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Josh Allen 37
Josh Rosen 29
Sam Darnold 28
Baker Mayfield 25
Lamar Jackson 13

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I e been waiting to see these, I know they’re not an end all to QB smarts but still like to see them.

That’s actually surprising, Allen’s score being that high, I thought he’d do well but not that high.

I thought Rosen would take this with ease.

I cannot understand how there is this much disparity every year.

Wow, didn’t see that coming.
Most of them seem about normal but Allen doing so well is shocking.

Ryan pickzpatrick scored a 48.
blaine gabbert had a 42.

From all the hyperbole, I figured Rosen for the highest.

These don't matter.

Johnny manziel posted a 32.

i guess he's smarter than Rosen.

j/c

here's an article from last year on it, with several QBs. i found the following quote interesting



https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/nfl-quarterback-wonderlic-scores-matter-a-great-deal-042417/

and a huge list of wonderlic scores

http://wonderlictestsample.com/nfl-wonderlic-scores/

yea thats where i got the #'s from.

you just look up and down the list and go "eh".

especially when you start to consider how the super winning QB's with the highest wonderlic scores got there in the first place.

i certainly believe that the QB gets credit for leading their team to the playoffs/superbowl and such. but you also have to consider the team surrounding them.

wilson has a high wonderlic score. he lead his team to the playoffs. but he didnt CARRY them there. the defense absolutely won that title.

i wonder what the wonderlic scores were for that defense.

also, yea, the list of SB winning QB's, or QB's who were ok or above average, is nice to look at.

you know whats awful to look at? the QB's with high scores who ended up being bums, which is a way longer list then the guys who won.

I don't know how Bradshaw scored a 16, he couldn't spell C-A-T according to Hollywood Henderson - too funny.

One has to wonder ...

Was JM “straight” when he took it ... *LOL* ...

I had no idea he was gay.

maybe the booze told him to just circle "C" on every question.

Doesn't mean much to me other then speaking to level of preparation.

I hate to beat a dead horse at this point but having an agent makes a huge difference in combine prep:

Wonderlic prep @ 3:40

Rosen comes across to me as someone who just acts smarter than he really is.

Makes me wonder what Mason's score is.

Somehow Lamar's low score doesn't shock me. My instincts were screaming he might be a bit slow minded and I made a post about it earlier.

Josh Allen's score does shock me though and it scares me too because I don't want to take such an inaccurate QB at #1 overall. What it does do is make me start to think. He is obviously smart and has a cannon of an arm so why would he be so inaccurate. Is it lack of ability or bad coaching. Maybe it really is a supporting cast issue. Things just are not adding up with him like I would want them too.

I know one thing for certain. 70mph short football passes can break receivers fingers and hands. Brett Favre broke several of his WR's fingers. He drove footballs into boards too.

That high of a wonderlic is going to have a coach or two dreaming about coaching up a super athlete for sure though.

IF I remember right I think Weeden had a score of 32 wonderlic so it can't be weighed that heavily.

They need to bury these dumb test.

Why? Because of the 13 score?

Weeden had a Wonderlic score of 27.

Bc this test has no correlation to success in football.

I was honestly surprised to see Mayfield so low. There's another thread in here with an article from a NFL Combine Nerd who bragged about how he made a better IQ test than the Wonderlic. He said Baker broke the record for the IQ test.

Yeah, its the AIQ. (Athletic Intelligence Quotient) Iirc about half the league uses it.

But again, I believe, the wonderlic is much more like the bench the press then it is about the 40.

I don't think teams put much stock in a test that has proven to be predictively ineffective as anything other then a test of preparation.

In that respect its much like the bench press. I don't think any NFL team believes that Orlando Brown is weak. I don't think team's believe his poor bench press is indicative of weakness. I think teams believe his poor bench press is indicative of lack of preparation. I think the wonderlic falls closer into the preparation category then it does the meaningful from a predictive stand point.

Anydody know what Mahomes score was?

just looked ... he scored 24

I think I’m going to name my next dog, Wonderlic.

or nickname your significant other

But will they question when you start assigning them a score?

What I get from reading the Board is that , a strong arm is not important , mobile and athletic for a man his size( no big deal ) , Top wonderlic for a QB really means nothing . Problem seems narrowed down to foot work ( un-fixable ) Glad I stopped by ..

You only need a somewhat strong arm to succeed in the NFL. Making fast decisions, reading the defense, and having great ball placement is FAR more important. Allen doesn't do well at any of the things that matter most.

That doesn't mean he can't learn to get better but at this point it's just not likely.

I bet the Steelers take him as they need a legit successor to Big Ben.

The idea that this test doesn't matter is crazy. The idea that this is proven by the fact that Ryan Fitzpatrick measures out as a genius, yet isn't a Hall of Famer is stupid.
Being smart makes you better at just about everything. Having physical talent (where Fitz is lacking) makes you better at sports. These are both good attributes. Hard to believe that needs to be stated.
Allen has the most physical talent of any QB in the draft. He is by far the smartest of the quarterbacks in the draft. The only qualities left are things like fundamentals, training and leadership/personality. These are important. But brains and athletic ability are a good thing in a QB.

Well, I happen to think intelligence is a good thing to have as a QB.

Seems to me, some people dis the test and scores if whoever they are championing has a relatively low score.