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Um....what?

AJ probably was/is looking for certain guarantees regarding starting QB opportunities which may have included assurances that the Browns were not going to take a QB in the 1st if he signed here. It may also involve Hue and Zampese(sp) being all in on those guarantees while Dorsey is intent on drafting a QB early on this year. If I am McCarron and I want an opportunity to start somewhere, I probably try to find a team that is not taking a QB in the top 5 of the draft.

See my post above regarding Pit devicedawg. You don't want to go there. It isn't worth it.

Some seem to say that Hue was supposed to be the one who made decisions on the QB. Some even go so far as to say he was the one who did make the decisions on the QB's. So let's get into what I see rather than those suggestions. Not saying I'm right but it does make sense.

Let's look at something that's being pushed as a story line now. Some posters are going along with a published report that Says Hue wanted AJ while Dorsey signed Taylor. They are trying to say that it somehow indicates that Hue is no longer in charge of the QB's anymore. Peen is one who has sad just that.

Yet let's be real about what each mans responsibility actually is. Sure, Hue can say who he would prefer we get. He has an opinion and has the right to voice his opinion. Yet it is not nor has it ever been his job to make that decision.

As such, Dorsey looked at differing opportunities at the QB position and made a decision to go with Taylor. That in no way indicates there is some riff between the two. What it indicates is that Dorsey exercised his responsibility and made what he thought was the best decision for the team.

Now my position is that if Sashi was just getting everyone Hue wanted at QB without actually following the same process Dorsey did in trading for Taylor, it's far more an indictment of Sashi than it is of Hue.

The person responsible for your roster and signing talent isn't someone who is supposed to bow to the whims of his coaching staff. If that's how it works out, you obviously have the wrong man for that job. When the people you have in the FO are a capable group, they go through a process of doing what's best for the team they are building.

Coming from a poster who thinks the HC was running the show and Sashi is his victim. lmao

It's nice that you think every poster should take your advice. Yes, ignore anyone and everyone who disagrees with you. And listen to Barney about who to debate with. Priceless.

No one is saying this stuff. Just stop with the nonsensical hyperbole.

Last year Hue was pushing for AJ because Kizer was not getting it, and Hue was desperate for a win. At the trading deadline, AJ was the best chance to get the win for the Browns because A.) He knew Hue's offense, and B.) He had in the league for a few years and had won some games. Now the offense belongs to Haley, so AJ is not the fit he would have been back in October.

But...that doesn't fot into the narrative of dysfunction.

yep .. makes too much sense..

Lol... why can't we close this thread?

Remember when Jimmy Haslam and Hue Jackson almost panic traded a second and third round pick for A.J. McCarron and then he became an unrestricted free agent and then no one in the league wanted him?

Because FA is still open and we could sign him to be our franchise QB.

We can start a collection. I got $12 that isn’t doing anything I can toss in.

There, but for the grace of a defective fax machine, goes us.

BTW, I've wanted to ask ever since that story broke about the botched trade ... who the bleep still uses fax machines?

It gets better by the day.

Yeah. Good times.

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Bills have agreed to terms with QB AJ McCarron on a two-year deal.
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we'll be able to compare if we should have signed AJ or traded for TT

Game plans can be changed by play calling.

Haley is going to call his game, not Hue's.


Hue is in charge of the red flag.

Now if we can just get the red flag under Haley’s control.

10 million over two years, pretty cost effective. McCown got that for one year, he probably won't last through and Bradford got twice that for one year, he probably won't last through.

The Buffalo GM must've driving through the neighborhood and found a sign saying, "Garage Sale", old tire, bowling ball, dead car battery, baby clothes and a QB.

No doubt Buffalo is still trying to move up to get a QB.

So glad these AJ threads can lie down in green pastures.

It may have been his reason, for not coming here, at the time he made the statement .. but situations change or maybe he just wasn't given an offer

I may have the opinion that Hue "picked" what he wanted. Cannot imagine a situation where a head coach wouldn't have input to the point of pretty much picking The Man. AJM would have been too much in that trade, and glad it fell apart.

I can't imagine this process with Hue totally divorced from it. So, if I muddied the water, so be it. But some of this is getting out there as far as what is important. TT is our starter; I think we did well. My opinions were exactly mine, and nothing more. No agenda or attempt to mislead. The stakes are low for a win, and what is the point except to argue in hindsight.

Go, Browns!

I bet we talked to his agent at the combine.

And this could have been the case, and in the game of musical chairs he simply lost.

He had only one bidder in the end. He knows the Bills are looking to trade up. Is what it is.

j/c:

Something to consider:

I'm no AJ McCarron fan, but we could have had him for $9M less in 2018 and kept the 65th pick. Taylor or McCarron is a bridge no matter what and we would be taking a QB w/ the #1 with either of them on the roster.

I was thinking that this morning while walking my dog. But, you know what, bird in hand is better than two birds in the bush.

We got a bridge QB, didn't give up too much to get him, and he doesn't ruin our cap.


Plus, Taylor is more of a known commodity than McCarron, although, like I've said, if anyone knows McCarron it's Hue and Zampese


EDIT: Who knows what was said at the combine. What Tab said definitely might be true. And if AJ knew then what he knew now, maybe he'd have said, "Sure I'll sign up with the Browns for a solid chance to start for a season"

I'll put my faith in Dorsey over those two...

I'm guessing Hue could really like AJ and yet realize he's not the second coming of Bart Starr. He may not have pushed as hard as we think even though 2/3 through last year he looked a whole lot better than anything we could field.

I'm thinking he didn't want to come here because we didn't ask him too.