DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Browns may pick starting QB sooner than later

Wanna bet a trade happens about 20 minutes after they pick their guy?

http://www.ohio.com/sports/8844887.html

Browns may pick starting QB soon
Decision could come after 1st preseason game

By Patrick McManamonBeacon Journal sportswriter

Published on Wednesday, Aug 01, 2007

BEREA: The Browns' quarterback situation might be decided sooner than expected. General Manager Phil Savage said Tuesday that the Browns would like to have a pretty good idea of the team's direction at quarterback after the first preseason game Aug. 11.

''We'd like to get this thing narrowed down pretty quick,'' Savage said.

If the Browns stick to that plan, Derek Anderson and Charlie Frye have 10 more practices and one game to try to win the job for the opener.

An early decision would not seem, though, to bode well for Brady Quinn, who has not yet signed a contract.

''I can't answer that,'' Savage said when asked how the situation would affect Quinn. Quinn's absence can't help. He missed four days of ''rookie camp'' and now has missed five more days of full-team camp.

''He's pretty far behind be cause we got a lot of offense and we're putting it in every day,'' coach Romeo Crennel said. ''It takes a while to get caught up.''

Quinn already has botched one opportunity.

Crennel said had he signed prior to camp, he'd have gotten the same number of practice reps as Frye and Anderson.

''He would have been in the mix,'' Crennel said.

Now when Quinn does sign, Crennel said he'd put him ''probably last on the depth chart and (let him) try to work his way up.''

''Eventually they're going to come to a meeting,'' Crennel said. ''Now how long that takes, I'm not sure. But I can't worry about the ones who are not here.''

On the first day of camp, Crennel referred to Quinn as ''the quarterback.'' He called Frye and Anderson by name, saying they were in camp.

Crennel was a little more coy about when he'll decide who starts, saying he hasn't even decided who will start the first practice game.

''I don't have a time frame,'' he said. ''Whenever I feel the time is right then I'm going to do it. What, many times, a coach hopes for is that somebody just pulls away and he makes an easy decision for a coach.''

That has not happened in this camp, as Frye and Anderson have been um inconsistent.

Is one ahead now?

''It looks like Wimbley is doing pretty good to me,'' Crennel said, referring to linebacker Kamerion Wimbley.

Savage said he had not seen one quarterback taking control, either.

''We're kind of in the middle of it,'' he said.

If Frye or Anderson had taken hold of the job, it might look even bleaker for Quinn's short-term hopes.

But that hasn't happened.

One day one throws some good passes and the other struggles. The next day the roles are reversed.

Tuesday, Crennel concluded practice with two-minute drills, the first of camp.

Anderson worked with the starters and the unit went nowhere.

Frye worked with the backups and led the offense to the 18-yard line, but threw an end-zone interception on the last play of the simulated situation (the offense needed a touchdown).

''Both of them, I don't think they were effective enough in that drill,'' Crennel said, though he did add that the more they do it the better they will get.

Earlier, Anderson almost threw an interception to Sean Jones, and Frye had a pass knocked down by nose tackle Ted Washington.

Frye said he thinks he's doing ''really well'' in camp, while Anderson tries to low-key things, saying he just has to take advantage when he gets a chance.

''We'll see who inches ahead,'' Crennel said. noweb

Well no one is trying to Paint a Rosie QB. Picture , thats for sure !

Phil saying this is just trying to get Brady Quinn into camp.

Quote:

---

''probably last on the depth chart and (let him) try to work his way up.''

---

Sounds good coach - Quinn better get signed soon... he's got an uphill battle.

I guess it may be a safe guess to say if Frye or Anderson don't win the QB job he will be traded to the Falcons.

We forgot to ask the most important question......


Who are the Broowns??

Good. I couldn't care less what the number and name on the back of the jersey of the starting QB say as long as they're the best one for the job.

oooooo

Hope you're ok YTown... I'll keep my nit-picking to a minimum.

Sounds like someone has said they will be interested in either if it happens soon enough.. Trading a guy late in camp diminishes his value to the other team...they want him semi ready opening day.

This is good...we don't need both Anderson and Frye.

One or the other...Dorsey is good enough as 2nd string until Quinn moves to first team.

All of these camp reports have done two things to me when thinking about the qb situation:

--Make me glad we moved up to get Quinn. I didn't have any reservations initially - and only a very few recently - but those few are gone now. It was the right move.

--Make me believe that Quinn will be the best quarterback on the team the day he signs and will play sooner rather than later.

I like diorsey and have been pimping him longer than anyone.


He is a perfect 3rd stringer...we are lucky to have him.

The problem with Quinn is that he needs to be in camp to be able to do that. He isnt there so it doesnt matter. I have a hard time believing that the new offense isnt hampering the QB play a little but at the same time I am not so sure that we all dont need to recalibrate our expectations for the QB position right now.

IMO they need to make a decision asap. That way the qb can get used to the system and line can start to gel. If we pick a qb in the third preseason game or after, the line wont gell the qb wont be ready, and we will get blown up the first six games.

Ya know i really think Charlie will win the job. I like what he puts into it, BUT sooner or later talent will win out and that's why we need Brady in here. When he finally makes it to camp he could learn some good work ethic from Charlie.

nordawg

I sure hope you are right nordawg.............I had Quinn pegged as another Charlie Frye before the draft. I hope we didn't get two of the same here. Like the others said, I just want the best QB to win the job. I want someone, ANYONE to step up, stop making mistakes and win us some darn games.

I agree, everyone heard Chud when he said he has different systems that utilize each players strengths and weaknesses. And waiting to put in another system halfway through camp would be a bad bad thing.

In my mine Chuck will be the starting QB going in we'll go from there. I was there this morning and everyone of them was pooping it up, Frye(overthrowing or just good defense) Anderson(just flat out missing open guys!? ) and Dorsey(throwing nice tight spiral balls, but also missing.

But toward the end of the simulated offensive drills Frye made a pass to Edwards, who made a diving catch for a TD. No matter how the practice may have went it was nice to see Frye try to rebound himself.

If our QB can throw ten yards down field and hand the ball off... We are good to go.. no matter who it is.
Rock'em Sock'em football

And exactly what is it you've "seen him do in the NFL" that leads you to believe that Peen?

He's not Charlie or Derek.....LOL

Either that or Peen thinks he's from Florida not Miami......

I've always said the same thing.. .Dorsey is the best 3rd string QB we can ask for... He will never create a QB controversey and he will be able to come in a pinch with the knowlege of the game and his ability to teach will be a huge asset.

If we are looking to trade the one quarterback who isnt named the starter, who do you think the teams looking to aquire a QB would rather get Charlie or Derek? Do you think there is a preference between the two?

Reading this makes me feel sorry for Romeo,and by extension we fans.Choosing a starter between this group has to be difficult.
We have "The Savior" sweating his ass off in Arizona,wishing he were here.All the while waiting on that big payday.
Then we have the guy that's gonna make a very good back-up,someday.
The big armed kid,who's always gonna have a place in NFL.Becauce some offensive "genius"with a big ego will be thinking he's the one who can make him a QB.
And then the perfect 3rd stringer.I've yet to figure out what special attributes it takes to wear a baseball cap backwards,wear headphones,and hold a clipboard.

I'm sure that hearing that Frye and Anderson look as though a high school kid could beat them for the starting job is gonna motivate Quinn to get here quicker. He'll take his good old time, sign in within a couple weeks, but will still probably start most of the games this season due to ineffective QB play from Frye/DA and probably not do to well himself...but he'll get paid, right? If he knows what's good for him he'd get in here asap and learn the system as soon as he can so when he does get forced into action he'll be knowledgable enough to be somewhat effective.

My thoughts on all this is that the coach already knows what he is going to do and which QB he is going to start. Unless the other guy does a sudden u-turn and becomes Superman his opinion will not be changed.

He has seen both of these quarterbacks for quite sometime. All of last year and the year before that. He already knows what he has in each of them.

There's nothing wrong with healthy competition. It makes everyone better.

We hear nothing, and mean n-o-t-h-i-n-g from the coach or the team as to what is actually going on with that competition. And we won't hear anything either.

They dont see it as any of our business and they're right. It's none of our business until they make it our business.

We take snippits of the coach's responses to media questions and try and build out of it a therory of what it means. It means nothing. The coach has to answer the questions so he does. He tells the media what he wants the media to hear. Once in a while he will tell them what they want to hear. Either way it means nothing at this point.

We hear what the local media thinks about the competition but they know nothing. They take an isolated practice here and another there and try themselves to build something out of nothing. There's been less than a week of practice. There's been nothing to see.

When there is something to see, the media will no longer be allowed to watch.

National media visits but there is nothing for them to see either. They too offer their opinion and observations but it all means nothing.

No one knows a thing.

When a starter has been named there will be some who will say "I told you so". But really, their's was just a lucky guess.

This is not to put down anyone pimping their own choice. We all think we know something. That is why we're here. We want to learn as much as possible so we can formulate our own opinions and hope that we are right.

It's what fans do. But in the end, it doesn't matter.

The coach will name a QB and that is who will start...and he will not give one bit of information to us until he does. Then he'll explain his reasoning.

Hopefully it won't be a "gut feeling".

Quote:

---

Charlie...he's been getting beat up and chased since he's been here. I would like to see "how much he can improve" with a good OL.

---

Me too.

smart is the best trait a 3rd qb can have. a guy who knows the game inside and out and is a student of the game. I don't think, and national sports media have also said that frye/anderson are better students of the game than dorsey. We don't need two fryes/andersons on the bench with quinn. Plus most qbs that have a chance to start somewhere or be a number is going to want to sit 3rd, this includes frye or anderson. Dorsey is a guy who could be an additional qb coach on the sideline and a good team player for years to come for us, maybe not in the sense of playing on the field, but in the sense of hellping our starter and 2 in game and film prep and in being a good locker room leader.

I'm rooting for Frye, I believe he gives us a better chance to win... My favorite QB is Quinn but he isn't there.

Heck I'll pimp Ken... he's basically a second QB coach who will never see the field during the regular season... pimp all you want.

hahaha - as long as every fourth one is a TD I'm cool with that

Again I don't think that the QB will make much difference this year. We just need a QB who can protect the ball and hand the thing off...

I'd love for Quinn to be the QB by week 6 or 7... but that's not my choice. I think it'll be Charlie with us getting rid of Anderson one way or another... not because he's a bad QB just that we have to get rid of one. Ken is cheaper and I think he'll do a better job at mentoring than Anderson would.

I think it's bogus that we trade Anderson or Frye. First of all their value is roughly a 7th round draft pick, and if one gets hurt early in the year we will be forced to play Quinn (if he signs that is) before he really has practiced that much and taken in the playbook. Dorsey is good in the filmroom and is willing to hold the clipboard - So what!?, if we want him to do that make him a coach not a guy taking up one of our valuable 53 roster spots. I am not really rooting for any one of them to win the job either, but I am doubting that Anderson is any better than Frye for the team. I think we're gonna have to just suck up the Frye/DA era until Quinn develops in a year or two into a good QB.

(not pointing this post at any one poster, just hit reply to a random post btw)

I see the start of the season depth chart looking like this:

1. Frye
2. Dorsey
3. Quinn

I have a feeling that Anderson will be let go, like you said Jay, not because he's a bad player, but because we don't have a spot for him. I think RAC has made up his mind about Frye, and he's just making 100% sure these next few weeks.

I think across the NFL Charlie would have more trade value b/c of where he was selected and the fact that he has started more games.

I don't look at the current competition between Frye Baby and Anderson as a starting QB competition it is more a competition as to who is going to be a back up and who is going they're marry way.

The sad part about this is some of you think either one of these guys can be anything but a back up in the entire NFL. I would'nt be a bit surprised if neither one are in the league by the 2009 season.

The homers continue to amaze me!