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Yeah, he's been under audit since 2016. I believe innocent people should act innocent. Why would lawyers not want you to reveal your tax returns? Hmmmmm.

You're too smart to buy all of this BS. At least I thought you were.


You won't learn a darned thing by seeing his tax return. Talk about being smart enough to know better. notallthere


It would be learned that he's deeply in debt and probably worth about maybe $250 million, and underwater.

Trump's whole sell is that he's a savvy businessman who is worth billions. His return wouldn't paint the whole picture of him being a trust fund kid who squandered his money foolishly and washed out trying to play act and a businessman, but it would burst the bubble of how Trump wishes to be viewed (which is the most important thing to him).


I think you overestimate how much info can be gleaned from a tax return.

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Yeah, he's been under audit since 2016. I believe innocent people should act innocent. Why would lawyers not want you to reveal your tax returns? Hmmmmm.

You're too smart to buy all of this BS. At least I thought you were.


You won't learn a darned thing by seeing his tax return. Talk about being smart enough to know better. notallthere
The old " theres nothing to see here, move along now"

That is a pretty weak excuse to not release his tax returns


Maybe...however, the real reason just may be that it's none of our business. Unlike when a sitting Secretary of State commits espionage some 33,000 times.

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Why would his attorneys want him yo conceal his tax returns? Why don't you expect Trump do do what every other presidential candidate has done for decades now?


I expected him from the start to be different than the Presidents of the last decade.


Yeah, I can't think of too many modern presidents whose political aspirations were launched by calling into a morning show for the elderly and rambling on with bizarre delusions about the findings of an invented investigative team for nearly a decade.

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Why would his attorneys want him yo conceal his tax returns? Why don't you expect Trump do do what every other presidential candidate has done for decades now?


I expected him from the start to be different than the Presidents of the last decade.


Yeah, I can't think of too many modern presidents whose political aspirations were launched by calling into a morning show for the elderly and rambling on with bizarre delusions about the findings of an invented investigative team for nearly a decade.


Better than past modern Presidents who never had a real job in their life or were lawyers who hadn't practiced law in years.

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Why would his attorneys want him yo conceal his tax returns? Why don't you expect Trump do do what every other presidential candidate has done for decades now?


I expected him from the start to be different than the Presidents of the last decade.


Yeah, I can't think of too many modern presidents whose political aspirations were launched by calling into a morning show for the elderly and rambling on with bizarre delusions about the findings of an invented investigative team for nearly a decade.


Better than past modern Presidents who never had a real job in their life or were lawyers who hadn't practiced law in years.


I wouldn't call being a game show host and media personality that pretended to be a businessman while blowing through his trust fund a "real job".

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Why would his attorneys want him yo conceal his tax returns? Why don't you expect Trump do do what every other presidential candidate has done for decades now?


I expected him from the start to be different than the Presidents of the last decade.


Yeah, I can't think of too many modern presidents whose political aspirations were launched by calling into a morning show for the elderly and rambling on with bizarre delusions about the findings of an invented investigative team for nearly a decade.


Better than past modern Presidents who never had a real job in their life or were lawyers who hadn't practiced law in years.


I wouldn't call being a game show host and media personality who pretended to be a businessman while blowing through his trust fund a "real job".


Someone actually paid him with dollars that did not come from taxpayers. A lot of someone(s) at that.

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Why would his attorneys want him yo conceal his tax returns? Why don't you expect Trump do do what every other presidential candidate has done for decades now?


I expected him from the start to be different than the Presidents of the last decade.


Yeah, I can't think of too many modern presidents whose political aspirations were launched by calling into a morning show for the elderly and rambling on with bizarre delusions about the findings of an invented investigative team for nearly a decade.


Better than past modern Presidents who never had a real job in their life or were lawyers who hadn't practiced law in years.


I wouldn't call being a game show host and media personality who pretended to be a businessman while blowing through his trust fund a "real job".


Someone actually paid him with dollars that did not come from taxpayers. A lot of someone(s) at that.


This is true of every president in modern history.

You tried to argue that Trump had "a real job", unlike other presidents. Not only is this untrue, but Trump is a game show host and two-bit con man who squandered his inheritance, blew through his siblings inheritance, and ended up blowing through so many loans that every bank in the world cut him off, to the point where he had to be put on an allowance, and had to sign away his ability to sign contracts, all in the name of playacting like he was more than just a trust fund idiot who stepped up to the plate and whiffed trying to masquerade as a businessman.

How, exactly, is that a "real job"?

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Someone actually paid him with dollars that did not come from taxpayers. A lot of someone(s) at that. People spent their hard-earned money to pay him for something they wanted that he had. That is all that matters in this debate.

Call it a job...call it a failure...call it what you wish. He has also signed the FRONT of a paycheck...lots of them. I don't believe BO or Hillary or Bernie can say that.

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Originally Posted By: WSU Willie
Someone actually paid him with dollars that did not come from taxpayers. A lot of someone(s) at that.


You've already posted this word for word once before, and as I've already pointed out, this is true of every modern president.

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People spent their hard-earned money to pay him for something they wanted that he had.




And, once again, this is true of every modern president.

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Call it a job...call it a failure...call it what you wish.


I love how quickly you wilted from "at least he had a real job" to "OK, maybe he never had a real job, but his signature was on paystubs".

In "Billy Madison", Adam Sandler's character was also a trust fund moron whose signature was on people's paychecks.

Do you think Adam Sandler's character in "Billy Madison" had a real job?

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His signature was on the actual paycheck as the guy authorized to spend his own money for services provided to his business. Then he paid payroll taxes on the wages...and none of that money came from the taxpayers. When did modern Presidents BO or Clinton do that?

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Someone actually paid him with dollars that did not come from taxpayers. A lot of someone(s) at that. People spent their hard-earned money to pay him for something they wanted that he had. That is all that matters in this debate.

Call it a job...call it a failure...call it what you wish. He has also signed the FRONT of a paycheck...lots of them. I don't believe BO or Hillary or Bernie can say that.


Man, you conservatives keep talking about Hillary so much, one would think she won the election.

I don’t understand how it’s been almost two years, and y’all still talk about her.

Is that the only thing y’all have left? Like honestly, y’all really sound like a bunch of dudes who are salty she turned you down when you asked her out to prom.

Trump has an extensive history of not paying his workers. You’re trying to hype up a man who will do anything NOT to sign a check over.

Do you think trump would be successful if he wasn’t born wealthy?

That’s a question for everybody.


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His signature was on the actual paycheck as the guy authorized to spend his own money for services provided to his business. Then he paid payroll taxes on the wages...and none of that money came from the taxpayers. When did modern Presidents BO or Clinton do that?


Both Obama and Clinton had done that before they became president. As well as both Bushes, Reagan, and Carter.

But once again, Adam Sandler's character in "Billy Madison" was also a trust fund idiot who signed people's paychecks (although Billy Madison did far less active fraud against working-class people). Do you think Adam Sandler's character in Billy Madison had a real job?

You've been asked four times now how a trust fund kid playing with his father's money constitutes a real job, and for some reason you keep refusing to answer.

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I actually forgot about that tidbit -

Trump's lived a big chunk of his adult life on bank-imposed allowances, because he owed them so much money and kept getting swindled in bad acquisition after bad acquisition that they had to put him on monitored allowances.

Then, he kept blowing through his monthly allotments on like the 1st or 2nd, getting suckered into some deal, so the bank literally forced him to sign over first refusal to them on any agreement he entered into financially.


Never heard of this, you have any links to reports? I'd like to read those.

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How good Trump is at business can be found in answers to this question: Can you name one successful business venture Trump has had that was not tainted by Trump in some way or has now failed?

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I actually forgot about that tidbit -

Trump's lived a big chunk of his adult life on bank-imposed allowances, because he owed them so much money and kept getting swindled in bad acquisition after bad acquisition that they had to put him on monitored allowances.

Then, he kept blowing through his monthly allotments on like the 1st or 2nd, getting suckered into some deal, so the bank literally forced him to sign over first refusal to them on any agreement he entered into financially.


Never heard of this, you have any links to reports? I'd like to read those.


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That proposal was vetoed. While he did receive a $450,000-a-month allowance from the banks to keep his business operations going, it was structured and executed on the banks’ terms, several of the negotiators said.

The banks decided they could recover more of the $4 billion they were collectively owed if they sold Trump’s holdings one by one, waiting until the market recovered, rather than taking possession of the assets, four participants in the talks said.

These individuals said the banks agreed to forgive Trump’s personal liabilities in exchange for his help in selling the properties. The proceeds of the sales would then be split among the banks.

Trump agreed that the banks could take away all his personal property, including his beloved Florida estate, Mar-a-Lago, if he failed to execute the agreement.


http://fortune.com/2016/07/17/trump-financial-comeback-story/

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In 1990, Donald Trump’s empire and image were imploding. Running short on cash and having already missed a bond payment to the backers of his Trump Castle casino in Atlantic City, Trump was on the precipice of bankruptcy. If he defaulted on the loan, banks would swoop in, seize his prized properties, and sell them off to get their money back.

But those banks offered Trump a lifeline. They agreed to loan him more money so he could keep making payments on his various debts—under a few conditions. “The banks will name two executives to run the Trump empire, bar him from moving money among his companies without the banks’ permission, and limit him to a $450,000 allowance for ‘personal and household spending,'” the Philadelphia Inquirer reported.


https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/trump-files-donald-gets-allowance/

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The documents, dated Friday and made available over the weekend, show that banks, as conditions for lending Trump $65 million more to ease his cash crunch, will name two executives to run the Trump empire, bar him from moving money among his companies without the banks` permission and limit him to a $450,000 allowance for ``personal and household spending.``


http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1990-...e-casino-resort

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Factabulous! lol

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Factabulous! lol


Yeah, that's why I was laughing out loud this morning when Diam was trying to tell Pit "Hey, say what you will, hell of a businessman, and a great negoiator!"

Trump is a trust fund clown who was born on third base and got caught trying to steal home. He's basically a game show host who stumbled through life failing to coast on a trust fund, and yet somehow people are deluded into thinking he's some shrewd mogul.

I will give Trump credit for one thing - he understands how truly dumb most people are.

But it's pretty astonishing how dumb the guy is/was. How do you lose your shirt on a freaking casino? It's legal crack-cocaine sales, you'd have to be the dumbest person in the world to bankrupt your trust fund running one.

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having a bank essentially give you an allowance doesn't sound like a billionaire.

sounds like a trophy wife who went too crazy with the credit cards.


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having a bank essentially give you an allowance doesn't sound like a billionaire.

sounds like a trophy wife who went too crazy with the credit cards.


Trust fund kid who went too crazy with the credit cards.

At least trophy wives don't incur debt, and get a bonus when they have to throw in the towel.

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Yeah, he's been under audit since 2016. I believe innocent people should act innocent. Why would lawyers not want you to reveal your tax returns? Hmmmmm.

You're too smart to buy all of this BS. At least I thought you were.


rofl ... are u seriously this naive ... seriously Pit .. do u pay attention at all? ...

And he is still under audit til this day ... the case is still open ... and anyone under IRS audit would be a MORON to release those tax returns and/or say a word about them ... that’s STUPIDITY ...

Also Pit .. u said INNOCENT people should act innocent ... what does that even mean? ... he has been ACCUSED OF NOTHING ... do u even know what BEING UNDER AUDIT MEANS? ... any clue at all? ...

And u haven’t ANSWERED MY QUESTION ... SHOCKER ...

What do u expect to learn from his tax returns Pit? .. WHAT INFO IS IT YOUR INTERESTED IN? ...

U dont even know ... u just want to have a TDS TANTRUM and kick and scream about him not releasing his tax returns even though u have no clue what u hope to find out from them ...




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Yeah, he's been under audit since 2016. I believe innocent people should act innocent. Why would lawyers not want you to reveal your tax returns? Hmmmmm.

You're too smart to buy all of this BS. At least I thought you were.


rofl ... are u seriously this naive ... seriously Pit .. do u pay attention at all? ...

And he is still under audit til this day ... the case is still open ... and anyone under IRS audit would be a MORON to release those tax returns and/or say a word about them ... that’s STUPIDITY ...

Also Pit .. u said INNOCENT people should act innocent ... what does that even mean? ... he has been ACCUSED OF NOTHING ... do u even know what BEING UNDER AUDIT MEANS? ... any clue at all? ...

And u haven’t ANSWERED MY QUESTION ... SHOCKER ...

What do u expect to learn from his tax returns Pit? .. WHAT INFO IS IT YOUR INTERESTED IN? ...

U dont even know ... u just want to have a TDS TANTRUM and kick and scream about him not releasing his tax returns even though u have no clue what u hope to find out from them ...


This is absolute gibberish that says nothing, and is basically you backtracking because your weak argument got smacked away. It's a long string of "you're so dumb", "you're so naive", "you don't get it", with no actual argument, evidence, or point behind it.

You're floundering here because:


A) the only reason Trump hasn't released his tax returns is because he's terrified of people finding out his just another trust fund flunkie who couldn't hang in the worlds he wanted to

and

B) you embarrassed yourself trying to argue that a guy who was so bad at business and fell so far into debt that banks literally had to say "we'll bail you out, but you can't make deals anymore, you're awful at it" was - to quote you - "one hell of a negotiator with great business acumen".

You're just having a hard time coping with the fact that the big wet idiot you got duped into thinking was a business shark was a trust fund game show host all along.

Try not to take it as hard as you did Brady Quinn.

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A key question the TDS TANTRUM CREW has yet to ask ...

How many of the past presidents or candidates were UNDER IRS AUDIT at the time they released their tax returns? ...

Thats a HUGE DIFFERENCE to anyone who has a clue to the type of microscope Trumps under EVERY YEAR with his taxes ...




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Except being under audit isn’t a reason he can’t release the returns.

Even the irs said as much.


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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
A key question the TDS TANTRUM CREW has yet to ask ...

How many of the past presidents or candidates were UNDER IRS AUDIT at the time they released their tax returns? ...


Off the top of my head?

Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Herman Cain, Steve Forbes, Ross Perot, Mike Huckabee, Mitt Romney, and Richard Nixon (though Nixon never released them.

Diam is having a hard time coping with the guy he got tricked into thinking had "business acumen" turned out to be a trust fund clown that used to call Forbes and pretend to be "John Barron" saying "oh, Mr. Trump is a successful billionaire", when he was actually an idiot who was deeply in debt and making prank phone calls in order to save face.

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PDF, if you are going to use words that aren't in a 5th grade vocabulary you should link to the definition or you might as well grunt as say 'acumen'. wink

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Except being under audit isn’t a reason he can’t release the returns.

Even the irs said as much.


The irs ... their a pretty trust worthy group ... just ask all the conservative groups your girl Lerner targeted .... rofl ....

What did TRUMPS LAWYERS SAY? ...

I know who i’d Listen to in this scenario ... u? .. would u pick the irs or your lawyers? ... i basically just asked how ignorant are u willing to make yourself look to defend an indefensible position .... naughtydevil ...

Go ahead ... SPIN AWAY WHILE AVOIDING THE QUESTION ... thumbsup




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Have you seen trumps lawyers lately?

You’d trust that? Yikes.


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Have you seen trumps lawyers lately?

You’d trust that? Yikes.


Michael Cohen and the weird Cryptkeeper guy who told Erin Burnett that Cohen would flip because he won't want to be raped by black men in prison.

And now Rudy Giuliani.

Ace crew.

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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
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Except being under audit isn’t a reason he can’t release the returns.

Even the irs said as much.


The irs ... their a pretty trust worthy group ... just ask all the conservative groups your girl Lerner targeted .... rofl ....

What did TRUMPS LAWYERS SAY? ...

I know who i’d Listen to in this scenario ... u? .. would u pick the irs or your lawyers? ... i basically just asked how ignorant are u willing to make yourself look to defend an indefensible position .... naughtydevil ...

Go ahead ... SPIN AWAY WHILE AVOIDING THE QUESTION ... thumbsup


It's been pointed out to you three times now that the IRS basically said "nothing in your last five years have any criminal charges or current disputes, go ahead and release them, you won't be charged on any part of it".

You're the one spinning because you got tricked in a con.

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They’re the perfect kind of lawyers for a reality tv host.


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They’re the perfect kind of lawyers for a reality tv host.


I'm like 80% sure if the Heritage Foundation didn't tell Trump to pick Gorsuch, he would've nominated Wapner for the Supreme Court.

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Yeah, he's been under audit since 2016. I believe innocent people should act innocent. Why would lawyers not want you to reveal your tax returns? Hmmmmm.

You're too smart to buy all of this BS. At least I thought you were.


You won't learn a darned thing by seeing his tax return. Talk about being smart enough to know better. notallthere
The old " theres nothing to see here, move along now"

That is a pretty weak excuse to not release his tax returns


Maybe...however, the real reason just may be that it's none of our business. Unlike when a sitting Secretary of State commits espionage some 33,000 times.
I am not sure what Donald Trumps tax returns and the Hilary Clinton email scandal have to do with each other. Was there some sort of connections between the two incidents that I dont know about ?

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Yeah, he's been under audit since 2016. I believe innocent people should act innocent. Why would lawyers not want you to reveal your tax returns? Hmmmmm.

You're too smart to buy all of this BS. At least I thought you were.


You won't learn a darned thing by seeing his tax return. Talk about being smart enough to know better. notallthere
The old " theres nothing to see here, move along now"

That is a pretty weak excuse to not release his tax returns


Maybe...however, the real reason just may be that it's none of our business. Unlike when a sitting Secretary of State commits espionage some 33,000 times.
I am not sure what Donald Trumps tax returns and the Hilary Clinton email scandal have to do with each other. Was there some sort of connections between the two incidents that I dont know about ?


No.

Whenever the bones of Willie's skeleton arguments fall apart, he curls up in a corner with some various contextually irrelevant version of "whatabout [Obama/Hillary/whatever straw he can grasp at]?"

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PDF, if you are going to use words that aren't in a 5th grade vocabulary you should link to the definition or you might as well grunt as say 'acumen'. wink


Credit where credit is due-

Diam himself used the word "acumen" when trying to tell Pit that "everyone had to hand it" to the trust fund idiot who had to sign away his privileges to manage his own money because he was so bad at pretending to be a real estate mogul.

Diam praised his "business acumen" and said he was a "hell of a negotiator".

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Trump 'might' release returns 'when I'm out of office'

President Donald Trump has reneged on a pledge to release his tax returns after an IRS audit, confirming what many have long suspected: that the real obstacle to disclosure is Trump himself.

The tax returns came up in a May 4 discussion with The Economist when a reporter asked the president if he would be willing to trade his tax returns for Democratic votes on a tax plan.

After incorrectly saying that only reporters care about his returns, Trump said he "might release them after I'm out of office." That was new to us given Trump had previously said he would not release them because he is under an audit.

"I'm under a routine audit, and it'll be released, and as soon as the audit is finished it will be released," Trump said at the first presidential debate in September.

The back-and-forth between The Economist, Trump and several administration members is worth reading in full (emphasis ours):

The Economist: "If you do need Democratic support for your ideal tax plan, and the price of that the Democrats say is for you to release your tax returns, would you do that?"

Trump: "I don't know. That's a very interesting question. I doubt it. I doubt it. Because they're not going to…nobody cares about my tax return except for the reporters. Oh, at some point I'll release them. Maybe I'll release them after I'm finished, because I'm very proud of them actually. I did a good job."

Hope Hicks, White House director of strategic communication: "Once the audit is over."

Trump: "I might release them after I'm out of office."

Three things are noteworthy about the end of this exchange. First is Hicks' attempt to prod Trump back on script about his IRS audit being the grounds for nondisclosure, and second is Trump's sidestepping of this cue. The most remarkable point is Trump's new position that he reserves the right not to release his tax returns until after he's left office.

This contrasts sharply with campaign messaging that saw Trump and his surrogates give more than a dozen excuses for why he was the first presidential nominee in nearly 40 years not to release his tax returns, with new reasons tacked on after he was elected.

One such argument was that Trump's financial disclosures more than make up for not releasing his tax returns -- and Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin alluded to this in the Economist interview. But as we've shown before, this is a red herring because tax returns may reveal financial information like charitable giving and income sources not necessarily covered in Trump's financial disclosure.

Eventually Trump's refusal came to rest upon the IRS audit, which he even alluded to later in the Economist interview. The IRS, however, has said nothing precludes a president from releasing tax returns while under audit (Nixon did).

But here the president has indicated for the first time that he will not necessarily release his tax returns after the IRS audit. Rather, he reserves the right to keep his tax returns under seal during his time in the White House.

They say sunlight's the best disinfectant, and despite Trump's alternative facts about lagging public interest, most voters want to see his shrouded tax returns exposed to the light of day. In fact, two in three voters now believe Congress should pass a law requiring future presidential candidates to release the previous few years of their tax returns.

But given Trump's backpedaling, Americans will be kept in the dark for the foreseeable future — and not for the reason previously described. We rate this Promise Broken.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...udit-completed/

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Factabulous! lol


He was actually factual for a change ... he didnt lie for once ...

He did however end the story in the early 90’s ... whats happend since then ... have Mr. Factabulous google Trumps financials he had to file them to run for president ... hes now worth somewhere between 3 and 10 billion ...

Hes done pretty well over the last 25 years i’d say .... but thats just me ... rofl ...

I guess if the story ended in 1994 U guys would have a point ... its now 2018 and only the true TDS sufferers think he is a bad business man even though his balance sheet shows otherwise ... thumbsup

Trump learned a few things from that experience like ALL GREAT BUSINESS MEN DO ....

PS. The man got a 450k allowance for his BUSINESSES not his PERSONAL SPENDING ... there were zero restrictions on that ... he had PLENTY OF PERSONAL CASH and ASSETS ... and thats a PRETTY NICE ALLOWANCE ... its the allowance version of going to one of the Club Med prisons where they golf everyday ... rofl ...

U see .. i go off memory on this stuff .. i lived it ... i paid attention ... never liked trump but he always intrigued me ... hes always been an interesting man that I followed ...




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The measure of a man is determined by his wealth?

Interesting...


Ya ... thats what i said ... rolleyes

What a crock of crap ... literally ... u should be suspended for making that leap ... its LYING is what it is ...

U just did exactly what u hate trump for ...

What u just did isn’t just taking something out f context its FLAT OUT LYING ...

And of course now all the minions will chime in and turn your lie into the truth ... job well done mac ...


diam...I see that I struck a nerve...

Forgive me, but reading your responses leading up to my post, it appeared to me that you are very impressed by a man's claim of great wealth.




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I dont like when people put words in my mouth that i never came close to saying and their essentially just lying ... especially when they do it to me ... thats the nerve u struck ... if your proud of that ... kudos to u ... to each there own ... thumbsup

If u read the posts and followed along in the thread ... not sure how u come to the conclusion that I’m impressed with his wealth .... u must have DDS in a bad way .... rofl ...

See ... heres how it went down mac ... maybe a step by step account will help with your reading comprehension .... the PESKY DETAILS once again getting in the way of a false narrative ....

- one of your fellow menZas said Hillary was stupid for not attacking trump as being a bad business man ....

- i replied that would have been dumb as hell cause trump is worth 3 billion + and therefore could easily make a case that he is not a bad business man and that Hillary would have been stupid to open up that can of worms for many reasons ... including but not limited to the fact it would have opened the door to allow him to shine even more light on how her and her hubbie made all their money ....

NO WHERE did i say i was impressed with his wealth ... i said hes a good (actually GREAT) businessman if he’s worth 3 - 10 billion ..... i also defended his work ethic and admitted he has conned lots of people along the way ... i didnt even say he was an ETHICAL businessman much less that i admired his wealth ....

The fact u cant see that worries me mac ... i think u can ... your DDS is just out of control ... Good Luck with that mac ... in the meantime please dont put words in my mouth and make up lies about me .... i promise the same courtesy in return ...

Thanks in advance ... thumbsup




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Yeah, he's been under audit since 2016. I believe innocent people should act innocent. Why would lawyers not want you to reveal your tax returns? Hmmmmm.

You're too smart to buy all of this BS. At least I thought you were.


You won't learn a darned thing by seeing his tax return. Talk about being smart enough to know better. notallthere
The old " theres nothing to see here, move along now"

That is a pretty weak excuse to not release his tax returns


Maybe...however, the real reason just may be that it's none of our business. Unlike when a sitting Secretary of State commits espionage some 33,000 times.
I am not sure what Donald Trumps tax returns and the Hilary Clinton email scandal have to do with each other. Was there some sort of connections between the two incidents that I dont know about ?


No.

Whenever the bones of Willie's skeleton arguments fall apart, he curls up in a corner with some various contextually irrelevant version of "whatabout [Obama/Hillary/whatever straw he can grasp at]?"


So you don't think Trump ever got a W2 or received a guaranteed payment to partner? You should Google guaranteed payment to partner - you'll learn something.

What companies did Clinton or Obama own and operate that hired employees NOT paid by taxpayer dollars? I'm still waiting for your proof and some relevant reference to something other than a comedy flick.

I know it's painfully inconvenient to point out your lack of interest in Obama's college transcripts - which other Presidents release as well - or Hillary's espionage which is a verified crime against America. But those are way more relevant than the tax returns of a billionaire.

Do you understand that Trump released his personal financial information? Do you understand that that will tell you countless times more than will a tax return?

Let's see if you can respond without weak insults intended to deflect from what you are actually being asked.

I'll summaries it for you:

Has Trump (before being elected President) ever received a W2 and/or K-1 (aka had a job) from an entity other than one that gets it's money from taxpayers?

Has Trump ever been the signer (not just endorser) of paychecks from entities that do not get their money from taxpayers?

Has Obama or Clinton (prior to being elected President) ever owned or operated a company that hired people and if they signed a paycheck, was it only from an entity that receives its money from taxpayers?

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Only Trump could cause a casino to go belly up in a market where "The house always wins". lol Nixon has nothing on Trump, as far as being a crook.


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