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Source: Bills sending LT Cordy Glenn and the 21st pick to the Bengals for the 12th overall pick. Buffalo also sending their fifth-round with Cincinnati's sixth-rounder coming.


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Source: Bills sending LT Cordy Glenn and the 21st pick to the Bengals for the 12th overall pick. Buffalo also sending their fifth-round with Cincinnati's sixth-rounder coming.



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Updated #Bills draft picks in Rounds 1-3: Nos. 12, 21, 53, 56, 65 and 96. Not quite the #Browns, but that’s some serious juice to go get their guy.

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OMG. Thank you LORD for not making me be born into a Cincinnati fan.

Move from 12 to 21 for Glenn? I'm aware of the USELESS swaps of 5&7 rounders.

WTF is Lewis thinking. WOW.

Now I'm open for discussion about the 4 pick. Whatcha got Buffalo? STARTING with 12 & 22.

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Using a conventional trade chart, Bills have 1,980 points between picks 12 and 22. That’s enough to get to No. 4 (1,800) but not No. 3 (2,200). Adding No. 53 (370) gets to 2,350. Adding No. 56 (340) gets to 2,690, or more than value of No. 2 (2,600).

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Now I'm open for discussion about the 4 pick. Whatcha got Buffalo? STARTING with 12 & 22.


Yes, the number 12 could possibly put us in position for Derwin James. Maybe 22 gets. us McLynchey or a possible LT in the draft?


I've said all along that 4 pick will be worth a lot. But I think the Colts will be eager to trade their 3 pick. So we'll see.


I'm still happy with Barkley, Fitzpatrick, or Chubb. They all should be suds. I think I'd leave them in that order too. Maybe Chubb passes Fitzpatrick, but I dunno. Guess it comes down to the confidence we have in this Randall guy playing FS. Although I figured it would be McCourty moving back there. We could definitely roll another year with McCourty though, if given some legit help


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Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg
Using a conventional trade chart, Bills have 1,980 points between picks 12 and 22. That’s enough to get to No. 4 (1,800) but not No. 3 (2,200). Adding No. 53 (370) gets to 2,350. Adding No. 56 (340) gets to 2,690, or more than value of No. 2 (2,600).

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As much as I dislike Florio (from PFT), he has already said he thinks the Bills would be moving up to #4 (21/22 and another, likely 3rd rounder before the Cordy trade). I can definitely see us trading down from #4 for 12 and 22 if we get our QB at #1. I could also see us moving back up to 5 or 6 with 12 and 35. That is ONLY if we draft QB at 1. If we go Barkley at 1, I don't see us trading out of 4.

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Do not want pick 22 .. too much history there... find another way .. LOL


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Do not want pick 22 .. too much history there... find another way .. LOL


Nice. In that case, #22 and #35 equates to roughly #9 in the trade value chart. #1, #9, #12, and #33 sure sounds intriguing.

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I really like the trades we've made this offseason. They have definitely taken the pressure off of the draft in terms of acquiring pieces we need to just field a competitive team (we finally have a FS worth a damn, we finally have a QB that won't set records for turnovers).

But we are still a team low on talent. We need blue-chip players in a bad way.

Please don't trade down.


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Seahawks in discussions with several teams regarding Earl Thomas. Seeking a 1st and 3rd round pick in return. May get more


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That's pretty steep for a guy that is in the final year of a contract and has comtemplated holding out. He's going to cost someone $13m a year (using Berry's agreement numbers) for a long term deal, plus a first and a third and maybe more. No way. I'd consider moving down to 18 from 4, but that's it.

Or they can have Corey Coleman and Damarius Randall for him, lol

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That's pretty steep for a guy that is in the final year of a contract and has comtemplated holding out. He's going to cost someone $13m a year (using Berry's agreement numbers) for a long term deal, plus a first and a third and maybe more. No way. I'd consider moving down to 18 from 4, but that's it.

Or they can have Corey Coleman and Damarius Randall for him, lol


He's the best at his position in the league. I don't think we'd be in the market for him because we just traded for Damarious Randall and we don't really match up on the asking price.

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No question he is, but $13m/year and a 1st rounder and a 3rd rounder (and maybe more) - that's very steep for any team that isn't an impact FS away from the SB.

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No way I trade a first AND more for Earl Thomas on a one year deal... just no way at all. I can't see other teams wanting to drop that kind of coin for him either, regardless if he's the best FS in hte game. Seattle is insane.

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No way I trade a first AND more for Earl Thomas on a one year deal... just no way at all. I can't see other teams wanting to drop that kind of coin for him either, regardless if he's the best FS in hte game. Seattle is insane.


I think a lot depends on where you're at. I mean a team's one that is in the mid 20's and a 3rd around the same level, it isn't that bad.

Thomas isn't old, and he's a great player


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It isn't that good, either... going to pay big right upfront with draft capital, then pay big once more to get him a contract. As said above, he's already willing to hold out.

You'd have to be like, a free safety away from playoffs/superbowl and I don't know any teams off the top of my head that has the capital to pay both ways that probably couldn't just use that capital on other very needed positions.

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If I'm Pittsburgh I'd do a 1st and 3rd honestly ... he'd be perfect and doesn't cost as much as he'd cost a bad team


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It isn't that good, either... going to pay big right upfront with draft capital, then pay big once more to get him a contract. As said above, he's already willing to hold out.

You'd have to be like, a free safety away from playoffs/superbowl and I don't know any teams off the top of my head that has the capital to pay both ways that probably couldn't just use that capital on other very needed positions.


Free Safeties don't seem to be hot right now anyway. This Reid guy from the 49ers is saying he isn't getting offers because he followed Kaep, but I think I read that no FS's are getting signed.

Just us selecting that Randall guy. Who, honestly, from the interview, hardly seems like the QB of our secondary. Maybe he's real football smart though. That or just uncomfortable with cameras. But he doesn't seem like the type of guy who can call coverages, etc.

On the other-hand that guy Currie seems real intelligent


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If I'm Pittsburgh I'd do a 1st and 3rd honestly ... he'd be perfect and doesn't cost as much as he'd cost a bad team


He's still going to cost a bunch, and Pittsburgh doesn't have anywhere near the cap to handle getting him a new deal along with Bell.


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Okay so, is buffalo 12&22 enough for our 4th?. I'd like to see their 2nd next year to go along with that.
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Well we dont have a 3rd round pick so we are out of it n now way we are trading our first. As mentioned one year left. Seahawks are just dreaming.



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j/c...

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Nice trade for Indy - drop back 3 spots and pick up 3 2nds. Sweet.

Bills will be making big pitch to the Giants, I suspect.

QBs coming off the board 1, 2, and 3.

Chubb or Barkley will be there for the taking.

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Bills will be making big pitch to the Giants, I suspect.

QBs coming off the board 1, 2, and 3.


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We are so Gold at four.

The Colts move to trade out of four sets us up.

I strongly believe the Giants go QB.

But even if they do not and they do go Barkley we have can get Chubb or the best corner.

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j/c...

Starting to think Darnold at #1 is a foregone conclusion....

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Whew that's a lot of capital to move up that many spots... goes to show you how valuable being in the top of this draft is... and we're there twice. It's time to improve this team!

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Starting to think Darnold at #1 is a foregone conclusion....

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NO -one , but No-one is sure who the first guy off the Board will be ..

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If Barkley is there, then I draft him.

If he is not, I would seriously consider moving back a few spots and picking up another second for this year.

There are about 12 to 14 players that I consider blue chip, before there is a drop off to the next level.


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We are so Gold at four.

The Colts move to trade out of four sets us up.

I strongly believe the Giants go QB.

But even if they do not and they do go Barkley we have can get Chubb or the best corner.


With QBs going 1,2,3...#4 now becomes essentially another #1 pick for us. Any player now available to us at both 1 and 4. Don't trade down. Take the QB and then take either Barkley or Chubb. I am cool with either at this point.

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The Only Way I Trade Out is if Buffalo Gives Us 12, 22, 53, 56 and Next Years #1/#2 ... If They Want Their QB They Will Pay ... That Gives Us 1, 12, 22, 33, 35, 53, 56, 64 + 2 #1's and 2 #2's and 2 #3's In 2019 thumbsup

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Just take the better player at 4 rather than more "guys". We already have a handful of "guys" taken (WRs, Nassib, Orchard etc.) who we will now most likely part from 2 years later. That #4 pick can be literally anybody other than a QB, who we take at 1. Man...that is gold. Take it!

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The Only Way I Trade Out is if Buffalo Gives Us 12, 22, 53, 56 and Next Years #1/#2 ... If They Want Their QB They Will Pay ... That Gives Us 1, 12, 22, 33, 35, 53, 56, 64 + 2 #1's and 2 #2's and 2 #3's In 2019 thumbsup
yep, i'd agree w/somethng like this


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a lot of capital for what may end being their third QB of choice


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If Buffalo wants one of the top 4 QB's they will have to give a truckload of picks to the Giants at #2 or the Browns at #4 to get ahead of Denver ...


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Why Denver?
If we pick qb1 Why would Denver be threatened to have to move up 1slot?

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Originally Posted By: Dawgwood
Why Denver?
If we pick qb1 Why would Denver be threatened to have to move up 1slot?


So another team such as the Bills can't beat them to it.

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Why Denver?
If we pick qb1 Why would Denver be threatened to have to move up 1slot?


So another team such as the Bills can't beat them to it.


Bills, Dolphins, Cardinals. There's a bunch of teams that would love a QB (possibly). That's not to mention teams like the Chargers, Steelers, Sains and other teams with aging QBs, or crappy QB situations


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