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Honestly at this point I think mueller and his group is a complete joke. What is the target date for the end of the investigation? How much is this whole thing costing again? Can't money be better spent elsewhere? Can we get a counsel to investigate mueller and his group themselves? Who are these people, why don't we ever hear from them and who is holding them accountable? I haven't heard a damn thing from them, put up or shut up at this point. If you don't have anything, stop wasting other people's money and time. I think it's completely ridiculous.
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1 How long did you think an investigation would take?
2 How much is it worth to the integrity of the country to determine what happened? Is it worth the same cost as Trump spending weekends in FL? More? Less? Do all the inconsistencies in so many senior Trump campaign team members cause you to worry or is that simply ok because Trump is naive and not a politician?
3 On what basis does Mueller - universally respected and admired by Republicans and Democrats before the appointment - need to be investigated?
4 On what basis do you think that they need to inform the public what their findings are? Would you like them to give anyone they are going after advance warnings of what they know?
5 Who says they don't have anything? Are you believing what Trump says? What Fox news says?
Just for comparison's sake - Watergate investigation took 2 years. TWO YEARS. And all the people involved were here in the USA. Maybe they should have left Nixon well enough alone after that investigation didn't turn anything up in a year?
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1 How long did you think an investigation would take?
2 How much is it worth to the integrity of the country to determine what happened? Is it worth the same cost as Trump spending weekends in FL? More? Less? Do all the inconsistencies in so many senior Trump campaign team members cause you to worry or is that simply ok because Trump is naive and not a politician?
3 On what basis does Mueller - universally respected and admired by Republicans and Democrats before the appointment - need to be investigated?
4 On what basis do you think that they need to inform the public what their findings are? Would you like them to give anyone they are going after advance warnings of what they know?
5 Who says they don't have anything? Are you believing what Trump says? What Fox news says?
Just for comparison's sake - Watergate investigation took 2 years. TWO YEARS. And all the people involved were here in the USA. Maybe they should have left Nixon well enough alone after that investigation didn't turn anything up in a year? There is a real difference. In Watergate a Crime was committed and that led to the scandal that followed. In this case there is a scandal that is in search of a crime.
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So in layman's terms Muellie is saying he aint got nothing at this point and needs a trac-hoe to dig deeper in hopes of finding something. This whole investigation is sounding like a Gold Rush TV episode...I might get rich if I just keep digging a little deeper....damn...still gonna have to go deeper....awe shucks...deeper yet
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only in dillusional trump land could conservatives claim there's nothing to see here after how many indictments have already been handed out?
yall aren't any better than the guys who swore up and down the titanic is unsinkable.
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only in dillusional trump land could conservatives claim there's nothing to see here after how many indictments have already been handed out?
yall aren't any better than the guys who swore up and down the titanic is unsinkable. Has there been an indictment yet that mattered as far as 'getting Trump'?
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only in dillusional trump land could conservatives claim there's nothing to see here after how many indictments have already been handed out?
yall aren't any better than the guys who swore up and down the titanic is unsinkable. Has there been an indictment yet that mattered as far as 'getting Trump'? ask flynn, manafort, gates, papadopoulos, and Nunberg who had to testify. its funny that yall clowned me for talking in absolutes about the election, and yet are now talking in absolutes about the investigation.
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Well, in fairness, you were wrong about the election.
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a lot of people were wrong.
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a lot of people were wrong. Correct.
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So in layman's terms Muellie is saying he aint got nothing at this point and needs a trac-hoe to dig deeper in hopes of finding something. This whole investigation is sounding like a Gold Rush TV episode...I might get rich if I just keep digging a little deeper....damn...still gonna have to go deeper....awe shucks...deeper yet No not at all. He's saying that he doesn't want to bring a few charges higher up if one of the other routes implicates those same people. Letting them go on an all out defensive media blitz before then because it might cause political backlash and possibly cause potential witnesses in those other routes to change they way they cooperate. It could also cause trump to fire Mueller or hand out pardons.
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So in layman's terms Muellie is saying he aint got nothing at this point and needs a trac-hoe to dig deeper in hopes of finding something. This whole investigation is sounding like a Gold Rush TV episode...I might get rich if I just keep digging a little deeper....damn...still gonna have to go deeper....awe shucks...deeper yet No not at all. He's saying that he doesn't want to bring a few charges higher up if one of the other routes implicates those same people. Letting them go on an all out defensive media blitz before then because it might cause political backlash and possibly cause potential witnesses in those other routes to change they way they cooperate. It could also cause trump to fire Mueller or hand out pardons. He knows he is over reaching...charges mean nothing if the evidence can’t convict....he is essentially say I have Bigley charges but I know no one woukd ever convict on the BS my charges are based on so I need to wait and find lesser chargers and evidence that I have a better chance of winning on....Prosecutors do this all the time with police....intentional over charge knowing their brothers in blue can be convicted based on evidence....mueller is just playing the opposite...
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He's saying nothing of the kind. You have no idea of what's going on inside that investigation so you can quit pretending like you do.
It would come as no surprise if he wants to complete the investigation before any charges against Trump are filed. I'm not saying that's what the outcome will be. Unlike you I'm not going to try and play the fool by pretending I do.
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Seems to many of us that the Left has been playing the fool for 18 months now as the Congress has shut down their investigation because they found zero evidence of Collusion and the Democrats say it is too soon but they can't put their finger on any evidence to support keeping this witch hunt going either.
We have all witnessed the leaks coming out of Mueller's office and there have been zero leaks of any evidence of Collusion.
The only evidence found has been to show who the real fools are, those snowflakes having a hissy fit because they got their heads handed to them in the election.
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Seems to many of us that the Left has been playing the fool for 18 months now as the Congress has shut down their investigation because they found zero evidence of Collusion and the Democrats say it is too soon but they can't put their finger on any evidence to support keeping this witch hunt going either.
We have all witnessed the leaks coming out of Mueller's office and there have been zero leaks of any evidence of Collusion.
The only evidence found has been to show who the real fools are, those snowflakes having a hissy fit because they got their heads handed to them in the election.
HA! And it would seem to many of us that the GOP has played the fool for the last 10 years! The Party of NO who tried our first black President in a court of bigotry and found him to be BLACK. And after all the Benghazi hearings, email hearings, birther allegations, etc.; not to mention the blocking at every possible turn, the GOP has no room to talk. Then you call us snowflakes as y'all have a melt down. laughable in every way!
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only in dillusional trump land could conservatives claim there's nothing to see here after how many indictments have already been handed out?
yall aren't any better than the guys who swore up and down the titanic is unsinkable. Has there been an indictment yet that mattered as far as 'getting Trump'? Nope. And maybe there won't be. That isn't the point. This isn't a get Trump at all costs deal - this is a find the source of the stench. The Russians influenced our election - that's a fact. It's possible and maybe even probable they influenced the outcome of the election. They have undermined the confidence people have in the election process .... and that is worth investigating unless your an ostrich or just a total Trump stooge. Flynn and Manafort are 2 people with close ties to the Trump campaign that are obviously going to be prosecuted as a result of the investigation ... The hand wringing by those worried it's going to lead to Trump is disingenuous.
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only in dillusional trump land could conservatives claim there's nothing to see here after how many indictments have already been handed out?
yall aren't any better than the guys who swore up and down the titanic is unsinkable. Has there been an indictment yet that mattered as far as 'getting Trump'? Nope. And maybe there won't be. That isn't the point. This isn't a get Trump at all costs deal - this is a find the source of the stench. The Russians influenced our election - that's a fact. It's possible and maybe even probable they influenced the outcome of the election. They have undermined the confidence people have in the election process .... and that is worth investigating unless your an ostrich or just a total Trump stooge. Flynn and Manafort are 2 people with close ties to the Trump campaign that are obviously going to be prosecuted as a result of the investigation ... The hand wringing by those worried it's going to lead to Trump is disingenuous. Well said.
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