Barkley significantly better than any other back in this draft.
There are some GM's who probably don't feel this way....
And that is why they get fired ... Just because they have the job doesn't mean they are good at it
You can't fix stupid but you can destroy ignorance. When you destroy ignorance you remove the justifications for evil. If you want to destroy evil then educate our people. Hate is a tool of the stupid to deal with what they can't understand.
So with QBs going 2, 3 (probably), there is literally no reason to take Saquon Barkley first.
Giants wont take a QB at number 2. They will take Saquaon if we are fools enough to let them have him. They are geared towards winning a Superbowl now while they still have Eli for another season or two and will take a QB later in the draft to build up behind Elie for a few seasons.
You can't fix stupid but you can destroy ignorance. When you destroy ignorance you remove the justifications for evil. If you want to destroy evil then educate our people. Hate is a tool of the stupid to deal with what they can't understand.
So with QBs going 2, 3 (probably), there is literally no reason to take Saquon Barkley first.
Giants wont take a QB at number 2. They will take Saquaon if we are fools enough to let them have him. They are geared towards winning a Superbowl now while they still have Eli for another season or two and will take a QB later in the draft to build up behind Elie for a few seasons.
You don't take Barkley over your top QB for any reason. At this point, he very well could be there at 4. I'd consider him at 4, but take your top QB at 1.
He is going to be one of the very elite HB's in the league
The 1960s are long gone. Please say "RB's" rather than "HB's."
Sorry, but no. I am still mentally capable of using a FB in an offense I design so I will use the correct term for the position. FBs can run the ball too so they are both running backs.
You can't fix stupid but you can destroy ignorance. When you destroy ignorance you remove the justifications for evil. If you want to destroy evil then educate our people. Hate is a tool of the stupid to deal with what they can't understand.
You seem way too involved in this discussion. It's very KOB or device-like.
Come on back to reality, bro. It's the NFL draft, not a life and death issue.
Lol, it's not life or death for me mate =) I mean hell I am so used to the Browns drafting poorly that I gave up on them picking the players I want a long time ago. When I think of all the players I wanted them to draft that they passed on ... well it's just very sad I don't drink alcohol ...
Still at least I can nag when they don't and like always they suck it up. I don't think a Browns fan gets anything else to celebrate anyways. It's not like we get respectable football to watch on Sundays.
You can't fix stupid but you can destroy ignorance. When you destroy ignorance you remove the justifications for evil. If you want to destroy evil then educate our people. Hate is a tool of the stupid to deal with what they can't understand.
No dude, you're wrong. They don't line up the way they used to. You do understand how the term "halfback" came about, right?
Yes, I know and I know they don't even really use FBs anymore too but it's still how I call it and will always call it =)
You can't fix stupid but you can destroy ignorance. When you destroy ignorance you remove the justifications for evil. If you want to destroy evil then educate our people. Hate is a tool of the stupid to deal with what they can't understand.
I mean do they even use the "I" formation anymore these days? I miss the old smashmouth football.
You can't fix stupid but you can destroy ignorance. When you destroy ignorance you remove the justifications for evil. If you want to destroy evil then educate our people. Hate is a tool of the stupid to deal with what they can't understand.
LOL.............it's a rugby term. Later, the halfback actually lined up in front of the FB. Later still, he was the guy who was offset from the C, QB, and FB.
How about we compromise and you at least call that position a TB [tailback?] It's a more accurate term than HB [halfback] or WB [wing back.]
LOL.............it's a rugby term. Later, the halfback actually lined up in front of the FB. Later still, he was the guy who was offset from the C, QB, and FB.
How about we compromise and you at least call that position a TB [tailback?] It's a more accurate term than HB [halfback] or WB [wing back.]
Sorry man, I can't change what I call it after 30 plus years of calling it that. You will just have to forgive me and let it go ^^
You can't fix stupid but you can destroy ignorance. When you destroy ignorance you remove the justifications for evil. If you want to destroy evil then educate our people. Hate is a tool of the stupid to deal with what they can't understand.
So with QBs going 2, 3 (probably), there is literally no reason to take Saquon Barkley first.
Giants wont take a QB at number 2. They will take Saquaon if we are fools enough to let them have him. They are geared towards winning a Superbowl now while they still have Eli for another season or two and will take a QB later in the draft to build up behind Elie for a few seasons.
We can all argue about this for the next 6 weeks. We'll see who's right later.
Word is the Jets talked to US AND the Giants and were told NO THANKS.
It's debatable as to WHY the Giants said no.
Be interesting to see if anyone offers them a deal they can't refuse.
I CANNOT believe for a minute that the Giants would say No to a deal because they are LOCKED IN on a Running Back. That's borderline STUPID, regardless of what that RBS name is.
Now if they do in fact take a deal from say Buffalo, then we are ALL WRONG. Lol.
But IF they STICK at 2 and reject any and all offers, they are going QB without doubt.
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When asked about Barkley by ESPN Cleveland’s Tony Grossi on the 100 Years Pod Podcast, Dorsey answered why he prefers a running back by committee, versus a featured back.
“I believe in a running back committee, always have been, i’ve always been taught that way. You can’t have enough good running backs. Football in the National Football League is a very physical game and you can have two or three really good running backs, and you have the teaching/coaching staff we have, they’re going to put together a gameplan that’s going to fit everybody and that’s all you can ask for.”
This quote suggests Barkley is not a target at #4.
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I like Barkley at #4 if he is there and I think he will be. I see QB going 1,2,3.
Look at the Combine numbers he ran 4.40 40 at 233lbs. Leonard Fournette ran a 4.51 at 240lbs, and Zeke Elliott ran a 4.47 at 225lbs.
Besides his great speed he is incredibly strong bench pressing 29 reps at the combine and had a vertical jump of 41" same as Myles Garrett last year.
Most impressively he produced on the field for Penn State rushing for 3,843 yards with 43 touchdown, caught passes for 1,195 yards and 8 more touchdowns. Then had over 500 return yards with 2 more touchdowns. Scouting reports also view Barkley as the best pass protecting RB coming out of college since Zeke Elliott.
His only real knock on him is he sometimes gets bounce happy instead of taking short gains causing him to have too many negative plays. He will have to fix that because NFL defenses are faster than college defenses.
But what sets Barkley apart from Elliott and Fournette is reports are that he has impeccable character.
I think if the Browns get Rosen/Darnold at #1 and Barkley at #4 it will be an incredible draft.
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My point here is that it doesn't matter what any of us think, it's what Dorsey thinks, and he is on record as saying he prefers a RB by committee. He has never drafted a RB before the 3rd round.
Now this is a unique situation. Having filled his biggest need at #1, #4 is a luxury pick, so me may go for the luxury RB. But going by what he has said, and what his drafting history shows, I think it is much more likely that Barkley is not the pick.
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I look forward to the draft, and I really hope that QBs do go 1-2-3.
The we sit there at 4 .... with the opportunity to trade down, and 1 of a plethora of good players available, even if we trade down to 12.
Derwin James Chubbs Barkley Nelson Fitzpatrick Ward Roquan Smith Josh Jackson
One of those guys will be there if QBs go 1-2-3-4. Could be very interesting.
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I look forward to the draft, and I really hope that QBs do go 1-2-3.
The we sit there at 4 .... with the opportunity to trade down, and 1 of a plethora of good players available, even if we trade down to 12.
Derwin James Chubbs Barkley Nelson Fitzpatrick Ward Roquan Smith Josh Jackson
One of those guys will be there if QBs go 1-2-3-4. Could be very interesting.
I'd like to get Barkley, Chubb, or Fitz. Those guys are the elite game changers in this draft IMO. No trade down unless we can guarantee we can still get one of them
His Roc Nation handlers, however, don’t want him to be taken No. 1. They don’t want him in Cleveland. They want him to go second to the Giants and play in the media capital of the world. That’s where you can become the Face of the League. His manager even implored him to pull an Eli Manning and demand that the Browns not draft him. Barkley never considered the option. Sure, he likes the idea of being back in the city of his birth—even playing for the Jets, the team he grew up rooting for. And of course he’s heard countless people tell him that if he ends up in Cleveland, his career will be ruined.
Ed I disagree with you often but I have to concur on this one. I think Guice is the best back in this draft but all the draws, delayed handoffs and RPO's used by Haley would make Barkley the perfect back. I think Barkley and Duke in this system would be crazy effective. Could use 2 back sets with getting them out as receiving options. I am warming to the idea.u
I still haven't seen evidence that Barkley is a good, between the tackles runner. Continually bouncing it outside isn't going to work for him in the NFL.
I still think Guice will be a better NFL RB.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
I still haven't seen evidence that Barkley is a good, between the tackles runner. Continually bouncing it outside isn't going to work for him in the NFL.
I still think Guice will be a better NFL RB.
Well, I can tell you this: he is absolutely strong enough and explosive enough to run through anything. You cannot do this if you're not.
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