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Report: Bills release Ryan Davis
Posted by Charean Williams on March 23, 2018, 7:16 PM EDT

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The Bills released defensive end Ryan Davis, Eric Edholm of Pro Football Weekly reports.

Davis, 29, was scheduled to make a base salary of $1.125 million in 2018. The Bills will save $1.225 million against their cap, according to overthecap.com.

Davis spent only one season in Buffalo, making three sacks and 26 tackles.

He previously played in Jacksonville and Dallas and has 14 career sacks.

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New York Jets made biggest offer to Ndamukong Suh

By Kevin Patra
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Published: March 23, 2018 at 03:16 p.m. Updated: March 23, 2018 at 07:18 p.m.

A new candidate in the Ndamukong Suh sweepstakes has come to play.

Suh told Yahoo Sports' Jordan Schultz the New York Jets emerged as a serious contender for his services. No visit to New York has been made, but the Jets and coach Todd Bowles informed Suh how they envision using him, per Schultz.

NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport added that the Jets have made the biggest offer, despite not visiting with Suh.


The defensive tackle, who was cut by the Miami Dolphins earlier this month, has taken visits to the Tennessee Titans, New Orleans Saints and Los Angeles Rams. Suh canceled a visit with the Oakland Raiders earlier this week.

With the Jets able to offer the most money, Suh would have to take a lesser deal with one of the other teams viewed as more readily able to contend for a Super Bowl title.

This could be a crossroads decision for Suh's career. Does he continue to play for the highest bidder like a savvy businessman, or does he take less cash for a greater chance to win?

The Jets' sudden leap into the fray -- and Suh's willingness to speak on the record about it -- suggests the money could win out. New York would also provide similar off-the-field business benefits to Suh that he could find in Los Angeles, even if he's joining a Jets squad amid a rebuild.

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Terrelle Pryor agrees to terms with the Jets, per reports

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Still didn't say what they paid him.


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I'd expect Pryor to get a 1 year, 6 million dollar deal


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Still didn't say what they paid him.



All it said was it was far more than we were willing to pay.


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Man, the Jets have been very active and are spending a lot of money.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Man, the Jets have been very active and are spending a lot of money.


And unless I missed something, it looks like Suh is headed their way.


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not sure how Suh fits in to a 3-4


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Which team are you talking about?

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the Jets supposedly have the highest offer and have a plan for how to use Suh in their defense


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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They might be a 3-4 team, but they use multiple fronts. If Suh signs, they will find ways to give him 40 or more snaps a game.


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Man, the Jets have been very active and are spending a lot of money.


Their FO and Coaching staff are on thin Ice..Jet fans have not been happy campers. Believe or not many are PO'd that they actually won some games. Claiming that they cannot even Tank correctly....lol laugh

I'm thinking that the Jets are in WIN Now mode and looking to possibly take advantage of a building Dolphin and Bills team and possibly a lack of talent in NE for them to vie for the Division title.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Man, the Jets have been very active and are spending a lot of money.


Their FO and Coaching staff are on thin Ice..Jet fans have not been happy campers. Believe or not many are PO'd that they actually won some games. Claiming that they cannot even Tank correctly....lol laugh

I'm thinking that the Jets are in WIN Now mode and looking to possibly take advantage of a building Dolphin and Bills team and possibly a lack of talent in NE for them to vie for the Division title.

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Per source, the Redskins have withdrawn their latest offer to Junior Galette. Several teams remain in play including Cleveland and a reunion with Scot McCloughan who originally brought the edge rushing specialist to Washington. The Rams have also had discussions. #redskins


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Wonder what's up with Galette


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Redskins withdraw contract offer to Junior Galette
By Rich Tandler March 23, 2018 9:15 AM


The Redskins week that was—D-line scoop, Alex Smith's big deal

WR Washington's numbers don't impress but he could be a solution

Redskins withdraw contract offer to Galette

Redskins likely to return at least 16 of their 22 starters from last year

Looking at the details of Zach Brown's contract with the Redskins
It looks like the Redskins are moving on from Junior Galette.

Citing a team source, Chick Hernandez of NBC Sports Washington is reporting that the team has withdrawn its contract offer to Galette, the veteran pass rusher who finally got on the field last year after missing all of his first two seasons in Washington with injuries. He is an unrestricted free agent.

The Redskins may have a replacement for Galette lined up. They had former Bear Pernell McPhee in for a visit earlier this week and there was a report that they made him a contract offer after that. McPhee subsequently visited the Falcons facility, but he has not signed anywhere. However, there have been no reports that a deal is imminent as of this morning.


As for Galette, Hernandez mentions two possible destinations. One is the Browns, who have two key connections to Galette. Scot McCloughan, the former Redskins GM who signed Galette after he was cut by the Saints after the 2014 season is in the personnel department in Cleveland. In addition, Gregg Williams, who was the Saints’ defensive coordinator when Galette made the team as an undrafted rookie, currently has the same position with the Browns.

Another possibility is the Rams. The connections there are Joe Barry, the linebackers coach in LA who was Redskins’ defensive coordinator during Galette’s first two years with the team, and head coach Sean McVay, who was the offensive coordinator in Washington while Galette was on the other side of the ball.

Galette has said on social media lately that his first choice is to remain with the Redskins but that the money had to be “fair”. The interest in a return to Washington was mutual but evidently, the organization’s idea of fair and Galette’s differed by too great a margin to bridge the gap.

Last year, Galette didn’t have an impressive sack total, getting three in a backup role. But he got plenty of pressure on the quarterback and that can be just as important as sacks.

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Allen Hurns signs two-year deal with Dallas Cowboys

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Allen Hurns signs two-year deal with Dallas Cowboys

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Iwonder if we offered anything...


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Roundup: Raiders agree to terms with Reggie Nelson

By Edward Lewis NFL.com
Published: March 24, 2018 at 10:47 a.m. Updated: March 24, 2018 at 03:21 p.m.

Jon Gruden and the Oakland Raiders are making sure a familiar face doesn't get away in free agency.

NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Saturday that veteran free safety Reggie Nelson agreed to terms with the Raiders on a one-year deal.


Nelson, who spent the past two seasons roaming Oakland's defensive backfield, has big-time familiarity with Gruden's new defensive coordinator Paul Guenther. Guenther was a coach on the Bengals' staff in some capacity, including several years as the team's DC, during Nelson's entire tenure in Cincinnati (which spanned from 2010 to 2015).

Nelson earned his first-ever Pro Bowl nod playing in Guenther's scheme in 2015, logging a career-high eight interceptions. Now, at age 34, he'll have the chance to help show some of his Raider teammates how to thrive in the new system.

Here are other free agency notes we're tracking Saturday:

1. The Atlanta Falcons announced they agreed to terms with cornerback Justin Bethel.

2. Former Chiefs cornerback Phillip Gaines will visit the Bills next week, NFL Network's Mike Garafolo reported. Gaines visited the Colts earlier this week.

3. The Seattle Seahawks are signing former Vikings defensive lineman Shamar Stephen to a one-year deal, NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported.

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Originally Posted By: eotab
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Man, the Jets have been very active and are spending a lot of money.


Their FO and Coaching staff are on thin Ice..Jet fans have not been happy campers. Believe or not many are PO'd that they actually won some games. Claiming that they cannot even Tank correctly....lol laugh

I'm thinking that the Jets are in WIN Now mode and looking to possibly take advantage of a building Dolphin and Bills team and possibly a lack of talent in NE for them to vie for the Division title.

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This is why I think they are targeting Mayfield. Under McCown's tutelage, Mayfield would excell.

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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
They might be a 3-4 team, but they use multiple fronts. If Suh signs, they will find ways to give him 40 or more snaps a game.


There is no such thing as a 4-3 team or a 3-4 team. To survive in the NFL today every team uses multiple fronts.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
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They might be a 3-4 team, but they use multiple fronts. If Suh signs, they will find ways to give him 40 or more snaps a game.


There is no such thing as a 4-3 team or a 3-4 team. To survive in the NFL today every team uses multiple fronts.


All defenses use different formations but there are some very distinct differences between a base 3-4 and a base 4-3 defense.

A 3-4 base defensive front usually plug a mammoth of a man at nose tackle and play 4-3 DT's at DE. Then take 4-3 defensive ends and play them at OLB if they are athletic enough to drop into coverage. The purpose of the defense is to stop the run by clogging the middle and letting the linebackers run free. Then on passing downs have more speed on the field and attack the QB from any angle.

A base 4-3 usually has 2 gap run stuffers up the middle at DT then have DE's that can set an edge against the run and get after the QB on passing downs. OLB's are equally skilled in coverage as pass rushers. Middle linebackers usually attack down hill and should be top tackler in run defense. The 4-3 DE's are much smaller than 3-4 DE's and the OLB's are smaller than 3-4 OLB's. The middle linebacker is usually larger than 3-4 ILB's. The 4-3 is designed to build a slid wall up front and have the middle linebacker make a ton of tackles at the line of scrimmage. Then get a solid push in the middle to collapse the pocket and have DE's sacking the QB from the outside.


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true all teams play multiple front.

True all teams have a base scheme that is there primary defense.

That bas e scheme for the jets is a 3-4, if you watch Suh he plays with too much lean in a effort t penetrate, as a 3-4 NT that lean and the subsequent double team he will invariably get will allow an offense to turn hum, both limit his momentum to penetrate and will create holes in the middle for the run game.

By sending the off guard to the second level that will pin the ILB and let the RB cut off his butt and cut to the hash marks and game outside leverage on the defense, think Danny Shelton from two years ago without the increased push.

Now the downside of this is the use of three to block/ shield two and IF..... IF you have two active ILB that gap can be mitigated... which is why I screamed for better ILB's for the browns for years.

Will Suh still be a force, yes he will, but not as much as in a 4-3 base.


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If you play Suh in 34 and still want him to penetrate you can't play him at NT you play him at RDE and let the NT and LDE 2-gap while you allow Suh to be Suh.

Kinda like what Wade did with Bruce Smith

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Base is an extinct concept. Teams' base defense is now whatever they run with two (or one) linebacker on the field.

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Ndamukong Suh - DL - Free Agent

Jets CEO Christopher Johnson told reporters at the NFL Owners Meetings the team has rescinded their offer to free agent Ndamukong Suh.

The Jets initially emerged as the top landing spot for Suh given their abundance of cap space. New York had reportedly presented the "biggest offer" to him, but it's possible Suh was only using the team to leverage an even larger offer from the Rams, who now appear to be the favorites to sign him. The Titans and Saints also remain in the mix.

Related: Saints, Jets, Titans

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Base is an extinct concept. Teams' base defense is now whatever they run with two (or one) linebacker on the field.


This is why the running back is starting to gain momentum and coming back into prominence. Take linebackers off the field and watch teams ram the ball right down the defenses throat on the ground. Defenses must stop the run first and foremost.


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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Base is an extinct concept. Teams' base defense is now whatever they run with two (or one) linebacker on the field.


This crusade is eerily similar to the one you ran last year when you said that our Mike would play 5 percent or less on defensive plays.

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Base is an extinct concept. Teams' base defense is now whatever they run with two (or one) linebacker on the field.


This is why the running back is starting to gain momentum and coming back into prominence. Take linebackers off the field and watch teams ram the ball right down the defenses throat on the ground. Defenses must stop the run first and foremost.


It's the offense's responsibility to get the defense into these personnel. A thing we failed at this year.

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Base is an extinct concept. Teams' base defense is now whatever they run with two (or one) linebacker on the field.


This crusade is eerily similar to the one you ran last year when you said that our Mike would play 5 percent or less on defensive plays.



Are you really going to try to buck a league wide trend by pointing out the Brown's success?

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Nope. I simply think he is overstating it.

FYI: I was the first poster on this board to bring up the percentage of nickel defenses in the NFL. I completely understand it. cfrs just went too far w/the 5 percent thing. I think he is going too far again.

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Nope. I simply think he is overstating it.

FYI: I was the first poster on this board to bring up the percentage of nickel defenses in the NFL. I completely understand it. cfrs just went too far w/the 5 percent thing. I think he is going too far again.


Yup. He's saying we're going to get rid of one of our starting LBs. Our starting LBs are great IMO.

Our defense didn't really go down the tubes till Burgess had to replace Jamie Collins after that fat guard on the Lions cheapshotted Collins and rolled up on his ankle after Collins' interception.

God that still makes me pissed. I really wish we had an enforcer or something that could have gotten back the Lions for that.

Eye for an eye. You take out Collins, we take out Stafford.


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No offense, but I don't think Burgess was much of a downgrade. I think he was better in pass defense and lot faster than Collins.

Collins looks the part, but the dawg is kind of a dog. I think he's been very disappointing.

And I hate saying that after you just agreed w/me on this thread and our disagreement on another thread. I promise you that I am NOT messing w/you. We just see some things differently. I think you are one of the better posters on here. Hopefully, there are no hard feelings.

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And I hate saying that after you just agreed w/me on this thread and our disagreement on another thread. I promise you that I am NOT messing w/you. We just see some things differently. I think you are one of the better posters on here. Hopefully, there are no hard feelings.


Nope, just one of those things we disagree on.

I didn't really notice how good Collins was till he went down. Burgess reminds me of BBC. Always a step too late to the big play.

But, some folks on here thought Burgess was good. I think he did his best and tried hard. But he's no Jamie Collins. Not even close


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Again, we disagree. I think Burgess was better than Collins.

I don't think the PFF grades are gospel like many do on here, but I am pretty sure that Burgess had a much higher grade than Collins.

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Again, we disagree. I think Burgess was better than Collins.

I don't think the PFF grades are gospel like many do on here, but I am pretty sure that Burgess had a much higher grade than Collins.


Maybe Burgess did. But, from my eyes, things were going well in that game, then Collins went down.

And as soon as Collins went down, the defense as a whole started performing worse. Just what I saw. But, just me, a regular fan, watching the game. Screaming about how we need payback on that Lions Guard, and throwing a fit at that Defensive Tackle that wouldn't get off Deshone Kizer to end the half.



Although, I have tried to begin calming down when I watch the games. I hope to have a family soon enough, and me screaming and swearing at the television would set a bad example. Dog doesn't seem to care, although sometimes I freak out my best buddy's girlfriend


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