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You could do worse. I drive a Ford.

well certainly not a Ford.

i like the sports cars. I'll take the Vette over anything Ford has, even the GT because the Vette is more street friendly.

the Camaro's are capable of smoking entry level supercars.

for me it's Dodge, Chevy, kia's built in America , then Ford lolololol.

I took more pride in "Driving American" when I had my Saturn than I do now driving a Ford lmao

lmfao omg bro. i miss them

Im partial -

I think Ford has the best trucks on the road - cars not so much.

Chevy has had too many problems recently for my liking, but Camaro > Mustang. **I do own a 92 Corvette, so I cant say too many bad things about chevy. I just don't like their new lines of vehicles.

The Vette is a class of its own though - Im talking more of basic everyday vehicles.

I like Dodge (currently have one) too, but I would take a F150 over a Ram. I would take a Dart over its
Ford counterpart (Fusion or fiesta I guess).

Carl Icahn unloaded millions in steel-related stock days before Trump tariff

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/icahn-sold-millions-in-steel-related-stock-days-before-trump-tariff/

surprise surprise

You rent that manure spreader out to farmers in the spring?

The greatest presidents built bridges.

If you want to enact change, don't charge your suppliers more. Build the infrastructure from within. Oil and the south

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/article203060969.html

Major Charlotte company puts expansion on hold after Trump announces new tariffs

Swedish appliance maker Electrolux Group, which bases its North American operations in Charlotte, said it’s putting on hold a planned expansion of a Tennessee factory as it evaluates tariffs on steel and aluminum imports announced Thursday by President Donald Trump.

Electrolux in January said it is investing more than $250 million in its Springfield, Tenn., facility, expanding production by adding 400,000 square feet for manufacturing. Construction was set to start in late 2018 and continue into 2020.

“Unfortunately, this tariff decision gives foreign appliance manufacturers a cost advantage that is hard to compete against,” the company said Friday. “We are evaluating the decision and are concerned enough about the negative financial impact that we are putting our $250 million Tennessee expansion on hold until the order is signed and final details are understood.”


Way to go Trump! Kill those jobs!

Colorado breweries have already laid people off, tax break for the 1%

Your trickle down economic approach is antiquated, and is self centered. We are now a global community. You represent the economic wealth of 5% Americans

I'm going to throw a huge party when trump is overthrown. This is not a slight at the Republican Party, but if trump exemplifies the United States, there is a good reason the rest of the world hates us.

You have a 92 Vette? What options? I've had a soft spot for years for the King of the Hill ZR1 C4, even though only die hard car nuts will know that it's a special Corvette.

Sports cars are out of my realm until my boys are older (sold the Viper last october) but I am actually having fun with my 6 speed Cadillac ATS... I can row through the gears and not be doing go to jail speeds!

Jc

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/02/us...ent-suggestions

Trump’s Tariffs Prompt Global Threats of Retaliation
By Ana Swanson

March 2, 2018
WASHINGTON — A day after President Trump took a swing at United States trading partners by threatening stiff and sweeping tariffs on steel and aluminum, they hit back. They promised to retaliate against quintessential American goods like Kentucky bourbon, bluejeans and Harley-Davidson motorcycles.

That is likely to turn into a wave of protest aimed at American products as other countries, including traditional allies, respond to Mr. Trump’s plan to clamp down on imports of metals from overseas.

Canada, China and the European Union have already said they would respond with tariffs of their own that could lead to billions of dollars in American export losses. Those levies would harm the farmers and business interests that the Trump administration has promised to protect and would fuel a trade fight that could undermine the president’s goal of strengthening American industry.

Li Xinchuang, the vice chairman of the China Iron and Steel Association, called the president’s move “stupid,” saying, “Trump’s decision does no good to everyone except a few American steel enterprises.”

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And John M. Weekes, Canada’s negotiator for the North American Free Trade Agreement in the early 1990s, said the president’s “notion is going down very badly in Canada.”

“It certainly will have a negative effect on our bilateral relationship,” he said.

American businesses are more tied to the global economy than ever before, and the Trump administration is seeking concessions from trading partners to put American companies on a more competitive footing. Negotiators from Canada, Mexico and the United States were meeting in Mexico City to hash out changes to Nafta, and Washington is trying to revise a trade deal with South Korea. The possibility of tariffs complicates both efforts.

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Mr. Trump appeared unmoved by the blowback, posting a series of Twitter messages on Friday defending his proposal to impose tariffs of 25 percent on steel and 10 percent on aluminum.

“We must protect our country and our workers. Our steel industry is in bad shape. IF YOU DON’T HAVE STEEL, YOU DON’T HAVE A COUNTRY!” Mr. Trump tweeted.


Yet the United States does not control the global economy, and the tariffs, which Mr. Trump is expected to sign next week, could incite other countries to challenge it at the World Trade Organization. If the organization rules against the United States, that will test the Trump administration’s willingness to follow global trade rules.

The tariffs rest on a little-used legal provision that allows Mr. Trump to restrict imports to try to bolster the American industrial base in the interest of national security. That power will face scrutiny by the World Trade Organization but, perhaps more significant, could prompt other countries to follow suit in using national security as a reason to wall off their markets.

American technology companies, agricultural producers and other industries could ultimately lose business abroad as nations seek to erect similar barriers.


Robert L. Shanks, Ford Motor’s chief financial officer, said commodities markets had already started to price in increases for steel and aluminum on the expectation that Mr. Trump would impose the tariffs. The effect on Ford, he said, is “not positive” given the automaker uses those metals in the cars they produce.

The European Union detailed a three-step plan to penalize $3.5 billion of American trade — the same amount of European steel and aluminum the bloc estimates would be harmed by the planned tariffs. It proposed taxing American exports including bourbon, bluejeans, orange juice, cranberries, rice and motorcycles. The European Union could then take action to protect their own metal makers from a surge in imports, and bring a case against the United States at the World Trade Organization.

A European Union official said that the bloc had been preparing for the announcement for months and that everything was in place for a swift, proportionate response.

The measures were intended to put pressure on politically sensitive areas, trade analysts said. Harley-Davidson motorcycles are made in the home district of Speaker Paul D. Ryan, Republican of Wisconsin. Orange juice comes from the swing state of Florida. Restrictions on Kentucky bourbon could add pressure on the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, who is from the state.

Retaliation could hit hardest in many of the rural communities that were strongholds for Mr. Trump. Farmers are among America’s largest exporters, and often become a target in trade spats, said Darci Vetter, the former chief agricultural negotiator for the United States trade representative. She said the agricultural community was “rightly nervous” about the prospect.

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Canada and Mexico were America’s No. 1 and No. 3 largest agricultural markets in 2016, and South Korea is a major market for beef, corn, pork and fresh fruit, Ms. Vetter said. The United States exports cotton to Turkey and wheat and dairy to Brazil, other major suppliers of steel.

Senator John Cornyn of Texas expressed concern on Friday that America’s trading partners might respond by imposing tariffs on agriculture, which he said would “devastate our agricultural communities.”

Other countries have been less specific, but no less emphatic, in their threats. Canada’s minister of foreign affairs, Chrystia Freeland, said that Canada stood ready to defend its trade interests, while the Australian trade minister, Steven Ciobo, said the tariffs would set off retaliatory measures that would hurt everyone.

American steel companies are a key constituency for Mr. Trump, who won the support of some blue-collar workers by pledging to revive United States industry. The steel industry has shed hundreds of thousands of jobs in the country in the past two decades, partly because of automation and partly because of a flood of production from China, which has driven down global prices to a level where some American mills cannot compete.

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American steel and aluminum companies were the loudest in applauding the president’s efforts to help their industries. Labor unions and Rust Belt politicians, including Democrats, commended Mr. Trump for fulfilling an important political promise he made during the campaign.

“Our view is we needed some relief on illegally traded products,” said John J. Ferriola, chairman, president and chief executive of Nucor Corporation. “Whatever the remedy, it had to be comprehensive trade relief.”

On Fox Business Network Friday morning, Peter Navarro, a top White House trade adviser, said he did not believe any country would retaliate, “for the simple reason that we are the most lucrative and biggest market in the world.”

“They know they’re cheating us, and all we’re doing is standing up for ourselves,” he added.

Mr. Trump’s announcement on Thursday was a clear signal to many observers that the pro-trade advisers in the Trump administration — who have tried to stay the president’s hand on tariffs and withdrawing from trade agreements — might have less influence than they believe. That could further fuel trade tensions and make it less likely that the United States will be able to reach the types of bilateral or multilateral agreements that have helped expand American exports.

Antonio Ortiz-Mena, a senior adviser at the Albright Stonebridge Group, said that if the United States was willing to impose penalties like these on its close trading partners, other countries would be less eager to negotiate trade deals with the United States. “What is the benefit of having a special relationship?” he asked. “I think there could be a lot of unintended and unforeseen consequences.”

Thomas Kaplan contributed reporting from Washington, Neal E. Boudette from Ann Arbor, Mich., and Patricia Cohen from New York.

Follow Ana Swanson on Twitter: @AnaSwanson. Get politics and Washington news updates via Facebook, Twitter and the Morning Briefing newsletter.

Trump fired back in a tweet Saturday.

"If the E.U. wants to further increase their already massive tariffs and barriers on U.S. companies doing business there, we will simply apply a Tax on their Cars which freely pour into the U.S.," he wrote. "They make it impossible for our cars (and more) to sell there."

The U.S. imported more than 1.2 million European cars from brands like BMW and Volkswagen in 2016, the most recent year for which data is available, according to the European Automobile Manufacturers Association.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/03/news/economy/trump-tariffs-cars-trade-war-europe/index.html

lol now i see why trump supporters don't care what this dude says. this is straight up fun to watch. the twitter wars, the back and forth, the 5th grade insults, the stock market going up and down, ticking off the europeans, ticking off the asians, ticking off the australians, ticking off south americans, ticking off africans, ticking off americans.

thankfully i buy my bimmers used now so i'm good!! but man oh man, raise tariffs on those brands? suburbia won't be too please about that!! lol this is great.

Eve buys Jag.

In before tariff!

Yes!

I'd guess this would [censored] off a lot of people. Americans have a distinct love for foreign cars. Unless you want a truck.

So put this on the pile of Trump fails.

The Ford Fiesta was the 4th best selling car in Europe last year, and 1st in the UK. Unfortunately for those who can't be bothered to do their own research, they will take what the President is stating as fact and believe that our cars don't sell in Europe. Opal(GM) also has a car in the top ten.

Heck, the Buick Verano was the 4th best seller in China last year. China buys so many Buicks it saved the brand back in 2008 when the government had GM cut back on it's number of marquees.

bro, my homeboys would get so much attention from women just because they were driving around in ram and f-150's. they love american cars over there.

I'm an American car guy because I love muscle cars (although Benz AMGs are close). So for me this won't impact my lusting over an ATS-V or CTS-V. Still, this tariff will just be the start. We tax steel, the world taxes US food, we tax their cars, they tax something else.

Hopefully we limit the countries impacted by the tariff.

I saw some Rams in Ireland. They towered over my Citreon rental

This topic is ironic. I was in my game's chat last night talking about cars with the british users. My question was why are all the taxis in europe mercedes

Ok ok I havent been to europe since pre euro. So what I saw is a little outdated. All the british people were like NOOOOO Our Taxis Are Fords

Lol

In Germany they are all Benz. It was crazy. The locals call them POS yet we was like “ummm this is better than my own car”.

I know, right? I went to Germany multiple times and kept seeing Mercedes taxis and was like wth.

I’m a Merican and I must like taxi’s, I own Fords.

I'm a millennial. What is a taxi?

Go to NYC and you'll find out.

I phoned a friend in Williamsburg and he told me it was a tv show.?

Here. I tied in taxis, uber, and europe all in one article.

https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2...-ruling/548873/

Think, motorized rickshaw.

Call me from a phone booth and I will tell you.

I knowd dem little chineese fella's was smart.

Well, being no mere mortal, allow me to say, "Told ya so!"

Trump signals he may drop tariffs if a 'fair' NAFTA agreement is signed
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/05/trump-sa...-is-signed.html

Yep, Trump looking for a way out of his self made mess, who knew? Nobody but you could have predicted that 40! Mere mortal... lol.

What gets me is that you believe this crap.

Your hate blinds you to what is clearly seen by others.

Don't try to suck me into your delusion! lol

What you saw was that you couldn't believe what Trump says. I hate to tell you this but most of us already knew that. I'm glad to see you're catching up though.

I hate to inform you this is how a Businessman negotiates.
You love the Politicians who swoon and tell you what you want to hear.
Those days are luckily behind us as the previous administration sold us out to Globalism.

I've heard lots of excuses for liars. This is a new one. I applaud you for your effort.

You should take a business course or read "Art of the Deal."

If you run that concrete business you talk about, I may invest in your competitors.

Why don't you just buy everyone hipwaders so we can read your posts without getting BS on us.

Keep making excuses for a liar. It suits you well. You obviously haven't read the Bible. It doesn't accept excuses for liars.