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If we draft Mayfield or Rosen that's a good point and you could be right. However, I don't think we signed TT to be a back-up. That will be up to the coaches. Long way to go before the season starts. Yup. That's why I think we're pretty locked in on Darnold. Hue's press conference stating that Tyrod would be the 2018 starter. Made me say, "Hmm. I think we're going Darnold or Allen." Maybe I was reading into a press conference too closely, but if Tyrod is going to be the 2018 starter. No competition. Sounds like Darnold or Allen Yes, there's no competition this year. Taylor was announced the starter.
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If we draft Mayfield or Rosen that's a good point and you could be right. However, I don't think we signed TT to be a back-up. That will be up to the coaches. Long way to go before the season starts. Yup. That's why I think we're pretty locked in on Darnold. Hue's press conference stating that Tyrod would be the 2018 starter. Made me say, "Hmm. I think we're going Darnold or Allen." Maybe I was reading into a press conference too closely, but if Tyrod is going to be the 2018 starter. No competition. Sounds like Darnold or Allen Yes, there's no competition this year. Taylor was announced the starter. Which is only good for the first series of the first game.
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You are correct. But he did imply that. It was pretty clear. That's why 0 pundits have us picking Rosen. What other reason would there be for nobody having us pick Rosen?
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Which is only good for the first series of the first game. Depends on how you look at it. But yes. Things are always very fluid. But I'd imagine that Rosen and Mayfield would be getting the starter pre-season reps at the end of camp if we drafted them. All speculation on my part of course. Could be reading into Hue's interview a little too close. But that is what he said. No competition. Tyrod Taylor is the 2018 starter. I love Rosen and like Mayfield a lot. (Like Darnold a lot too)
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why is everyone assuming darnold is the guy, when every QB hasn't even had the pro days yet?
on top of that, they also met with Rosen, as well. why no hype? I think, because it’s a Darnold specific thread, the talk has turned more towards the assumption that if he’s on the team, now what? There’s been a lot of talk already about why or why not take him. So I think the chatter has just turned for conversation sake. No one knows who we’re taking. We’ve got another month to wait. So there’s going to be a lot of ‘weird’ conversations here while we wait. What else is there to talk about?
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i feel you, but the rosen thread has been fairly empty since the pro day
darnold threw in the rain. great.
was it raining when he turned the ball over 20 something times?
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i feel you, but the rosen thread has been fairly empty since the pro day
darnold threw in the rain. great.
was it raining when he turned the ball over 20 something times? lol, I hear ya man
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Darnold's pro day.
I wonder how many people noticed that in every movement throw that both hands were on the ball.
Did not hear one analyst mention it.
His fumbles if anyone watches were when he first made the movement from the pocket. His hands dropped and he carried the ball in one hand.
I know Jordon Palmer drilled him to infinity "two hands on the ball".
He will correct it. That is who he is.
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We disagree on the time each QB had. I think Darnold was constantly under pressure because his OL sucks, much as it was in the Ohio State game. I think Rosen had a lot more time to throw and looked more poised in the pocket because of this. Yep, we disagree. That's fine. However, I think some people are fooled when they see a qb pressured. Think back to Charlie Frye. Everyone was bashing the OL because he was sacked and "pressured" so much, but he gets benched and DA isn't pressured as much. Why? Because DA got rid of the ball and didn't run into sacks. Same thing happened w/Weeden and Hoyer. People were saying we had the worst OL in football w/Weeden. Yet, Hoyer comes in and the OL started playing "good." Also...........I did want posters to listen to Herbstriet. It was his belief that Darnold should stay another year in school because he has a lot to work on. He also was praising Rosen for his accuracy, making NFL throws, and how he didn't need cards on the sidelines and how all 11 guys weren't looking to the sidelines. Everyone else just got up and returned to huddle or lined-up while Rosen looked over and took care of everything else. I think a lot of people miss the nuances that very good NFL qbs are capable of. I was hoping some would want to educate themselves. But hey..............it is what it is.
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I'm inferring that he is implying. So you're suggesting that he's suggesting. lmao Only on Dawgtalkers can a thread that's supposed to be about Darnold be turned into a trash Rosen thread!
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I really LOVED that ... shows hes coachable ...
This kid has a shot to be real special ... real special ...
People tend to forget he’s only 20 years old ...
If we take him ... let’s HOPE he’s as coachable as he appears to be and he works hard and fulfill all his potential ...
I like Rosen a lot also ... and i initially said its a toss up with me wanting Sam cause of the concussions and build ... after watching ALL THE FILM on both QB’s i actually like Sam a wee bit more cause of his potential ...
Rosen is definetly way more pro ready than Sam TODAY and is a lot further along technically ... as he should be ... as u always point out ... thats all fine and dandy ... but what really matters is WHERE DO THEY PROJECT 3 OR 4 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD IN THE NFL ...
I also have NO CLUE why some think hes going to be the pick ... from what i can tell these guys haven’t shown their hands one iota ... as they shouldn’t ...
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Watching Darnold's Pro Day Cemented Him as the Number 1 Pick IMO ... 
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Yeah, I know watching a kid throw the football in shorts with no defense on the field would convince me EVERY TIME! lmao
Now watching Haslam schmooze his family? Yeah, maybe.
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Inferring and implying are not the same thing if that is what you are intimating.
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Inferring and implying are not the same thing if that is what you are intimating. I think that is what he is insinuating.
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We have a vet QB in TT and some really good coaches that can teach him and bring him along slowly. Let's do it right this time. Agreed. Unless our QB is Baker Mayfield or Josh Rosen. Those two are ready to roll IMO. Mayfield isn't backup to anyone. Not his MO, lol and I maintain, that Tyrod Taylor wouldn't beat out Josh Rosen in camp. Rosen is already a more polished passer, and with a full camp, will give us a better chance to win than Taylor Even Darnold could end up starting the season. How many times have we heard, "He's going to sit until he's ready" only to see the rookie start that year if not start the season. Make no mistake, if we take Darnold, and he's out performing TT in camp, Darnold will be the starter, IMO. On another note, I do think Rosen is the most polished, day one QB in the draft but I think the concussion issue and smaller frame has more to do with leanings toward Darnold than any character or "doesn't want to play here" concerns. I know that's my reason for taking him at one, for whatever that's worth.
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And I see NO way that he can match the number of turnovers, strip sacks, picks, and blown drives that Kizer continued to treat us to. Get him; work him, shape him. TTwo is a starter. We have quite a march ahead of us. This is a positive. Barkley could help.
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I don't know when he gets his chance but I stick to what I've always said and that's that this kid, wherever he may land, will be a dynamic team leader. He could well develop into a get on my back and let's win type QB. Time will tell but I like this kids mentality.
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I have a feeling Darnold will be our pick. I'd rather have Rosen or Mayfield, but that's life.
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Already meeting the parents, huh? The courting is moving along rather quickly. Are they his agents like Jacksons mom is for him ...  ... smokescreen some will say, but honestly, with the 1st overall pick, does that matter? Im calling it, we are looking at the parents of the next browns qb.
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So I just came across an article: http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2018/03/ex-giant_chris_canty_giants_mostly_interested_in_s.htmlAccording to Chris Canty, who is said to be very connected to the Giants, The Giants are enamored with Sam Darnold, and that he is the only quarterback that they are interested in drafting. He is speculating that they want him so bad that they could trade UP to the Browns to get him, giving up possibly as much as next years 1st round pick. This is clearly just speculation, but would you do it? And furthermore, what if all of this attention we are giving Darnold is all a game to try to convince the Giants we are going to take him. Is Dorsey that savvy? If Dorsey is 100% go on Darnold, I say we take him and don't look back. But if he isn't, then I have a REALLY difficult time not taking a 1st round pick to move back one spot. Doing this would assure you of the second QB taken, would assure you the top non-QB player (assuming the Jets take a QB at 3). I know speculation and smoke screens are everywhere, but this idea really caught me off guard. What does everyone else think?
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I know speculation and smoke screens are everywhere, but this idea really caught me off guard. What does everyone else think? I want us to select the guy that we think is the best. Not sure how we would know who the Giants think is best. Why would they trade up to number 1 and tell us who they were going to take? Seems crazy to me. So, yeah. I don't want any guess work. I want us to select the Quarterback we think is best. Not the best at our pick. The best, period
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If Darnold is both NY and our guy then all I'd say to that is... we pick first. Take care now, bye bye then.
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L_R_D, I have been sold on Darnold since the 2017 Rose Bowl when he lead his team to a comeback win against the better Penn State team. When he started this last season, his deficiencies started to show, and yes, he has deficiencies. But his they are in areas that can be improved. What makes him stand out are qualities that can't be taught.
I'm not a QB expert, so I can't break down his mechanics and point out what he needs to change. But I can see his natural leadership. You can learn to be a good leader, but natural leadership is innate, it can't be taught or learned. You either have it, or you don't. He does. And that is why I think he is special.
If the Giants want him and none of the other top QB's, that tells you something. I have always respected the Giants organization as one of the best in the business. They know how to build a team. To me, that just reinforces that we should just take Darnold and not look back.
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I have said multiple times that Darnold and Mason are the 2 QBs that fit our system the best. So to me it just makes sense they are doing their research on Darnold like they should be.
Could it be smoke and mirrors? Sure, but I think it's a legit interest. Would the giants first round pick next year persuade them to draft Rosen instead? They would be crazy not to.
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If we have determined him as THE GUY...people can offer Gold and we won't trade. If somebody else is THE GUY then make the trade and pick that somebody else at #2.
But I think 90% sure that Darnold is THE GUY!
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Yea, if Darnold was their pick I don’t think Allens pro day changed their mind. I thought Darnold moved better in and out of the pocket. Next stop Louisville.
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So I just came across an article: http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2018/03/ex-giant_chris_canty_giants_mostly_interested_in_s.htmlAccording to Chris Canty, who is said to be very connected to the Giants, The Giants are enamored with Sam Darnold, and that he is the only quarterback that they are interested in drafting. He is speculating that they want him so bad that they could trade UP to the Browns to get him, giving up possibly as much as next years 1st round pick. They’d have to give up their 2nd this year and their 1st next year. That’s the only way . This is clearly just speculation, but would you do it? And furthermore, what if all of this attention we are giving Darnold is all a game to try to convince the Giants we are going to take him. Is Dorsey that savvy? If Dorsey is 100% go on Darnold, I say we take him and don't look back. But if he isn't, then I have a REALLY difficult time not taking a 1st round pick to move back one spot. Doing this would assure you of the second QB taken, would assure you the top non-QB player (assuming the Jets take a QB at 3). I know speculation and smoke screens are everywhere, but this idea really caught me off guard. What does everyone else think?
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So I just came across an article: http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2018/03/ex-giant_chris_canty_giants_mostly_interested_in_s.htmlAccording to Chris Canty, who is said to be very connected to the Giants, The Giants are enamored with Sam Darnold, and that he is the only quarterback that they are interested in drafting. He is speculating that they want him so bad that they could trade UP to the Browns to get him, giving up possibly as much as next years 1st round pick. This is clearly just speculation, but would you do it? And furthermore, what if all of this attention we are giving Darnold is all a game to try to convince the Giants we are going to take him. Is Dorsey that savvy? If Dorsey is 100% go on Darnold, I say we take him and don't look back. But if he isn't, then I have a REALLY difficult time not taking a 1st round pick to move back one spot. Doing this would assure you of the second QB taken, would assure you the top non-QB player (assuming the Jets take a QB at 3). I know speculation and smoke screens are everywhere, but this idea really caught me off guard. What does everyone else think? I would only even consider it if two QBs were very close and there was a legitimate debate on which one to pick. It's hard to give an answer without knowing how these guys are rated. My feeling is that Darnold is the guy and the #1 pick is not available.
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So I just came across an article: http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2018/03/ex-giant_chris_canty_giants_mostly_interested_in_s.htmlAccording to Chris Canty, who is said to be very connected to the Giants, The Giants are enamored with Sam Darnold, and that he is the only quarterback that they are interested in drafting. He is speculating that they want him so bad that they could trade UP to the Browns to get him, giving up possibly as much as next years 1st round pick. They’d have to give up their 2nd this year and their 1st next year. That’s the only way . This is clearly just speculation, but would you do it? And furthermore, what if all of this attention we are giving Darnold is all a game to try to convince the Giants we are going to take him. Is Dorsey that savvy? If Dorsey is 100% go on Darnold, I say we take him and don't look back. But if he isn't, then I have a REALLY difficult time not taking a 1st round pick to move back one spot. Doing this would assure you of the second QB taken, would assure you the top non-QB player (assuming the Jets take a QB at 3). I know speculation and smoke screens are everywhere, but this idea really caught me off guard. What does everyone else think? So they're trading us OBJ and a future first or what?
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I'm officially cosigning on Sam Darnold at #1
Look at #4 as our #1 pick, we have enough picks, we need players.
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If we trade out of the first pick I'm going to be pissed!!!! I wouldn't be that because you don't know who we want. If we know who they want, and it isn't who we want, I'd be ticked if we didn't trade. You don't think so?
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When we give him a frozen wet football and see that he can hold onto it, then we will be ready to turn in the card. Drama Queen much? Let's give ALL of them a frozen wet ball. REALLY?
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When we give him a frozen wet football and see that he can hold onto it, then we will be ready to turn in the card. Drama Queen much? Let's give ALL of them a frozen wet ball. REALLY? Yes, any QB who comes to Cleveland should have to deal with that scenario because it does happen. It's a good test for the WRs too.
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