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I think the Jets felt the pressure of the Bills moving up to 12, knowing that 12 and 22 was a much more valuable trade on the point value chart than they could offer. To get a QB, not necessarily the one they want, but one of the four closely rated to QBs, they had to offer an overvalued trade to get a QB.
I would say they offered the same trade to the Browns and the Giants, got turned down, then found their taker with the Colts.
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This definitely changes my mind about taking Barkley at #1 and our QB at #4 because now we are almost assured Barkley will still be there at #4 and we can also have our choice of QB at #!, best of both worlds for us.
But my question is this . Say we dont even want BArkley, and it is going to be Minkah or Chubb at #4. I like them both, but why are so many picking Chubb at #4 instead of Minkah? When we already have two outstanding DEs but seriously need a playmaker in our secondary?
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Because Randall will be moved to FS and Peppers will play SS.
Also the position. You never turn away a great pass rusher.
There is an old saying. A good big guy is better than a good little guy.
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This definitely changes my mind about taking Barkley at #1 and our QB at #4 because now we are almost assured Barkley will still be there at #4 and we can also have our choice of QB at #!, best of both worlds for us.
But my question is this . Say we dont even want BArkley, and it is going to be Minkah or Chubb at #4. I like them both, but why are so many picking Chubb at #4 instead of Minkah? When we already have two outstanding DEs but seriously need a playmaker in our secondary? I think mostly because of the trade we made for Randall and the signing of T.J. Carrie. Rather than a hybrid Safety/CB I expect the Browns will likely go for more pressure on the Front 4 or pickup Ward as the top CB available.
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So the question may be do we take WARD, CHUBB or BARKLEY.. Wow.. tough choice uh ?
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Because Randall will be moved to FS and Peppers will play SS.
Also the position. You never turn away a great pass rusher.
There is an old saying. A good big guy is better than a good little guy. So youre saying we wont draft a FS because we have one, but we will draft a DE when we already have two really good ones?
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Because Randall will be moved to FS and Peppers will play SS.
Also the position. You never turn away a great pass rusher.
There is an old saying. A good big guy is better than a good little guy. So youre saying we wont draft a FS because we have one, but we will draft a DE when we already have two really good ones? Best Player Available
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Maybe they plan on trading Ogbah.
Ogbah and #64 to a team drafting in the 20s (Lions/Rams/Falcons). Pick the best CB available - Alexander, Jackson, Hughes.
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I honestly don't even think it's a question now. We'll go QB at #1. Judging by Dorsey's history, and the amount of RB talent that will probably be available in the 2nd round this year ... I don't even know that we go with Barkley if he's available at #4 (or #5).
My guess is that the plan is to take a QB #1, and then take Chubb at #4 (Or Fitz). Then take whatever RB falls to us in Round 2, as there should be plenty of options. I agree. I think this scenario is becoming more and more likely after our FA moves / trades. The second round RB's have 1st round talent.
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This is ideal for us IMO. We get our choice of QB at 1, then the best position player will be available to us next.
1. Cleveland - Darnold
2. NY Giants - Rosen
3. NY Jets - Mayfield
4. Denver (They get paranoid that we'll trade with Buffalo) - Allen
5. Cleveland - Barkley or Chubb
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This is ideal for us IMO. We get our choice of QB at 1, then the best position player will be available to us next.
1. Cleveland - Darnold
2. NY Giants - Rosen
3. NY Jets - Mayfield
4. Denver (They get paranoid that we'll trade with Buffalo) - Allen
5. Cleveland - Barkley or Chubb
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Because Randall will be moved to FS and Peppers will play SS.
Also the position. You never turn away a great pass rusher.
There is an old saying. A good big guy is better than a good little guy. So youre saying we wont draft a FS because we have one, but we will draft a DE when we already have two really good ones? And lets JUST IGNORE THE FACT that our new starting FS hasn’t played the position in 3 YEARS ... and he’s not in Fitz’s category besides ...
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you and pit watch: dude is gonna be an absolute game changer.
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How many games did Garrett miss last season?
How many games did Ogbah miss the past 2? good point, so at #4 overall we are drafting for depth? Got it . Dont get me wrong, I would be thrilled with Chubb, I am definitely a defensive and especially DL. Just questioning somes logic as to why it has to be Chubb over Fitz.
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Because Randall will be moved to FS and Peppers will play SS.
Also the position. You never turn away a great pass rusher.
There is an old saying. A good big guy is better than a good little guy. So youre saying we wont draft a FS because we have one, but we will draft a DE when we already have two really good ones? And lets JUST IGNORE THE FACT that our new starting FS hasn’t played the position in 3 YEARS ... and he’s not in Fitz’s category besides ... and theres that too. So if Minkah can be a generational player at the safety position , we dont draft him because we have a development safety project?
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And we need 3 DE’s ....
Yup ... that about sums it up right there ...
Were gonna pass on Fitz for a guy that hasn’t played FS in 3 years and is not in Fit’s class as a FS so we can draft a GREAT FOOTBALL PLAYER that would be a ROTATIONAL GUY ...
Now ... someone said OGBAH may be on the block ... i wouldn’t undertand it ... but then Chubb would make all the sense in the world ... i’d Still want my defensive QB ... but i would be able to UNDERSTAND IT ALOT BETTER if that were the case ...
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Why do people call Chubb depth or a rotational player?
Ogbah has been solid but nothing special.
Chubb would be the starter and stud.
Ogbah becomes the a rotational depth player.
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Yea he better be ready for a cold weather team. He could be a decent QB in the Canadian Football League.
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And we need 3 DE’s ....
Yup ... that about sums it up right there ...
Were gonna pass on Fitz for a guy that hasn’t played FS in 3 years and is not in Fit’s class as a FS so we can draft a GREAT FOOTBALL PLAYER that would be a ROTATIONAL GUY ...
Now ... someone said OGBAH may be on the block ... i wouldn’t undertand it ... but then Chubb would make all the sense in the world ... i’d Still want my defensive QB ... but i would be able to UNDERSTAND IT ALOT BETTER if that were the case ... I agree and our secondary was a way bigger weakness than our DL was last year. We signed a couple decent secondary players , that will help, but nobody who would be a premiere, Pro Bowl type difference maker back there. I dont know , maybe we could have three safetys who are good enough so that we dont have to have them lined up 25 yards off the ball, maybe?
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What if we just go Darnold/Rosen at 1 ... and then Allen at 4 and LOL
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Why do people call Chubb depth or a rotational player?
Ogbah has been solid but nothing special.
Chubb would be the starter and stud.
Ogbah becomes the a rotational depth player. Exactly. Garrett and Chubb are starters, Ogbah would be rotational and depth. Plus, we've got three 2nd rounders open for DB selections and a LT. I'm okay with Fitz too, but I think I want to build a D-line that will scare QB's away from thinking they'll have time for anything other than a 3-step drop. Go get solid tacklers and we can start printing Super Bowl tickets. Okay, got carried away at the end, but it's fun to think like that.
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What if we just go Darnold/Rosen at 1 ... and then Allen at 4 and LOL Wouldn't bother me a darn bit.. Oh wait.. we are so good at picking QB's we KNOW the FO will nail the right guy at ONE . LMAO
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you and pit watch: dude is gonna be an absolute game changer. I like him. I hope he is a game changer. I see no scenario where we take him at one.
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Problem is, there aren't enough practice snaps to develop either guy if we pick a Qb at #1 and #4
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you and pit watch: dude is gonna be an absolute game changer. I like him. I hope he is a game changer. I see no scenario where we take him at one. Yeah , me too Swish. I would love to have Lamar J, but just cant see it happening at #1 overall, or really even #4 , not with the way this is all shaking out.
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Yea he better be ready for a cold weather team. He could be a decent QB in the Canadian Football League. it aint exactly warm all the time in louisville. and if we're gonna off on weather? than that rules out Baker, Rosen, and Darnold as well.
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