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Trump declares 'NO MORE' DACA deal after report of caravan with Central Americans heading to US

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President Trump declared on Sunday the deal for the Obama-era DACA program was “NO MORE” and called for "tough" immigration reform after a report stated a caravan carrying more than 1,000 people from Central America is traveling through Mexico and to the United States in hopes of entering the states illegally or by asking for asylum.

Trump, who has vowed to end catch and release, tweeted Sunday morning that Republicans need to take the "nuclear option" when passing tougher immigration laws.

The president had given Congress six months to pass legislation enshrining the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program (DACA), which protects about 800,000 young immigrants brought to country illegally as children from deportation.

“Border Patrol Agents are not allowed to properly do their job at the Border because of ridiculous liberal (Democrat) laws like Catch & Release. Getting more dangerous. 'Caravans' coming. Republicans must go to Nuclear Option to pass tough laws NOW. NO MORE DACA DEAL!” the president tweeted.

The caravan the president was likely referring to was first reported by BuzzFeed News on Friday. Organized by Pueblos Sin Fronteras, or People Without Borders, the caravan traveled through Mexico without authorization last week, according to the report. Officials in Mexico have not attempted to stop the migrants, about 80 percent of them from Honduras. The group’s intent is to provide those people a safe way to travel to the U.S.

National Border Patrol Council (NBPC) union chief Brandon Judd told “Fox & Friends” on Sunday that the migrants are riding on the benefit of catch and release, when illegal immigrants are detained in the U.S. and released while they await for their court hearings.

Trump also threatened to pull out of the free trade agreement with Mexico unless the country did more to stop the flow of illegal immigrants entering the U.S. The U.S., Canada and Mexico are currently renegotiating the North American Free Trade Agreement at Trump's insistence.

“Mexico is doing very little, if not NOTHING, at stopping people from flowing into Mexico through their Southern Border, and then into the U.S. They laugh at our dumb immigration laws. They must stop the big drug and people flows, or I will stop their cash cow, NAFTA. NEED WALL!” he tweeted.

“These big flows of people are all trying to take advantage of DACA. They want in on the act!” he added.

Trump also spoke about DACA and Mexico before attending Easter services at Episcopal church near his home in Palm Beach, Fla.
"Mexico has got to help us at the border," Trump told reporters as he held his wife, Melania's, hand. "If they're not going to help us at the border, it's a very sad thing between our two countries."

Organizers believe about two-thirds of the people in the caravan are planning to enter the U.S. illegally or by asking for protection, according to BuzzFeed. The caravan does not give the migrants the guarantee they will enter the U.S. and uses any form of transportation necessary to make it to the border. Most of the people are reportedly fleeing poverty and political unrest from their home country.


“First off, you have got a Mexican government entity that is assisting these individuals that are coming up to the United States,” Judd told “Fox & Friends.” “These individuals do not have passports or legal documents to be in Mexico, yet you got an agency that’s helping them get to our [U.S.] border.”

Judd said border patrol agents do not have the ability to stop the migrants at the border even if they only step one foot on U.S. soil.

“Once they [the migrants] enter the country, even if we [border patrol agents] are standing at the border with our hands out saying, ‘Don’t enter, don’t enter,’ all they have to do is cross one foot into the border and we have to take them into custody,” Judd said. “If they ask for asylum or say I fear to go back to my country, then we have to process them under ‘credible fear’ which allows them to be released into our country.”

It’s unclear when the hundreds of migrants will be arriving at the U.S. border. Some of those who are traveling with the caravan are planning to stay in Mexico.

www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/01/trum...ding-to-us.html

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Trump declares 'NO MORE' DACA deal after report of caravan with Central Americans heading to US

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President Trump declared on Sunday the deal for the Obama-era DACA program was “NO MORE” and called for "tough" immigration reform after a report stated a caravan carrying more than 1,000 people from Central America is traveling through Mexico and to the United States in hopes of entering the states illegally or by asking for asylum.

Trump, who has vowed to end catch and release, tweeted Sunday morning that Republicans need to take the "nuclear option" when passing tougher immigration laws.

The president had given Congress six months to pass legislation enshrining the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program (DACA), which protects about 800,000 young immigrants brought to country illegally as children from deportation.

“Border Patrol Agents are not allowed to properly do their job at the Border because of ridiculous liberal (Democrat) laws like Catch & Release. Getting more dangerous. 'Caravans' coming. Republicans must go to Nuclear Option to pass tough laws NOW. NO MORE DACA DEAL!” the president tweeted.

The caravan the president was likely referring to was first reported by BuzzFeed News on Friday. Organized by Pueblos Sin Fronteras, or People Without Borders, the caravan traveled through Mexico without authorization last week, according to the report. Officials in Mexico have not attempted to stop the migrants, about 80 percent of them from Honduras. The group’s intent is to provide those people a safe way to travel to the U.S.

National Border Patrol Council (NBPC) union chief Brandon Judd told “Fox & Friends” on Sunday that the migrants are riding on the benefit of catch and release, when illegal immigrants are detained in the U.S. and released while they await for their court hearings.

Trump also threatened to pull out of the free trade agreement with Mexico unless the country did more to stop the flow of illegal immigrants entering the U.S. The U.S., Canada and Mexico are currently renegotiating the North American Free Trade Agreement at Trump's insistence.

“Mexico is doing very little, if not NOTHING, at stopping people from flowing into Mexico through their Southern Border, and then into the U.S. They laugh at our dumb immigration laws. They must stop the big drug and people flows, or I will stop their cash cow, NAFTA. NEED WALL!” he tweeted.

“These big flows of people are all trying to take advantage of DACA. They want in on the act!” he added.

Trump also spoke about DACA and Mexico before attending Easter services at Episcopal church near his home in Palm Beach, Fla.
"Mexico has got to help us at the border," Trump told reporters as he held his wife, Melania's, hand. "If they're not going to help us at the border, it's a very sad thing between our two countries."

Organizers believe about two-thirds of the people in the caravan are planning to enter the U.S. illegally or by asking for protection, according to BuzzFeed. The caravan does not give the migrants the guarantee they will enter the U.S. and uses any form of transportation necessary to make it to the border. Most of the people are reportedly fleeing poverty and political unrest from their home country.


“First off, you have got a Mexican government entity that is assisting these individuals that are coming up to the United States,” Judd told “Fox & Friends.” “These individuals do not have passports or legal documents to be in Mexico, yet you got an agency that’s helping them get to our [U.S.] border.”

Judd said border patrol agents do not have the ability to stop the migrants at the border even if they only step one foot on U.S. soil.

“Once they [the migrants] enter the country, even if we [border patrol agents] are standing at the border with our hands out saying, ‘Don’t enter, don’t enter,’ all they have to do is cross one foot into the border and we have to take them into custody,” Judd said. “If they ask for asylum or say I fear to go back to my country, then we have to process them under ‘credible fear’ which allows them to be released into our country.”

It’s unclear when the hundreds of migrants will be arriving at the U.S. border. Some of those who are traveling with the caravan are planning to stay in Mexico.

www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/01/trum...ding-to-us.html


I don't know why so many immigrants want to come to this country. The liberals in the country and on this board says the United States have never been good to minorities. Just saying!


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Because what the US does in Central and South America is far worse...

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I don't know why so many immigrants want to come to this country. The liberals in the country and on this board says the United States have never been good to minorities. Just saying!


"After U.S. meddling and propping up of despotic regimes made their homelands dystopian hellscapes, these people want to come here and work menial back-breaking labor for $5 an hour. Maybe America isn't so bad, eh, libs?"

I'll never get over the smug satisfaction that follows these mind-numbingly stupid arguments.

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I don't know why so many immigrants want to come to this country. The liberals in the country and on this board says the United States have never been good to minorities. Just saying!


"After U.S. meddling and propping up of despotic regimes made their homelands dystopian hellscapes, these people want to come here and work menial back-breaking labor for $5 an hour. Maybe America isn't so bad, eh, libs?"

I'll never get over the smug satisfaction that follows these mind-numbingly stupid arguments.

What do you mean after? The CIA is still one of the largest drug runners in the world.

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Maybe , we have backed some pretty ugly characters in Central America over the years for our economic and geopolitical gains . Be interesting to see what the landscape would look like if those countries were left to thier own devices . Id guess a lot would resemble Hati , Cuba and Venezuela .. not exactly role models for fair and humane treatment not that it gives the U.S. a pass by any means .

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Because what the US does in Central and South America is far worse...


The hypocrisy in this country is so deep and thick. We are so worried about Russian meddling......yet we think we are the masters of involving ourselves in other countries for our own good (only to always fail).

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The wall is being built....it will be huge...it will be the entire size of Mexico...we wont even have to pour a oz on concrete...and Mexico will pay for it...Trump will black list them out of NAFTA if they don't change their cozy rules with Central and South America...

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The wall is being built....it will be huge...it will be the entire size of Mexico...we wont even have to pour a oz on concrete...and Mexico will pay for it...Trump will black list them out of NAFTA if they don't change their cozy rules with Central and South America...


"The wall is being built"

I actually laughed out loud. Let me guess - Mexico's going to pay for it, right?

You people are so sadly gullible.

EDIT: He actually said Mexico will pay for it in the post, I missed that. Too funny.

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Maybe , we have backed some pretty ugly characters in Central America over the years for our economic and geopolitical gains . Be interesting to see what the landscape would look like if those countries were left to thier own devices . Id guess a lot would resemble Hati , Cuba and Venezuela .. not exactly role models for fair and humane treatment not that it gives the U.S. a pass by any means .


Haiti and Cuba are hellholes specifically because of U.S. meddling.

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Not true , at least not totally true . We have inserted our national interest / corporate greed but c'mon .

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Not true , at least not totally true . We have inserted our national interest / corporate greed but c'mon .


The United States quite literally installed and propped up Duvalier.

If you don't know Duvalier, a good friend of mine who lives in Miami does, and can share with you how, when he was 8, he was forced to watch his parents get their heads chopped off. The soldiers then forced him to watch while they played soccer with their heads.

His parents' crime? They wrote underground articles critical of Duvalier.

The Duvalier regime is only a small part of America's involvement in Haiti.

https://www.indystar.com/story/opinion/2...alier/17191805/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti#American_intervention

Want to do Cuba next?

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JC: This is gonna be an itchy situation. This many people, televised, headed for our border.

Trump's people will be watching, the international community will be watching.

We could be in for a bit of a mess.


I'm pretty liberal, but i've always made clear that I want to shore up our Southern Border. We're a sovreign nation. We have the right to a secure border. The wall made tons of sense to me, about the only thing i liked about Donald Trump. I get that a wall doesn't stop people in the 21st century, but it certainly slows them down.

Like a boat, if you have a hole in it, you plug the leak. Or at least try to slow it down.

This is a mess waiting to happen. I'm sure the border militias are getting their guns ready and getting themselves pumped up.

Do we send out the national guard?


I think our best bet is to start putting real pressure on Mexico, and right away. Halt NAFTA until this is resolved. Start taxing Western Union and Money being transferred from USA to Mexico. Financial pressure.

Because if these folks get to the border, I think it's a lose lose situation for the President.


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The wall is being built....it will be huge...it will be the entire size of Mexico...we wont even have to pour a oz on concrete...and Mexico will pay for it...Trump will black list them out of NAFTA if they don't change their cozy rules with Central and South America...


"The wall is being built"

I actually laughed out loud. Let me guess - Mexico's going to pay for it, right?

You people are so sadly gullible.

EDIT: He actually said Mexico will pay for it in the post, I missed that. Too funny.


read the rest...mexico crumbles with out nafta...the wall will be the entire country of Mexico...Mexico aint dumb..they wont bite the hand that feeds it.

there is more then one way to make people pay without them ponying up cash.

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They won't kiss the a$$ of Trump either. Mexico isn't paying for any wall. Trump lied..... again.


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I think both sides are trying to use this group of people. Trump using it as a way to show we need the wall, and the left using them to say how "mean and nasty" trump other side is.

Facts are Facts - these people should not be allowed into the country, and Trump has a duty as the POTUS to make sure we keep them out. Plain and simple.

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But didn't he say that it was Mexico's job to stop them? When what he didn't even know is that they had already done that.......

The Immigrant Caravan Halted in Mexico Before President Trump Even Started Tweeting About It

http://time.com/5226064/immigrant-caravan-halted-mexico-donald-trump/

The man isn't the sharpest crayon in the box. But that's what happens when you tweet BS an hour after Fox and Friends reports about it.


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I love how the left media calls it a CARAVAN when all it is is some poor people be led by human trafficker. rapist, drug smuggling coyotes that the corrupt MEXICAN govt is allowing to go through country with immunity but the libs have no problem with the misery that these people are facing.

Han, the libs have no compassion for human suffering as long as it helps
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But didn't he say that it was Mexico's job to stop them? When what he didn't even know is that they had already done that.......

The Immigrant Caravan Halted in Mexico Before President Trump Even Started Tweeting About It

http://time.com/5226064/immigrant-caravan-halted-mexico-donald-trump/

The man isn't the sharpest crayon in the box. But that's what happens when you tweet BS an hour after Fox and Friends reports about it.
Actually reports are mexico is now working on it AMID PRESSUE FROM TRUMPS TWEETS.

So this why we have what is called FAKE NEWS. Your acticle says it was halted before the tweets, ABC NEWS is saying Mexico has now been involved BECAUSE of the tweets.

Amid Pressure from Trump Tweets


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Yeah, if it weren't for the man in orange we would have to have stopped them at our border.


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Yeah, if it weren't for the man in orange we would have to have stopped them at our border.
aweeee, poor pit, you got smacked by the real facts reported by ABC and now are trying to snide remark your way out of it again.......

typical.

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A post made by you and real facts sounds like the Sesmae Street song, "One of these things doesn't belong here". lmao


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Psst ... u may want to educate him and let him know that STOPPING THEM amounts to us giving them coffee and donuts in an interview room and then we RELEASE THEM INTO THE US .... there’s LITERALLY NOTHING WE CAN DO TO STOP THEM .... once they get one foot across the border ... OUR DUMB ASS LAWS TAKE OVER ..... were like a rest stop for them ... thumbsdown

I think the next step after the “catch and release” ..... is off to Clems for dinner so he can let us know IF THEIR ALL OK OR NOT ... rofl ...

Thats all the POWER OUR BORDER AGENTS have right now ...

Stop them .... rofl ...




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But wasn't Trump supposed to fix all of that?

I mean I'm for keeping illegals out of our country, but the last I checked, he can't even get his own party behind his ideas. The last Trump backed immigration bill only received 39 votes.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost...m=.f55eba50870c

But pretending like every time he opens his mouth people of his party or leaders of other nations just fall in line is certainly not true.


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is there a place i can donate some cash for them to have fresh water and supplies? regardless if you dont like people coming into the country or not, it doesn't mean you can't treat them like human beings.


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Whats that got to do with the BS U JUST SPEWED ...

U want to have that convo ... NO PROBLEM ...

But your turning into Swish and the rest of the stoners ... can’t answer a question ... CHANGE THE SUBJECT ...

Exactly what should Trump do to STOP THE CARAVAN? ...

I’d wait . But we know THERE IS NO ANSWER TO THAT ...

Admit it and we can move on to the next topic in this saga ...




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is there a place i can donate some cash for them to have fresh water and supplies? regardless if you dont like people coming into the country or not, it doesn't mean you can't treat them like human beings.


Instead ... maybe u could treat some of the homeless around u like human beings ... go donate to them ... i’m sure there’s some within driving distance u could help ... thumbsup




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is there a place i can donate some cash for them to have fresh water and supplies? regardless if you dont like people coming into the country or not, it doesn't mean you can't treat them like human beings.


https://humaneborders.org/

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is there a place i can donate some cash for them to have fresh water and supplies? regardless if you dont like people coming into the country or not, it doesn't mean you can't treat them like human beings.


Instead ... maybe u could treat some of the homeless around u like human beings ... go donate to them ... i’m sure there’s some within driving distance u could help ... thumbsup





you do realize i already do that, right?

i donate a lot of cash to different organizations, without using it as a tax write off btw.

but regardless, why can't i donate to the caravan? why is it always "What about" with you?

you're like the dude who whines about people who adopt kids from africa, going "well theres kids right here in america who need help too".

stop trying to dictate how people choose to do good. if you want to donate to homelessness here in america, go ahead, nobody is stopping you.

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Ya ... was that before or after u served .... rofl ...

It was an ALTERNATIVE OPTION ...

Maybe if u weren’t so busy patting yourself on the back as usual you’d of understood it was an ALTERIVE OPTION and not DICTATING ...

Just like my service ... unlike u i dont feel the need to go around bragging about what i do for others ...

Go ahead ... donate to these folks ... i’m sure at least 5 or maybe even 10% of your donation will make it to them ... sounds like a REAL SMART INVESTMENT ..... rofl ...




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What can Trump do? That's an easy answer. He can call the immigration issue a matter of national security and turn it over to the military. That's most certainly within the power of the president. He could actually do the exact same thing to build the wall and has eluded to it.

Once it becomes defined as a matter of national security the wall can be paid for from the military budget and the border can be controlled by the military. Sure people would raise hell about it but they already raise hell about everything he does. A lot of it's earned because he sounds and acts like a dunce most of the time.

But if he really wanted to build the wall, he can. If he really wants to secure the border, he can. But you need to come to the reality it's more about playing the political blame game than actually resolving the issue.

The fact is, business loves illegals. They pay less for labor and increase their profit margins. A lot of the illegal problem would stop if they actually fined businesses and closed down repeat offenders hiring illegals. So he could step up enforcement against businesses that are breaking the laws as well.

I'm for stopping illegals from entering the U.S. But as long as they can come here and get jobs, they'll keep coming. It's time we actually attack the issue from all sides and that includes businesses that hire them.


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during and after.

you seem to feel some kind of way that i put my money where my mouth is.

i know actually practicing what you preach is a foreign concept to you, but i promise you, for others its actually really simple to pull off.

if you don't want to brag about it, fine. you kinda already demonstrated that you really didn't do anything while you were in though, so i wouldn't brag about being a paper pusher either.

sorry that i did a lot of cool stuff that im proud of telling other people about.

actually, im not sorry for that.


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is there a place i can donate some cash for them to have fresh water and supplies? regardless if you dont like people coming into the country or not, it doesn't mean you can't treat them like human beings.

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Organized by Pueblos Sin Fronteras, or People Without Borders, the caravan traveled through Mexico without authorization last week, according to the report.

There is an American "People Without Borders" but their website says they are NOT affiliated with the Pueblos group... so my guess is that you would have to reach out to them and donate some pesos directly.


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is there a place i can donate some cash for them to have fresh water and supplies? regardless if you dont like people coming into the country or not, it doesn't mean you can't treat them like human beings.

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Organized by Pueblos Sin Fronteras, or People Without Borders, the caravan traveled through Mexico without authorization last week, according to the report.

There is an American "People Without Borders" but their website says they are NOT affiliated with the Pueblos group... so my guess is that you would have to reach out to them and donate some pesos directly.


thats a lot of miles i gotta drive. i dunno if i got enough weed for that road trip.


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Register them and let them in.
Bus them straight to California.

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is there a place i can donate some cash for them to have fresh water and supplies? regardless if you dont like people coming into the country or not, it doesn't mean you can't treat them like human beings.

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Organized by Pueblos Sin Fronteras, or People Without Borders, the caravan traveled through Mexico without authorization last week, according to the report.

There is an American "People Without Borders" but their website says they are NOT affiliated with the Pueblos group... so my guess is that you would have to reach out to them and donate some pesos directly.


thats a lot of miles i gotta drive. i dunno if i got enough weed for that road trip.

Right because it's probably impossible to find more between Ohio and the Mexican border. rofl


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you trying to get me arrested in those bible belt states bro lololol


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The fact is, business loves illegals. They pay less for labor and increase their profit margins. A lot of the illegal problem would stop if they actually fined businesses and closed down repeat offenders hiring illegals. So he could step up enforcement against businesses that are breaking the laws as well.


^^^this, right here^^^
Close the thread.

Until this becomes a priority, everything else is band-aid. Bottom line: we're a capitalist society. Supply & demand fuels almost everything we do here. It's why the 'war on drugs' is un-winnable, a wall is useless, and armed border patrol will only shed blood and fail to secure our boundaries.

Market forces are determining outcomes. Disincentives would work better than chasing down fence-jumpers. Make it truly painful for anyone who is caught with an illegal work force, and demand will tank. Zero promise of jobs, reduced border crossings.

If this is truly the problem everyone says it is, it won't be solved by fighting a two-front battle on only one front.


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