need to over compensate with the QB thing. And in my opinion, and although I like Rosen more, I couldn't think of a player with worst fit with the Browns... He's the opposite of a Browns player in many senses....
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I think we keep the pick, take barkly at #1, then one of the QB's at 4.
I think Dorsey likes Allen and Mayfield. I doubt both go at #2 and #3. Probably neither. If so, we have to settle for Darnold or Rosen.
Let's see how the FA signings go. I think those will provide a clue as to where we might lean in the draft. After a combine that shows what a complete freak of nature Saquan is I no longer want to trade out of #1. I want this guy no matter what. There will be a good QB at #4 but there is no replacement for Saquan. We take him at #1 and whatever QB is left at #4 and we will have the best HB in the draft and we will have a great QB because there are easily 4-5 QBs that are going to be good QBs for years to come in this draft and at #4 we are guaranteed to get one of them. At worst we can make a trade and move up to #3 to get who isn't taken at #2. I just don't want to risk not getting Saquan. PERIOD. He is so much better than all the rest of the guys... I think its obvious and the easy pick. We took MG last year, so there is hope....
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Surprised you would say that.
Not that I don't love the Quon. I think he is all that.
But we have to get the quarterback that the FO believes is the man. I think they will. What if they think their guy will be there at #4? To me it is a small gamble because a pretty good consultation prize will be there. There seems to be 4 names at the top of the QB rankings. None are totally standout guys. Just because we need a QB doesn't mean we need to be stupid blind. If we pass on QB at #1, only 2 of the top 4 named guys could possibly be drafted. We are still going to have a choice of a good player.
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Instead of trading down I would much prefer he trades up to #2 from #4. I really want Barkely. He just ran a 4.41 forty at over 230 pounds. Faster than Fournette and Zeke. He's humble and smart and everything you want in a player. He would be any quarterbacks best friend. Yes, it is nice to have two first round picks every year but for the first time, we have two top five picks. I say we use them and get two top five players. If there isn't a QB that they are SURE is our guy? Take Barkely at #1 and the best player available at #4. I agree.
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After two years of losing at a historic rate in order to be positioned to have the #1 overall pick in this draft, I can't think of anything more Browns to do than trading that pick.
Trading the pick will not happen.
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Surprised you would say that.
Not that I don't love the Quon. I think he is all that.
But we have to get the quarterback that the FO believes is the man. Well I think of it this way. Is there a QB that is head and shoulders above everyone else OR are there 3 QBs that you can be great with no matter which one you take? I think there are 3 to 4 bonafide QBs that will make great QBs for us. If you land either Darnold, Rosen, Mason, or Mayfield then you have a great QB. How much better is your offense though with Saquan and any of those QBs vs just grabbing a QB at #1. I would rather have anyone of those QBs with Saquan than one of those QB without Saquan. I don't think Saquan makes it to pick 4. IF we take Saquan at #1 there is a 100% chance that one of those 4 QBs will be available. It just makes sense to grab such a dynamic playmaker that you just can't pass on him.
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There’s a reason we’ve got the #1 pick in the draft. We don’t have a QB. We trade out or take Barkley and we can get our QB next year when we are picking #1 again!!
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We will trade up into first round from the second, if anything. We don't need a tonne more picks, we need players.
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1. I like the way you snuck Mason in that list while there still is no Mock nkr analyst that have him at top 5 let alone 4.
2. Dorsey/Hue/Haley have one priority in this draft...GET OUR GUY!!! The priority will be taken at #1.
3. We will not class this as a 3 horse race and our top priority to leave it up to what the other guys leave for us to take. Sorry no. We will fall in love with one of them of which I can guarantee is not Mason. We will take said QB overall #1
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