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For me it's contact after the ball leaves the hand in basketball. It clearly does not nor cannot affect the shot and has no business being a foul.
A close second is jumping into a defender to initiate contact. I mean, WTF?
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Delay of game. Means you don't have it together.
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Hitting too hard. Like when a defensive back tries to separate a receiver from the ball. Is he supposed to let him catch it?
Second is taunting. These are grown men, right?
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The offensive and defensive 3 second rule in basketball.
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Balks in baseball... so dumb 98% of the world don't even understand how they work lol.
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Fouling a 3-point shooter with a 4-point lead in the last few seconds of the game.
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For me it's contact after the ball leaves the hand in basketball. It clearly does not nor cannot affect the shot and has no business being a foul. I love the people that argue that it affects their "follow through"... and just plug their ears when you try to explain the obvious lmao.
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This could mean two things: The dumbest foul rule or the dumbest foul committed. I have to agree with that “fouling a 3-point shooter in a 4-point game” (with less than 5 seconds left in the game) is right up there. Similarly, any defensive penalty by a team winning by one score or less on the last play of the game in the NFL. Dumbest rule? Too many men on the field. On any given play teams should be allowed as many men on the field as they want. 
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Balks in baseball... so dumb 98% of the world don't even understand how they work lol. That's the first thing that popped into my mind when I saw this thread. The excessive celebration in the NFL as it is currently enforced is next on my list.
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... jumping into a defender to initiate contact. I mean, WTF?
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This could mean two things: The dumbest foul rule or the dumbest foul committed. I have to agree with that “fouling a 3-point shooter in a 4-point game” (with less than 5 seconds left in the game) is right up there. Similarly, any defensive penalty by a team winning by one score or less on the last play of the game in the NFL. Dumbest rule? Too many men on the field. On any given play teams should be allowed as many men on the field as they want. I was going for the dumbest rule but dumb acts are welcome too. 
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I hate jump shooters kicking their legs out to draw a foul. The defender has a right to their space. A shooter kicking their legs out violates the defenders space not the defender violating the shooters space to come down.
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not a fan of the catch rules now
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not a fan of the catch rules now I cant decide if I am a fan or not because nobody seems to even know what they are
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not a fan of the catch rules now I cant decide if I am a fan or not because nobody seems to even know what they are exactly haha
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not a fan of the catch rules now I cant decide if I am a fan or not because nobody seems to even know what they are exactly haha When you think about it Football has quite a few dumb rules now. The catch rule, Where you can hit QB's, the tuck rule, how pass interference gets called, and the coaches challenge. College rule much better.
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Every version of a catch rule is going to be difficult to get on paper and apply to each scenario in a game. I can think back to the Calvin Johnson, Dez Bryant, Jesse James and other players where it might be easy to say, "that's not a catch by my eyes" or reverse, but with today's replay closeups and angles, you can see the ball move so much more accurately.
And yes, I think if a WR is going to the ground soon after the catch, the WR should be able to "maintain control throughout the process". That's not always easy to interpret with a football move, the sideline, a dive, a hand moving, the ball moving an inch, a defender hitting the ball, etc. It's so much easier to see if a fumble happened or not, although that's not always 100%.
I prefer the no non-sense catch rule we have now. I don't want refs and replay officials just using the "eye test".
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If it wasn't for the balk rule in baseball there would never be a stolen base: no Ty Cobb, no Maury Wills, no Rickey Henderson, et al. The balk rule was instated to preserve the balance between a base runner's ability to steal a base and the defense's ability to stop him. A balk, in effect, is a pitcher faking his pitch delivery to home plate in an attempt to stop a runner from stealing a base - at least that is the presumption. Its a good and necessary rule, unless you're a fan of no lead off, station-to-station baseball.
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The dumbest rule is simple. What is a catch and what isn't a catch in the NFL.
The dumbest rules infraction? Hmmmmm..I might change this later, but off the top of my head, jumping offsides on 4th and less than 5 in football.
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After watching alot of college basketball this weekend, the constant palming of the ball kills me. It is never called and it could be constantly. When I was growing up we were taught the hand always stays on top of the ball.
Not a rule or foul, but there too many commercials in college basketball. I know they gotta get there money but 5+ commercial breaks in the final minute is ludicrous.
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Basketball drives me crazy. I hate that a team that’s behind near the end of a game can use fouling as a good thing. It makes no sense. Fouls should always be something to avoid. Instead the rules are set up that you can hack a guy going in for an easy 2 point layup, now making him have to take two shots to get the same 2 points he should have gotten easily before being hacked. Sorry but this to me is insane. If you have a guy going for 2 points that guy should get 3 free throws. If it’s a foul on a 3 pointer the shooter should get 4 freethrows. Now the foul committed is actually a penalty to the team that committed it. Instead fouling is encouraged and is actually a way to get back into a game in the final minutes. How is this logical? In no other sport that I’m aware of does purposely, repeatedly, drawing a penalty equate to a good thing. Nor should it.
Hey the Browns are down by 7 with 3 minutes left. Heck we’re only three roughing the passser and two false starts away from a win!! A few more chop blocks and a holding might get us that W!! We could argue every week about how the coach managed his penalties at the end of the game. “If I were the coach I’d have jumped offsides then called for three illegal procedures. That would have secured the victory. But nooooo. Coach had to go for a too many men on the line of scrimmage and three holding calls instead. No wonder we lost!! Fire the coach!!”
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What? That rule may be difficult to judge, but it is a good rule.
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Pass Interference is often a crapshoot call. Two guys going for the ball. Sure, if it is obvious the defender holds, pulls, pushes etc. But, if they are both going for it...let it play out. It is also the one penalty that refs can use to instantly change a game as we now see teams who are behind, just hurl the ball down the sidelines knowing that there is 70+% chance of getting the PI call (Brady is the master of this and he gets the call 90% of the time).
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Basketball drives me crazy. I hate that a team that’s behind near the end of a game can use fouling as a good thing. It makes no sense. Fouls should always be something to avoid. Instead the rules are set up that you can hack a guy going in for an easy 2 point layup, now making him have to take two shots to get the same 2 points he should have gotten easily before being hacked. Sorry but this to me is insane. If you have a guy going for 2 points that guy should get 3 free throws. If it’s a foul on a 3 pointer the shooter should get 4 freethrows. Now the foul committed is actually a penalty to the team that committed it. Instead fouling is encouraged and is actually a way to get back into a game in the final minutes. How is this logical? In no other sport that I’m aware of does purposely, repeatedly, drawing a penalty equate to a good thing. Nor should it.
Hey the Browns are down by 7 with 3 minutes left. Heck we’re only three roughing the passser and two false starts away from a win!! A few more chop blocks and a holding might get us that W!! We could argue every week about how the coach managed his penalties at the end of the game. “If I were the coach I’d have jumped offsides then called for three illegal procedures. That would have secured the victory. But nooooo. Coach had to go for a too many men on the line of scrimmage and three holding calls instead. No wonder we lost!! Fire the coach!!” Also in basketball the possession arrow. Throw the ball up like they use to.
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I think the arrow was an attempt to save time. I think it does save time.
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What? That rule may be difficult to judge, but it is a good rule. If a team wants to cherry pick so be it. They're at a disadvantage on the other side of the field, or the other team can choose to cover.
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Just to add one.. I'd say the backcourt violation in basketball.
In pre-shot clock days when UNC mastered the 4 corners, I could understand it so you didn't have to defend the whole 98 feet while they tried to dribble out the final 10 minutes.. but with a shot clock, the backcourt violation makes almost no sense except to create a turnover out of an errant pass that never really goes out of bounds.
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Not to be disagreeable, but that rule isn't dumb. I love that rule. We used to run half court traps where we would try to force a pass to the sideline just past halfcourt and then we would double them hard.
I know all the BB guys on the board know what I'm talking about. I love strategy.
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Last year Lexi Thompson lost an LPGA Major because a fan at home saw her on TV mark her ball incorrectly the day before. Somehow that fan got in touch with LPGA officials and they docked Lexi 2 strokes for an incorrect ball mark and since it happened a day earlier she was docked 2 strokes for handing in an incorrect scorecard. She had a 4 stroke lead when she was told and lost in a playoff.
Got to be the dumbest rule in sports to allow a fan at home call a penalty a day later actually apply that penalty and more.
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I was going to bring that up. Good post, my man!!!
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Last year Lexi Thompson lost an LPGA Major because a fan at home saw her on TV mark her ball incorrectly the day before. Somehow that fan got in touch with LPGA officials and they docked Lexi 2 strokes for an incorrect ball mark and since it happened a day earlier she was docked 2 strokes for handing in an incorrect scorecard. She had a 4 stroke lead when she was told and lost in a playoff.
Got to be the dumbest rule in sports to allow a fan at home call a penalty a day later actually apply that penalty and more. I believe they bagged that rule. Link
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The dumbest rule is no pulling of beards in the Lingerie Football League!
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I would get into debate with balk call when umping when left hander on mound. When on mound the pitcher must his throwing arm leg on the pitcher's plate,rubber,while addressing the batter prior to lifting front leg to pitch ball to batter. In order to attempt pick off the pitcher must move rear foot from contact in front of rubber move it behind rubber then turn and throw to first base for right hander whereas a left hander although must move rear foot off rubber to rear they pick front leg while addressing batter than throw to first without first moving rear foot behind rubber. Rule states once addressing batter pitcher lifts front leg while throw arm foot is in contact in front of rubber he must throw ball to catcher otherwise he is using deception to capture the runner at first base.
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What? That rule may be difficult to judge, but it is a good rule. Good, and necessary. Cherrypicking would probably happen all the time. Not so much a dumb penalty, but making goaltender interference reviewable in hockey has become a complete disaster. It's wouldn't be nearly as bad as if the NFL started reviewing pass interference, but it's in the same realm. I think the referees did really good for years with that call being a live call. I really hate in the NFL when DB's don't turn around. Don't get me wrong, I cannot imagine how impossible it is to be a defensive back in the NFL these days, but it is almost a guaranteed flag if you don't turn your head and look at the ball. Happens to the Browns all the time. That's usually when things start to take a turn for them. Someone chucks up a 50/50 ball, our guy doesn't turn around, he bumps the receiver, and it's a flag. A touchdown usually comes within a few plays after that. Durrr
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Also tossing players in college football for targeting is a joke.
I get it, there are certain plays, where it's clear the guy launched himself into an opposing player, but there are too many times where guys are tossed when it was borderline. Nick Bosa was ejected last year on a play where he barely made contact with the quarterback. It was a total trash call.
And the problem with that entire rule is it will be very hard to take that away. You can't pretend to care about the well-being of players by making that rule, and then take it away because it's ruining your game. That is a horrible look.
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