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Per Ian Rapoport " One free agent to watch today: #Patriots LT Nate Solder. As of last night, it sounded like #Giants or #Texans… and there wasn’t a lot of optimism that he’d return to New England." https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/973879011163213824Wonder what this means in the Joe Thomas set of things. Oh and from Tony Grossi. Although he rarely has inside information it seems like "Editor's note: Tony Grossi covers the Cleveland Browns for ESPN 850 WKNR. Takeaways from the first day of NFL free agency (although nothing is official until Wednesday) … 1. Waiting on Joe: Joe Thomas said he would give the Browns an answer on his future by the start of free agency. So free agency unofficially started on Tuesday – dozens of players across the league reportedly agreed to terms with new teams – but there was no announcement from Thomas or the Browns. Is Thomas holding up the Browns’ plans? Hardly. The team reportedly agreed to deals with two veteran offensive tackles – Chris Hubbard of the Steelers (five years, $37.5 million, $18 million guaranteed) and Donald Stephenson of the Broncos (one year, $2.5 million). At an awards banquet at the Music Box Supper Club Tuesday night, Thomas declined to speak to quote-starved, waiting media and ducked out after the event through back channels. 2. The holdup: So what’s holding up Thomas’ seemingly inevitable retirement announcement? It’s all good. Recall that in November the Browns – then headed by Sashi Brown -- gave Thomas what amounted to “free money” as a gesture of their appreciation to his loyalty and the fact he was underpaid. He received a $1.5 million bonus at that time and a new $3 million added to the last year of his contract in 2018 in the form of a roster bonus payable on the fifth day of the new year, or March 19. If Thomas retires, the Browns conceivably could recoup a pro-rated portion of the bonus money. But if Thomas strings out his decision past March 19, he conceivably could earn the $3 million roster bonus and then perhaps retire after failing a physical at a later date. Although the Browns and Thomas have maintained there has been no decision made about Thomas’ future, there has been business conversation about how to handle his retirement financially. I’ve been told that the most likely scenario is the Browns will let Thomas keep the full $1.5 million signing bonus and Thomas will retire before the $3 million roster bonus is due. The team and Thomas are expected to jointly announce Thomas’ decision by the end of the week. GM John Dorsey is skipping pro day workouts of Baker Mayfield (Wednesday) and Josh Rosen (Thursday), largely due to free agency. 3. The heir-apparents: Although the Browns reportedly were still in the hunt for Patriots free agent Nate Solder – the only accomplished veteran left tackle available – their reported agreements with Hubbard and Stephenson gave them options to replace Thomas in the short term. Hubbard, 26, is an undrafted free agent success story of the Steelers who impressed many filling in at right tackle for Marcus Gilbert for 10 games last year. He’s undersized by today’s standards for left tackle at 6-4 and 286 pounds, but was given a starter’s contract, so he could move to right tackle. That would free up Shon Coleman to compete with Stephenson at left tackle. In the 2017 training camp, Thomas said that he could see Coleman as his eventual replacement. Stephenson, 6-6 and 312, is a former Kansas City third-round pick. Dorsey did not draft him – Dorsey arrived in Kansas City a year later – but he saw Stephenson make 26 starts at left and right tackle over the ensuing four seasons. In theory, Coleman and Stephenson could be joined by a high draft choice to compete in the 2018 training camp at left tackle. The rookie, however, would be a distant longshot." http://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland/post/...e-thomas-future
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At this stage, if JT hasn't informed the Browns his decision yet, the Browns just need to move on without him and cannot let him hold up the situation.
Plain and simple as that.
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At this stage, if JT hasn't informed the Browns his decision yet, the Browns just need to move on without him and cannot let him hold up the situation.
Plain and simple as that. Well, if we're out of the Nat Solder sweepstakes (either way), I figure, Joe can take all the time he needs to figure out where his body and mind are at in terms of playing the game. No need to rush him now
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Perhaps he did tell them. Perhaps, considering the 2 OT signings, he told them a few days/weeks ago.......on the QT. If he's done, how would it benefit them to announce a month ago? I wish, but imo he's not coming back. Will always remember, being a season tix holder, his after draft "meet Joe T" get together at the stadium. Phil Savage, etc. Got there very early and we were 3rd and 4th in line.  Yup. Very front table, 10' away from the goings on. Loved it. Got to talk to him......one liners back and forth, etc. One of, if not my all time fav Browns player. Great guy.
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And we probably lost out on the Nate Solder sweepstakes for the sole reason of waiting. We've waited. I mean, we really have waited and provided patience. Do they need to look at other people? Do they need to spend more time on the offensive linemen in the draft? They need to start preparing and etc and this lag effect here is not helping.
If he really STILL doesn't know if he wants to play, or can play - just don't play. Now it's at the point of just becoming a soap opera/another pro athlete's stunt in Cleveland because Joe, even though I like him bunches, publicly said he'd make it known before free agency.
Granted, I think the Browns have been informed, just we haven't yet. But as I said, the case of JT hasn't informed anyone - probably time to just move on as if he said bye and stop letting him put any type of wrench in the plans.
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And we probably lost out on the Nate Solder sweepstakes for the sole reason of waiting. Or maybe we lost out on the Solder sweepstates because we've been 1-31 in the past two years with Hue Jackson. Before that, we weren't much better the two years under Mike Pettine (especially the last year). We had a terrible season under Rod Chudzinski. And weren't any better before that. We switch coordinators regularly. And maybe his family doesn't want to move to Cleveland? Maybe he doesn't want to play in the shadow of a figure like Joe Thomas? We're not exactly a hot bed for free agents ya know. This guy is the top LT You're jumping to conclusions here amigo
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And we probably lost out on the Nate Solder sweepstakes for the sole reason of waiting. Or maybe we lost out on the Solder sweepstates because we've been 1-31 in the past two years with Hue Jackson. Before that, we weren't much better the two years under Mike Pettine (especially the last year). We had a terrible season under Rod Chudzinski. And weren't any better before that. We switch coordinators regularly. And maybe his family doesn't want to move to Cleveland? Maybe he doesn't want to play in the shadow of a figure like Joe Thomas? We're not exactly a hot bed for free agents ya know. This guy is the top LT You're jumping to conclusions here amigo Would you want to be the LT that replaced Joe Thomas? lmao
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Don't see Dorsey paying a LOT of $$ on FA's .
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The #Giants are expected to sign former #Patriots LT Nate Solder, source said. They get their franchise left tackle. Huge get.
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well, either JT told us he's back, or we're targeting a LT in the first round after a trade back ... or we're screwed
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well, either JT told us he's back, or we're targeting a LT in the first round after a trade back ... or we're screwed lol, i was saying we needed to plan for this a couple months ago......... I guess all we can do is pray. That or hire Joe Thomas to figure out how to get either A) Shonn Coleman or B) Spencer Drango ready to roll
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Drango played pretty well last year. I'm not sure he can't handle it if JT retires.
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Drango played pretty well last year. I'm not sure he can't handle it if JT retires. Sure hope he can. It went better than i thought it would last year. But that doesn't mean that I thought he was good or anything like that. He's got a ways to go
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j/c... Starting to think JT is coming back..... Albert Breer Verified account @AlbertBreer Three teams were in it for Solder: Patriots, Texans, Giants. Texans started to have doubts they'd be able to keep up last night, and Patriots had their limits. Tweet
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j/c... Starting to think JT is coming back..... Albert Breer Verified account @AlbertBreer Three teams were in it for Solder: Patriots, Texans, Giants. Texans started to have doubts they'd be able to keep up last night, and Patriots had their limits. Tweet With what Grossi was saying this morning, i really don't think so. Wish he would, but i don't think it's happening. I say, leave the light on for the guy at this point. Give him pretty much all the time he needs
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With what Grossi was saying this morning, i really don't think so. Grossi is a total moron with zero information. JT could still retire, but Grossi is just speculating like any of us.
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The #Giants are expected to sign former #Patriots LT Nate Solder, source said. They get their franchise left tackle. Huge get.
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I find it interesting he's considered a franchise LT when he's near the end of his career... you're getting, what? 4 years at most? To me a franchise tackle would be like 7-10, ala Joe Thomas.
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With what Grossi was saying this morning, i really don't think so. Grossi is a total moron with zero information. JT could still retire, but Grossi is just speculating like any of us. Kinda hope so. But also hope not at the same time. His most recent tweet "WR soon.Tony Grossi added, Jason Guyer @GCP_jason @TonyGrossi What/who is next in FA, best guess?" Maybe that means we can bring back Terrelle Pryor
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Grossi is a total moron with zero information.
Truer words have never been spoken. I'd love to have a twitter account just so I can get put on the X Files by this guy.
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I have no problem admitting I visit Mary Kay's Twitter and have looked at Tony's maybe once over the last several months. I just don't like his reporting, information nor do I like his usual line of questioning on interviews/pressers.
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/03/browns_push_hard_but_free-agen.htmlBrowns tried hard for Nate Solder to replace Joe Thomas, but he opts for Giants
By Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns tried hard to sign Patriots left tackle Nate Solder as the replacement for left tackle Joe Thomas, a source told cleveland.com, but Solder opted for the Giants instead.
The Texans and Patriots were also in on the bidding, according to reports.
Thomas, 33, is expected to make his announcement on his retirement today, and the Browns' pursuit of Solder would seem to indicate that he's retiring after 11 seasons.
Solder, who protected Tom Brady's blindside for the past six years, became the highest paid offensive offensive lineman in the NFL, with the Giants signing him to a four-year deal worth $62 million, including $35 million guaranteed, according to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport. That's $15.5 million a year -- $2 million more than what Thomas was set to make with the Browns this season.
At a fundraiser on Tuesday night, Thomas indicated he'd announce his decision today.
"As far a decision goes, we're still kind of working through that process," Thomas said during the Cleveland Chapter of Positive Coaching Alliance's youth awards dinner at the Music Box Supper Club. "I'm keeping the Browns apprised of everything I'm doing and trying to make the best decision for myself and for the team, and when that decision comes, I'm not quite sure just yet, but I know hopefully it'll be soon, right around the corner."
He acknowledged that he's excited about the recent flurry of moves -- but they might not be enough to bring him back.
"I think the future is really bright,'' he said. "Obviously, John Dorsey came here for a reason because there was a ton of cap space, a ton of money that you can spend under the salary cap on new players, and obviously the draft picks that we have are pretty impressive, really unprecedented to have the first, the fourth [overall selections] and a couple early picks in the second round.
"So although the talent hasn't been there for the team the last few years, the cupboards are not bare because of what we have coming down the pike in the next few years. For me as a player and for you guys as fans, it's a great time to be a Cleveland Brown."
As insurance against Thomas retiring, the Browns signed two tackles in Donald Stephenson and Chris Hubbard, but they've played primarily on the right side. Not looking good on the Joe Thomas Front at all folks
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Yup, I think he's known he's done for a while. And the Browns knew too. We wouldn't have been chasing Solder if he was coming back.
End of an era.
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Aint that the truth. I just wish we could somehow keep him a part of this team for when we finally get good. I'm sure he'll do something media related, but i'd love him as an offensive assistant or something. Like a Tackle Coach or something. Down on the field on Gamedays. Celebrating the wins with the team. Still a part of the guys
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He's got a whole new direction with the coaching to fall back on should he choose. Post media days he'll be in the woods come fall...
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Aint that the truth. I just wish we could somehow keep him a part of this team for when we finally get good. I'm sure he'll do something media related, but i'd love him as an offensive assistant or something. Like a Tackle Coach or something. Down on the field on Gamedays. Celebrating the wins with the team. Still a part of the guys 
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/03/browns_push_hard_but_free-agen.htmlBrowns tried hard for Nate Solder to replace Joe Thomas, but he opts for Giants
By Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns tried hard to sign Patriots left tackle Nate Solder as the replacement for left tackle Joe Thomas, a source told cleveland.com, but Solder opted for the Giants instead.
The Texans and Patriots were also in on the bidding, according to reports.
Thomas, 33, is expected to make his announcement on his retirement today, and the Browns' pursuit of Solder would seem to indicate that he's retiring after 11 seasons.
Solder, who protected Tom Brady's blindside for the past six years, became the highest paid offensive offensive lineman in the NFL, with the Giants signing him to a four-year deal worth $62 million, including $35 million guaranteed, according to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport. That's $15.5 million a year -- $2 million more than what Thomas was set to make with the Browns this season.
At a fundraiser on Tuesday night, Thomas indicated he'd announce his decision today.
"As far a decision goes, we're still kind of working through that process," Thomas said during the Cleveland Chapter of Positive Coaching Alliance's youth awards dinner at the Music Box Supper Club. "I'm keeping the Browns apprised of everything I'm doing and trying to make the best decision for myself and for the team, and when that decision comes, I'm not quite sure just yet, but I know hopefully it'll be soon, right around the corner."
He acknowledged that he's excited about the recent flurry of moves -- but they might not be enough to bring him back.
"I think the future is really bright,'' he said. "Obviously, John Dorsey came here for a reason because there was a ton of cap space, a ton of money that you can spend under the salary cap on new players, and obviously the draft picks that we have are pretty impressive, really unprecedented to have the first, the fourth [overall selections] and a couple early picks in the second round.
"So although the talent hasn't been there for the team the last few years, the cupboards are not bare because of what we have coming down the pike in the next few years. For me as a player and for you guys as fans, it's a great time to be a Cleveland Brown."
As insurance against Thomas retiring, the Browns signed two tackles in Donald Stephenson and Chris Hubbard, but they've played primarily on the right side. Not looking good on the Joe Thomas Front at all folks Depends what you consider good. Joe Thomas could retire tomorrow and he will go down as one of the all-time great players in the NFL. Eleven seasons including ten straight Pro Bowls, 7 first-team All-Pro, longest consecutive streak snap ever? A lot of people have been posting PFF grades lately; PFF has consistently had JT graded as the best or one of the best tackles in the league over his career. This is a remarkable degree of consistency that isn't even shared by most other elite players in the league. I'm sure he does not want to go out how he did, being injured and the team finishing how it did. The thing is though, this game is not good for your health. With what aging players go through, and what we now know about CTE and brain health, he's probably better off getting out now. He's made over a hundred million dollars in his career. His legacy is secure. The Browns are probably not going to be serious contenders this year. I'm just being realistic here-- the Browns went 0-16 and still have the same head coach. We have brought in a lot of good players this past week and will surely add more, but it will take time for the younger players to come into their own and the team to jell. Maybe he'd be more inclined to give it one more go if the team was a Super Bowl contender but I just don't see it. By the time the team is in serious contention, he will probably be done anyway with no equivocation. If he comes back, great. One less need for the Browns to worry about this season. If he calls it a career and enjoys his retirement, that's ok too. He has earned it and will go down as one of the all-time great Cleveland Browns.
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Grossi can't know yet. Just ignore his career. To the best of my knowledge at this point in time he has yet to declare either way. Just not going to trust something this important to the likes of these jokers.
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If he does decide to retire, thanks for the stellar play, good luck moving forward. Now we will just have to do the same.
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I don't blame joe at all with all this crappy pick ups in FA after the first day
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CBD is saying there will be an announcement at 2.pm today.
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I don't blame joe at all with all this crappy pick ups in FA after the first day 
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I'm not saying we'll do so this year, but the Pats won the Super Bowl in 2001 by adding a bunch of "crappy" signings, that their fans hated ..... but who fit what the team was doing,
I would suggest we wait till training camp before we consign all of the guys we signed to the dumpster.
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Adam Schefter saying Joe Thomas will announce his retirement per Nathan Zegura.
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