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Realistically, only the Bills have the draft capital to move up. The other teams mentioned would have to give up minumally the next 3 years of #1s to move up, I would think. I can't see any of them doing that. Maybe the Dolphins at 11 would not have to give up quite that much, but the others, forgettabout it.

That sounds great, but it helps to be real.

Might as well get the #1 in 2020 as well.

The dumb mock draft sites warp people’s minds.

Although I agree within the scope of your post - Others have "real players" to trade along with draft capital.

I agree. The bad thing is I think I posted the first link to one of those 3-4 years ago.

Ok, it was fun, but it turned in to a monster.....seems that people actually think there is some basis in reality.

You can't make all these trades and get all these picks, and you aren't going to be able to draft 2nd round talent in the 6th round.

Von Miller?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...rade-von-miller

Fluff piece sort of but maybe they are willing to deal with Miller?

j/c...

No chance I actually believe the Browns would trade out of one.

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Sure hope we don't trade out of the 1 spot

After 0-16, you don't trade out of #1.

My thought is yes... John said that and yes... they took him up on the "call me" but the phone call probably lasted a whole one minute, with 30 seconds of that just greeting one another.

Teams willing to drop that kind of capital on moving up in this draft, I perhaps really need to start wondering if #4 is going to be a cash-in deal for us. I was a Minkah fan but the Randall guy has lessened my want for him.

That was moreso the case before the Jets' deal went down. At least there was a good chance the Colts would have taken a non-QB at #3. Now, it's pretty certain QB will go 1,2,3. I don't think there will be a ransom at #4 as ther could have been before the Jets trade to now take the fourth QB....unless something crazy goes down and either Darnold or Rosen is available. But you won't know that until the Jets pick, most likely.

The Golden egg is now at #2 if NYG wants to trade out. The value of #4 has dropped significantly if you ask me.

by what I've been reading .. talk is the Jets are interested in Barkley or Chubb, now that Bridgewater passed his physical.

That would be shocking to me considering what they gave up.

Remember when Mike Holmgren offered everything to the Colts for Andrew Luck? Or when he offered everything to the Rams for Sam Bradford?

Teams that are picking a QB at #1 don't trade out.

I disagree although I respect your opinion, if the Giants take QB you have 2 teams that will pay whatever it takes to get that 4th QB, and to do so they must move ahead of Denver who also may want #4 to avoid being jumped, so the golden egg is still shining for us ... JMHO

j/c:

The Jets' trade confuses me. Logic tells us that they moved up to 3 to get a qb. However, I find a hard time believing that they think that 3 of these qbs are equal. I know that some fans and media types have all these guys rated evenly, but I would be astounded if they had the same grade on three different qbs.


They gave up a lot to move up 3 spots. They gave up the 6th overall and three second round picks. And how do they know their guy will still be there at 3?

A very perplexing situation.

I agree. I just think it's weird to believe they have 3 qbs rated equally.

I almost wonder if they like someone else a ton and have a strong feeling that the Browns would take a qb at 1 and their guy at 4. Barkley or Chubb could be that guy, I guess.

Then again, I agree w/all you guys who say that you don't make that kind of move for a guy who isn't a qb.

It's just a very weird trade.

NY Jet fans are going to get upset regardless. But, there's a lot to read into with the Jets and Baker connection and I think Baker will for sure be available to them.

I mean, let me summarize this... they got Teddy on a one year deal and some people were even skeptical if he'd pass a physical or not. I think at the end of the 4th quarter last year, they gave him a few snaps and his first pass was an INT and others were incomplete. They have a 38 year old, also on a one year deal, they stated will be the starter...

I'm betting they get Baker, but are extremely content on one of the other QBs too they're 100% certain one or the other will be available at 3. JMO on everything said.

Agree that it is odd.

This is all speculation - but I will guess that the Jets do not have 3 QBs rated equally at the top (I would be surprised if any team does), but that they have 3 QBs who they feel will be able to lead the team. My guess is that they approached Cle and the Giants about moving up to 1 or 2 and both teams really were not interested in trading out. So plan B is one of the top 3 QBs as that is as good as they could do. Sitting at 6 means they likely won't get any of the 3.

Again, speculation.

And no way did they do this for a non-QB.

I doubt they do have them rated equally, but they may have 3 rated high enough to justify taking that big a risk on even the 3rd best. And who knows, maybe the two teams ahead of them rate the QBs differently and the one they really want drops to them anyway.

Browns trade CB CJ Smith to the Seahawks for a 2020 7th round pick.

Who?

exactly

Says he played in three games but I cannot recall a #35 or Smith labeled jersey. Maybe special teams. I'll take the pic.

I have a strong feeling the giants are going non qb. Chubb is my guess.

It's not necessarily that the Jets have to have 3 guys rated equally. It's more that they should have 3 guys rated high enough to justify the trade up. They'd likely be willing to pay even more to get up to 1/2.

That said, I'm a bit perplexed by what the Jets are doing as well. Aren't most of us? Signing McCown, signing Bridgewater, spazzing 3 second rounders to move up 3 spots six weeks before the draft. Add this to the QBs they already have and it just seems like a mess.

I have a strong feeling a QB is going #2. The question is which team makes the pick.

Haus odds, place your bets:

Giants -200
Bills +300
Other +500

Agreed, I think QB goes 1,2,3

Wasn't the Cordy Glenn trade on the 12th? The Jets then signed McCown and Bridgewater as a backup plan, and started making their move to get up to 3 because they don't want to be left in the cold....

I reckon they're just hedging their bets

Both McCown and Bridgewater both signed 1 year contracts.
I hardly consider that prohibitive from drafting a Qb at #3

Absolutely not. They're 1 year contracts. With one guy who was injured for a lot of the time 2 of the last 3 years (and lets face it, Josh holds the ball too long!) and Teddy who, hasn't even taken a physical for the team to even check out his knee.



They saw Buffalo move up, they figured they had to do something, and they did.

The NY Media and most Jets fans I talk to seem pretty excited about it. They want to solve their QB problem too

The Cleveland Browns and Seattle Seahawks have agreed to the following trade:


Browns receive:

2020 conditional seventh-round pick

Seahawks receive:

DB C.J. Smith

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/arti...a8-0f3c831089e3

Wikipedia page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._J._Smith

C. J. Smith
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This article is about the American football player. For the ice hockey player, see C. J. Smith (ice hockey).
C. J. Smith
Seattle Seahawks
Position: Cornerback
Personal information
Born: May 10, 1993 (age 24)
Savage, Minnesota
Height: 5 ft 11 in (1.80 m)
Weight: 188 lb (85 kg)
Career information
High school: Burnsville (MN)
College: North Dakota State
Undrafted: 2016
Career history
Philadelphia Eagles (2016)
Cleveland Browns (2017)
Seattle Seahawks (2018–present)
Roster status: Active
Career highlights and awards
5× NCAA FCS national champion (2011–2015)
Second Team All-Pro (2017)
Career NFL statistics as of 2017
Total tackles: 88
Sacks: 0.5
Forced fumbles: 10
Pass deflections: 3
Interceptions: 14
Player stats at NFL.com
C. J. Smith (born May 10, 1993) is an American football cornerback for the Seattle Seahawks of the National Football League (NFL). He was signed by the Philadelphia Eagles as an undrafted free agent following the 2016 NFL Draft after playing college football at North Dakota State.

Contents
1 Professional career
1.1 Philadelphia Eagles
1.2 Cleveland Browns
1.3 Seattle Seahawks
2 References
3 External links
Professional career
Philadelphia Eagles
Smith signed with the Philadelphia Eagles after going undrafted in the 2016 NFL Draft. On September 4, 2016, he was released by the Eagles.[1] The next day, he was signed to the Eagles' practice squad.[2] He was promoted to the active roster on October 13, 2016.[3]

On September 2, 2017, Smith was waived by the Eagles and was signed to the practice squad the next day.[4][5] He was released on September 12, 2017.[6]

Cleveland Browns
On September 15, 2017, Smith was signed to the Cleveland Browns' practice squad.[7] He was promoted to the active roster on December 16, 2017.[8]

Seattle Seahawks
On March 19, 2018, Smith was traded to the Seattle Seahawks in exchange for a 2020 seventh-round pick.[9]


It is on the wiki page .. but 2nd team all-pro 2017 ????

I agree overall. I don't understand why they'd trade all of that to move up to 3 for a QB that may not be there. My hunch is they talked to the Giants and the Giants said no, we have our guy and told them it wasn't a QB. The Giants just took Davis Webb last year...and they think Eli can last a couple more years. I think they take Barkley, unless someone offers something crazy or it is us moving up for someone other than Barkley.

I'm baffled by the Jets...I can only think it is one of three things (a) they're in love with Nelson or Chubb and whichever it is is so much higher rated than everyone else that they thought it was a slam dunk to make the trade or (b) they like Mayfield, who could've been the 4th QB taken at #5 if Denver likes him. (But, I suspect if that were the case, they could have made us the same offer on draft day, and I'm sure we'd have taken it) or (c) they don't think we're taking a QB at #1 and want to get ahead of us.

It looks like they think three QBs can be long term starters, they know if they trade to pick three they get one of them.

Nobody trades that much to pick a non-QB.

DB C.J.Smith:

Let me see, this guy played about 5 NFL months total - had 88 tackles, 10 forced fumbles and 14 interceptions?

That can't be correct - are these his career stats from N.D> State?

If not, there's no way we could afford to trade this guy after playing with us for less than a month!

Something doesn't make sense - Wiki maybe?

nfl.com cleared it up - 2 tackles for career. Seattle thinks he's undervalued perhaps and will thrive in a situation better suited to him. Apparently, we don't think so.

It's a conditional 7th. In other words, the odds are probably against us ever seeing it.