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So .. we have all stated, at one time or another, what our ideal 1st round looks like .... but what is your nightmare? What 1st round would have you considering a drive to Berea, and potentially facing homicide charges? (kidding on that last part, speaking strictly figuratively)

For me it would be Josh Allen at 1, and Saquon Barkley at 4.

I think that Allen has tools, but needs to be completely "built" as a QB. I look at him and see Brock Osweiller ... a huge arm .... and no real feel for the game as a QB. I think that he is a bust just waiting to happen. As far as Barkley, I don't hate the player ... in fact I think that he will be a very good one. The key word, of course, is good. I think that we can get a very good RB in the 2nd round, and can either grab a great player at 4, or trade down for more value.

I think that this is an important draft for the Browns to show that they have changed as a franchise .... and I think that Allen and Barkley would be just more of the same we have seen in previous years.

What 1st round would ... *ahem* .... tick you off badly?

Anything Josh Allen.

Ytown, that pretty much sums it up for me too...like déjà vu

Mine is pretty much exactly what i posted in the worst case scenario thread:

At 1 it would be either trading down past #2 OR not taking Darnold. As much as I like the potential of Allen, not in the top 5. And Mayfield is intruiging, but not in the top 10 for me.


At 4, I think it would either be passing on Chubb if he were still available (regardless of Barkley being there, and I really like Barkley)
OR if Chubb was gone, reaching for someone. For the record, the exception would be Da'Ron Payne, I think that dude is gonna be a great one).

Allen is NOTHING like Osweiller, other than height and even then he is 4 inches shorter.

Osweiller throwing mechanics were God awful. Allen's are as good as it gets. Footwork is another story, but that can be corrected

In addition, he is much more athletic than Osweiller - not even close and Allen has one of the best arms in decades at the QB position - Osweiller, no way, no how.

1. Allen. I don't hate him as a prospect, and he is definitely intriguing with an incredible upside, but he is a HUGE gamble. This is a good QB draft....no need to take the gamble.

2. Nelson. Great player, but I'm not picking a guard in the top 5. If we traded with Buffalo sure, but 4??? I would be more upset than picking Allen.

Draft nightmare: Drafting Josh Allen at 1. Of all the options at qb we could have had. This would be my worst.

The drafting of Josh Allen would be very hard for me to accept. And it sucks and is depressing to think about, because you see a train wreck coming and the Browns are so important to me, yet I have no control over this situation. Can't believe we can screw this up.

I'll probably start praying again. 16 days of prayer to overcome the Josh Allen pick

Allen is a nice mix of Brock, Paxton Lynch, and Kyle Boller. Great choice for the number 1 pick

1. Allen
4. Ward

Using #1 or #4 on Lamar Jackson or Mayfield or picking OL at #4 ...

I hope booze /drugs/ suicide hot lines are available for many members of this Board !~

I would have prayers and do unto you all likewise.

Especially if we take Barkley @1.

i'm cool with whatever else, but allen at #1 is a nightmare that we wont wake up from for a long time.

Hey Bud, if I were ever considering driving to Berea I would have done that years ago on several occasions. lol

And I'm not really sure I can come up with a "draft nightmare". I don't take myself as seriously as some do on this board and fully understand my talent and drafting ability are limited. I could get behind several draft scenarios and I'm not really stuck on what I think the draft should look like.

I can however tell you draft scenarios that I would find to be disappointing and that would cause me to be apprehensive.

If we walk away from pick #1 with any QB selection other than Rosen or Darnold I will believe they didn't draft one of the best QB's in the draft.

I don't believe that Chubb is as good as Myles Garret and feel that #4 is too high of a price to pay for him.

I don't believe that Barkley is any better than Guice and that Guice may actually be a better all around RB than Barkey. Barkley hasn't shown me the ability to be able to run up the middle and he isn't going to beat NFL speed trying to attack the edge in the pro's.

I believe in the end I'll be happy with pick #1 and probably feel like we overpaid for pick #4.

I don't feel the D backfield was addressed in the FA market. A couple of upgrades, sure.

I would feel much better with Fitz or Ward at #4.

So I don't really see me having a melt down over the draft. I do believe I can see a scenario where people get way overhyped about who we pick and try to point the fingers at who to blame for it down the road.

That part of it seems like an annual event.

Nailed it.

Dreams are on draft day, nightmares don't come until fall when Rosen and Allen are injured, Mayfield is partying in Vegas and darnold continues to turn the ball over at a Kizer rate. Honestly the most likely busts in the top 10 are whomever we draft at 1 n 4.

My worst Nightmare is that we take Barkley at 1, the next two picks are Rosen/Darnold.

Two things in this scenario.

1. We took a running back with the 1st overall pick.
2. We took a QB that two teams passed on for other QB's.


What a disaster that would be.

j/c

Whichever QB we take at one, I'm just going to shut up, wait, and see. The GM and scouts know a helluva lot more than I do. But Allen and Mayfield scare me. Rosen too but a bit less. Hell, maybe all of them should scare me. LOL

So my nightmare scenario is just not hitting on the remaining picks. Maybe not all, as it's never perfect, but rounds 2 through 4 better be good picks. I don't want to see reaches and us trying to be more clever than the rest as SEVERAL of our former, jokes of front offices have done.

My nightmare scenario just involves taking Barkley at #1, which I have seen in a couple mocks.. and then hoping we get the QB we want at #4.. heck, we might come out of it with a good Qb but that, to me, would be proof positive that this FO doesn't know any more than all of the ones that came before it.

We take Rudolph at #1 and make the mistake in Chubb's and select Nick at #4.

Trading back to #22 to take a QB.

Anything involving trading out of the first & fourth, or not taking a QB with the #1. And I'm good with Allen if that's the choice.

If we end up with Rosen, Lamar or Mayfield I will have my teeth pulled and move to Pittsburg.

My Nightmare dates back to the Browns firing Marty.. That began the nightmare from which we have never awakened... I have always believed, if Marty had never been fired, there would have been no exodus in '95 and the Browns would have been Super Bowl Champs many years ago...

To the question at hand .. the Nightmare Draft .. any trade down from 1 or 4. We need players.. My Dream was Cousins/Barkley/Chubb... My Nightmare is any trade down or draft that does not net us either Darnold/Rosen at 1 or Chubb/Barkley/Ward at 4 ( including Ward due to remote possibility that Barkley and Chubb drafted at 2/3 ).

I do not dislike Rosen, I prefer him to Mayfield, Lamar, Allen, or any other QBs being considered. I prefer Darnold at 1.

Chubb or Barkley I want over any of the alternatives at 4. If either are available at 4, I do not want to trade down or take Fitz/Vea/Ward, but would take Fitz or Ward if both Chubb and Barkely are gone. So much depends on things we can not control.

Same as I said in the other thread....

Taking Allen at #1

and then....

Trading out of #4 with any team not named Denver.

That's pretty much sums it up for me.

Agree with your nightmare scenario.

Allen - seems like closer to draft people get all giddy with a big arm. There's a lot more to being a QB than a 70 yard throw. This guy is a project and would ruin my faith in the FO. A QB needs an NFL arm which is there in Darnold as well as Rosen and Mayfield.

Darnold is much less of a project since he brings many more qb skills to the table.

If we take Barkley, OK if Chubb is gone.

All in all QB @ 1 = Darnold and Chubb @ 4 = nightmare averted.

(only 11 years to get to 70 posts + 500 or so from the earlier board version)

Ending up with Allen, Barkley or both at #1 and #4. I'd be less upset if we took D. James at #1 and M. Rudolph at #4.

J/C

My nightmare is the current rumors - Josh Allen at #1, Bradley Chubb at #4.

Josh Allen just isn't the top quarterback in the class. He has incredible arm strength, and a fascinating blend of size and speed. From a pure talent perspective, he's Ben Roethlisberger and then some. However, the play just doesn't back it up. We talk about Allen's potential because his tape never matched that skill set. He's my 5th quarterback behind, respectively; Rosen, Darnold, Mayfield and Jackson.

As for Chubb, I do like him but I just hate the fit. I think Garrett is a stud who we'll one day pay a lot of money. Paying two top pass rushers isn't viable. Chubb will be a four year rental - and it usually takes pass rushers a season of development before they're ready to show who they are. So we get, likely, three fantastic seasons from Chubb - then we can no longer afford to keep him.

I just can't believe that this Allen option is real. I'm hoping it's all smoke, though I'm not really sure why we'd want smoke (unless it is for the Bills to trade with NYG before the draft) ... and then that pushes barkley/chubb to us

Vita Vea At Number 1
Da'Ron Payne at Number 4

Josh Allen or a trade down early in the first would be stupid. We have a chance to pick two studs, let's not eff it up.

Trading down from the 1 or 4 (to 12, 15 or 23). We have done it enough and I see little to no evidence that we benefited from it. Maybe Peppers will prove his pick (I hope so, I like the kid), but we are in an enviable position to potentially have two #1 picks (if QBs go 1,2,3). Take the QB you have decided on after months of eval and then at 4 get the BPA that will help the team NOW (Barkley or Chubb) and don't look back.

It does seem I'm reading more mocks that have us taking Allen than a week ago. Not sure what's going on.

why do we need to smokescreen at #1 though?