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where's devil at?

cops can harass some black kids doing nothing, but can't find a naked white guy who shot up a waffle house?


WTH man?! Not even warming up anymore before going that route huh?

boo



So you don't think he has a good point and shouldn't bring it up?


He can bring it up, but just because he brings it up doesn't mean it's relevant to the topic in the least bit.



He made his point. A damn good one. You're just taking another route and deflecting away from the poor police work in these cases. Typical Trump/GOP tactic.

What is his point? That it should take the same level of effort to find 2 guys loitering in a Starbucks in the middle of the afternoon as it takes to find a guy who just killed people and got a head start running/hiding for his life at 3:00 am?


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where's devil at?

cops can harass some black kids doing nothing, but can't find a naked white guy who shot up a waffle house?

It's noon here in Raleigh, half the cops in town are eating lunch, the other half is standing guard so none of them get shot ...


While school children get the local rent a cop who couldn't cut the muster in police academy.


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I thought his point was about how minorities are treated differently then whites in just about every situation. But I could be wrong.


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where's devil at?

cops can harass some black kids doing nothing, but can't find a naked white guy who shot up a waffle house?

It's noon here in Raleigh, half the cops in town are eating lunch, the other half is standing guard so none of them get shot ...


While school children get the local rent a cop who couldn't cut the muster in police academy.

Which 99.9999% of the time, is enough.


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Reinking's firearms license was also revoked, according to the report.

The weapons landed back in Reinking's father's possession.

The father admitted to authorities Sunday that he gave the guns back to his son, according to the police statement.

One of the weapons, an AR-15, was allegedly used in the Waffle House slayings, police said.
So what your saying is that the laws we have should have prevented this and they did not.


Maybe this is the case. If so, that makes a stronger case for better laws, more bans on AR-15's, or just ban them all.
he was banned from having the gun - so no its the opposite fact. the ban on him from having the gun did nothing. more laws did nothing. banning him from a gun did nothing. are you blind to that fact.


Why did the police give the AR-15 back to his father? There should be a law against that. Are you blind to that fact?


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where's devil at?

cops can harass some black kids doing nothing, but can't find a naked white guy who shot up a waffle house?

It's noon here in Raleigh, half the cops in town are eating lunch, the other half is standing guard so none of them get shot ...


While school children get the local rent a cop who couldn't cut the muster in police academy.

Which 99.9999% of the time, is enough.


Yeah, count me out of the "make schools more like prisons" train of thought.

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Why did the police give the AR-15 back to his father? There should be a law against that. Are you blind to that fact?


oh oh I got this........ Yes


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I guess the victim and race card had to come in sooner or later smh

Actually this would be a good time to make a statement and charge the person his father I THINK that gave him his gun\guns back to him illegally with the same culpability as the shooter and come down hard on him



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Reinking's firearms license was also revoked, according to the report.

The weapons landed back in Reinking's father's possession.

The father admitted to authorities Sunday that he gave the guns back to his son, according to the police statement.

One of the weapons, an AR-15, was allegedly used in the Waffle House slayings, police said.
So what your saying is that the laws we have should have prevented this and they did not.


Maybe this is the case. If so, that makes a stronger case for better laws, more bans on AR-15's, or just ban them all.
he was banned from having the gun - so no its the opposite fact. the ban on him from having the gun did nothing. more laws did nothing. banning him from a gun did nothing. are you blind to that fact.


This is exactly why I'm against homicide laws in this country.

Look at this Waffle House shooting - the law specifically said that murder was illegal, but it didn't stop this kid from going and committing murder. What good are homicide laws, if people are just going to murder people anyway?


In that aspect, they are not. People are going to kill people no matter what. Laws do not prevent anything - all they do is give you a recourse to hold the person responsible and accountable for their actions. That's the entire point we are making, thank you for agreeing.

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Why did the police give the AR-15 back to his father? There should be a law against that. Are you blind to that fact?

They do need to review whether returning those guns to the father was legal.. if it wasn't, somebody should pay for that. If it was legal, that sounds like a policy that needs to be revised.... I don't know if that would be the cops decision to give them back or the DA or who would make that decision...

The father should also be charged for giving them back to the kid KNOWING they were confiscated and he was no longer legally allowed to have access to them.


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I thought his point was about how minorities are treated differently then whites in just about every situation. But I could be wrong.



I see your point the black kids refused to leave arrest us...the white kid ran and hid, OH the racism saywhat they clearly treated the white kid differently.

So minorities refuse to leave asked to be arrested cops handled differently than a white kid running and hiding...What were those police thinking. rolleyes

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where's devil at?

cops can harass some black kids doing nothing, but can't find a naked white guy who shot up a waffle house?


WTH man?! Not even warming up anymore before going that route huh?

boo


i go all in, all the time. be mad all you want, but it seems like justice is swift for minorities, and half-assed when it comes to white guys.

apparently naked white guys.


Don't worry Swish, there's more than enough black dudes killing in Chicago and getting away with it to make up for the disparity. They only clear between 20 and 30% of cases on average which comes out to several hundred evading swift justice a year.

What's Chicago got to do with it? About as much as your BS statement smile



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Cops get there quickly.

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Cops: eh, we’ll find em when we find em.

Will they also take the shooter to Burger King when they find him? Y’all could use the money you illegally take from citizens to pay for it.


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Reinking's firearms license was also revoked, according to the report.

The weapons landed back in Reinking's father's possession.

The father admitted to authorities Sunday that he gave the guns back to his son, according to the police statement.

One of the weapons, an AR-15, was allegedly used in the Waffle House slayings, police said.
So what your saying is that the laws we have should have prevented this and they did not.


Maybe this is the case. If so, that makes a stronger case for better laws, more bans on AR-15's, or just ban them all.
he was banned from having the gun - so no its the opposite fact. the ban on him from having the gun did nothing. more laws did nothing. banning him from a gun did nothing. are you blind to that fact.


Why did the police give the AR-15 back to his father? There should be a law against that. Are you blind to that fact?
There is a law against willynilly

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To me I get that his point was that a black person can slaughter people but still be a victim too.

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Why did the police give the AR-15 back to his father? There should be a law against that. Are you blind to that fact?

They do need to review whether returning those guns to the father was legal.. if it wasn't, somebody should pay for that. If it was legal, that sounds like a policy that needs to be revised.... I don't know if that would be the cops decision to give them back or the DA or who would make that decision...

The father should also be charged for giving them back to the kid KNOWING they were confiscated and he was no longer legally allowed to have access to them.


I agree. The father definitely needs to be held accountable for this. I'm a father. I can't imagine giving my son a gun knowing a history of mental illness or sketchy behavior. I wouldn't even hand him a set of car keys if he had a history of accidents or bad driving habits.


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Reinking's firearms license was also revoked, according to the report.

The weapons landed back in Reinking's father's possession.

The father admitted to authorities Sunday that he gave the guns back to his son, according to the police statement.

One of the weapons, an AR-15, was allegedly used in the Waffle House slayings, police said.
So what your saying is that the laws we have should have prevented this and they did not.


Maybe this is the case. If so, that makes a stronger case for better laws, more bans on AR-15's, or just ban them all.
he was banned from having the gun - so no its the opposite fact. the ban on him from having the gun did nothing. more laws did nothing. banning him from a gun did nothing. are you blind to that fact.


Why did the police give the AR-15 back to his father? There should be a law against that. Are you blind to that fact?
There is a law against willynilly


Is there? So the cops broke the law???

Please tell me what this law is.


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Bang, bang.
Splish, splash.
Thoughts/prayers.
Rinse/repeat.


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Why did the police give the AR-15 back to his father? There should be a law against that. Are you blind to that fact?

They do need to review whether returning those guns to the father was legal.. if it wasn't, somebody should pay for that. If it was legal, that sounds like a policy that needs to be revised.... I don't know if that would be the cops decision to give them back or the DA or who would make that decision...

The father should also be charged for giving them back to the kid KNOWING they were confiscated and he was no longer legally allowed to have access to them.


This is what needs to be done before enacting new laws. Go over the ones in place and find any weak areas and modify them adding more laws at this point will only cloud the water. Get what you have working if the can't be fix then add better safeguards. Doing things with clear minds rather than knee jerk over emotional minds will yield better results for all concerned.

Holding government responsible for actually following through on the laws instead of ignoring them.

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Bang, bang.
Splish, splash.
Thoughts/prayers.
Rinse/repeat.


You forgot

Puff Puff Pass bang bang...Puff Puff Pass...

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Bang, bang.
Splish, splash.
Thoughts/prayers.
Rinse/repeat.


You forgot

Puff Puff Pass bang bang...Puff Puff Pass...


Oh right, I forgot weed makes people shoot each other.


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The naked shooter was not allowed BY LAW to have weapons.

The father knowingly gave weapons to a man NOT ALLOWED BY LAW to have weapons. LAW broken.

The man was BANNED by LAW from having any weapons - therefor the LAW was broken when the father gave said weapons to his son - whom was barred from having possession of them.

your missing the entire point that the LAW SAID the man could not have weapons, yet he got them - with no trouble.

So your laws and bans do nothing.

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Why did the police give the AR-15 back to his father? There should be a law against that. Are you blind to that fact?

They do need to review whether returning those guns to the father was legal.. if it wasn't, somebody should pay for that. If it was legal, that sounds like a policy that needs to be revised.... I don't know if that would be the cops decision to give them back or the DA or who would make that decision...

The father should also be charged for giving them back to the kid KNOWING they were confiscated and he was no longer legally allowed to have access to them.


This is what needs to be done before enacting new laws. Go over the ones in place and find any weak areas and modify them adding more laws at this point will only cloud the water. Get what you have working if the can't be fix then add better safeguards. Doing things with clear minds rather than knee jerk over emotional minds will yield better results for all concerned.

Holding government responsible for actually following through on the laws instead of ignoring them.


Modifying existing laws, or replacing them with new laws, it's still change. And I'm all for it.


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The naked shooter was not allowed BY LAW to have weapons.

The father knowingly gave weapons to a man NOT ALLOWED BY LAW to have weapons. LAW broken.

The man was BANNED by LAW from having any weapons - therefor the LAW was broken when the father gave said weapons to his son - whom was barred from having possession of them.


What law kept the father from receiving the guns in the first place?

You said there was a law against that. I'm waiting to hear what it was.


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Why did the police give the AR-15 back to his father? There should be a law against that. Are you blind to that fact?

They do need to review whether returning those guns to the father was legal.. if it wasn't, somebody should pay for that. If it was legal, that sounds like a policy that needs to be revised.... I don't know if that would be the cops decision to give them back or the DA or who would make that decision...

The father should also be charged for giving them back to the kid KNOWING they were confiscated and he was no longer legally allowed to have access to them.


This is what needs to be done before enacting new laws. Go over the ones in place and find any weak areas and modify them adding more laws at this point will only cloud the water. Get what you have working if the can't be fix then add better safeguards. Doing things with clear minds rather than knee jerk over emotional minds will yield better results for all concerned.

Holding government responsible for actually following through on the laws instead of ignoring them.
What would that do though? This wasn't a case of a "weak" law, it was a case of a person DISREGARDING said law completely. No law would stop this man from getting a weapon.

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Why did the police give the AR-15 back to his father? There should be a law against that. Are you blind to that fact?

They do need to review whether returning those guns to the father was legal.. if it wasn't, somebody should pay for that. If it was legal, that sounds like a policy that needs to be revised.... I don't know if that would be the cops decision to give them back or the DA or who would make that decision...

The father should also be charged for giving them back to the kid KNOWING they were confiscated and he was no longer legally allowed to have access to them.


This is what needs to be done before enacting new laws. Go over the ones in place and find any weak areas and modify them adding more laws at this point will only cloud the water. Get what you have working if the can't be fix then add better safeguards. Doing things with clear minds rather than knee jerk over emotional minds will yield better results for all concerned.

Holding government responsible for actually following through on the laws instead of ignoring them.


Modifying existing laws, or replacing them with new laws, it's still change. And I'm all for it.


I am too if they are going to be enforced. Taking guns does nothing to the criminal.

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Why did the police give the AR-15 back to his father? There should be a law against that. Are you blind to that fact?

They do need to review whether returning those guns to the father was legal.. if it wasn't, somebody should pay for that. If it was legal, that sounds like a policy that needs to be revised.... I don't know if that would be the cops decision to give them back or the DA or who would make that decision...

The father should also be charged for giving them back to the kid KNOWING they were confiscated and he was no longer legally allowed to have access to them.


This is what needs to be done before enacting new laws. Go over the ones in place and find any weak areas and modify them adding more laws at this point will only cloud the water. Get what you have working if the can't be fix then add better safeguards. Doing things with clear minds rather than knee jerk over emotional minds will yield better results for all concerned.

Holding government responsible for actually following through on the laws instead of ignoring them.
What would that do though? This wasn't a case of a "weak" law, it was a case of a person DISREGARDING said law completely. No law would stop this man from getting a weapon.


As I said before Evil will find a way to do evil legal or illegally.

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Exactly, all we can do is find the person when they commit these acts, and deal with them then.

I bet you start hanging people and bringing back the firing squad - cases will become less prevalent.

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where's devil at?

cops can harass some black kids doing nothing, but can't find a naked white guy who shot up a waffle house?


WTH man?! Not even warming up anymore before going that route huh?

boo


i go all in, all the time. be mad all you want, but it seems like justice is swift for minorities, and half-assed when it comes to white guys.

apparently naked white guys.


Don't worry Swish, there's more than enough black dudes killing in Chicago and getting away with it to make up for the disparity. They only clear between 20 and 30% of cases on average which comes out to several hundred evading swift justice a year.

What's Chicago got to do with it? About as much as your BS statement smile



Interesting. You respond quicker to criticism than your colleagues do to actual crimes being committed.

Black dudes chilling at Starbucks:

Cops get there quickly.

White naked dude commits a mass shooting:

Cops: eh, we’ll find em when we find em.

Will they also take the shooter to Burger King when they find him? Y’all could use the money you illegally take from citizens to pay for it.


Let's do facts ...

How long in minutes and seconds did it take the police to arrive at each crime scene?

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Why did the police give the AR-15 back to his father? There should be a law against that. Are you blind to that fact?

They do need to review whether returning those guns to the father was legal.. if it wasn't, somebody should pay for that. If it was legal, that sounds like a policy that needs to be revised.... I don't know if that would be the cops decision to give them back or the DA or who would make that decision...

The father should also be charged for giving them back to the kid KNOWING they were confiscated and he was no longer legally allowed to have access to them.


This is what needs to be done before enacting new laws. Go over the ones in place and find any weak areas and modify them adding more laws at this point will only cloud the water. Get what you have working if the can't be fix then add better safeguards. Doing things with clear minds rather than knee jerk over emotional minds will yield better results for all concerned.

Holding government responsible for actually following through on the laws instead of ignoring them.
What would that do though? This wasn't a case of a "weak" law, it was a case of a person DISREGARDING said law completely. No law would stop this man from getting a weapon.


A law preventing the police from giving the weapons back to the father would've prevented the father from then giving the weapons to the criminal.

Make sense? I'm guessing you'll still miss the point.


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A law preventing the police from giving the weapons back to the father would've prevented the father from then giving the weapons to the criminal.

Make sense? I'm guessing you'll still miss the point.
Are you sure, because there is a law that prevented the father from giving him the guns, and he got the guns.

So if they didn't give the guns to the father, you are saying he couldn't have got A GUN from a friend, or bought one illegally, or stolen one......

you are once again completely missing the point - LAWS already in place were supposed to have stopped this before it happened, and they did not. What are more laws going to do. He was banned from having a gun. If you ban guns, you cant get one - that's what you keep saying.

He was banned from a having a gun - but he got a gun. Proof banning anything does nothing.

We banned meth, that must be why no one has any of it.....

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where's devil at?

cops can harass some black kids doing nothing, but can't find a naked white guy who shot up a waffle house?


WTH man?! Not even warming up anymore before going that route huh?

boo


i go all in, all the time. be mad all you want, but it seems like justice is swift for minorities, and half-assed when it comes to white guys.

apparently naked white guys.


Don't worry Swish, there's more than enough black dudes killing in Chicago and getting away with it to make up for the disparity. They only clear between 20 and 30% of cases on average which comes out to several hundred evading swift justice a year.

What's Chicago got to do with it? About as much as your BS statement smile



Interesting. You respond quicker to criticism than your colleagues do to actual crimes being committed.

Black dudes chilling at Starbucks:

Cops get there quickly.

White naked dude commits a mass shooting:

Cops: eh, we’ll find em when we find em.

Will they also take the shooter to Burger King when they find him? Y’all could use the money you illegally take from citizens to pay for it.


Let's do facts ...

How long in minutes and seconds did it take the police to arrive at each crime scene?


I'm surprised you bothered to ask knowing full well he won't and can't answer that question.


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Why did the police give the AR-15 back to his father? There should be a law against that. Are you blind to that fact?

They do need to review whether returning those guns to the father was legal.. if it wasn't, somebody should pay for that. If it was legal, that sounds like a policy that needs to be revised.... I don't know if that would be the cops decision to give them back or the DA or who would make that decision...

The father should also be charged for giving them back to the kid KNOWING they were confiscated and he was no longer legally allowed to have access to them.


This is what needs to be done before enacting new laws. Go over the ones in place and find any weak areas and modify them adding more laws at this point will only cloud the water. Get what you have working if the can't be fix then add better safeguards. Doing things with clear minds rather than knee jerk over emotional minds will yield better results for all concerned.

Holding government responsible for actually following through on the laws instead of ignoring them.
What would that do though? This wasn't a case of a "weak" law, it was a case of a person DISREGARDING said law completely. No law would stop this man from getting a weapon.


As I said before Evil will find a way to do evil legal or illegally.


There you go .... ban all laws.


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where's devil at?

cops can harass some black kids doing nothing, but can't find a naked white guy who shot up a waffle house?


WTH man?! Not even warming up anymore before going that route huh?

boo


i go all in, all the time. be mad all you want, but it seems like justice is swift for minorities, and half-assed when it comes to white guys.

apparently naked white guys.


Don't worry Swish, there's more than enough black dudes killing in Chicago and getting away with it to make up for the disparity. They only clear between 20 and 30% of cases on average which comes out to several hundred evading swift justice a year.

What's Chicago got to do with it? About as much as your BS statement smile



Interesting. You respond quicker to criticism than your colleagues do to actual crimes being committed.

Black dudes chilling at Starbucks:

Cops get there quickly.

White naked dude commits a mass shooting:

Cops: eh, we’ll find em when we find em.

Will they also take the shooter to Burger King when they find him? Y’all could use the money you illegally take from citizens to pay for it.


Let's do facts ...

How long in minutes and seconds did it take the police to arrive at each crime scene?


Is this a riddle? Can you do a fact and tell us?

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Its a QUESTION asking for DETAILS ...

Two things ya’all are deathly afraid of and u avoid them like the plague ...

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Two things ya’all are deathly afraid of and u avoid them like the plague ...

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you do facts by asking questions? That's weird. It's probably the reason you guys are always confused though.

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Its a QUESTION asking for DETAILS ...

Two things ya’all are deathly afraid of and u avoid them like the plague ...

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Hey lazy bones you've had all day here. What's the facts?


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Two things ya’all are deathly afraid of and u avoid them like the plague ...

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Hey lazy bones you've had all day here. What's the facts?
I don't think Diam was the one waiting for the info about amount of the time the police took to get to both cases.....

however, you have had I think several weeks now to show how you went from 12% to 25% tax bracket....

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Hey lazy bones you've had all day here. What's the facts?


The burden of proof relies entirely on the left in this forum. The only time they post facts is to climate deny. If one of us were to say that gravity is real, we would have 4 responses asking for proof. If they'd stop calling us libs, and call us google.

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Apparently a lot quicker than it took the cops to respond to a mass shooting incident.

It’s funny watching conservatives suck up to devil on this board, despite the fact that he can barely defend his own profession every time we end up in these discussions.

But it makes sense.

The cops are only moments away when it comes to arresting minorities.

White mass shooters? The funeral home would arrive quicker.

Oh wait, the cops would arrive, but they will just wait outside until they stop hearing shots go off.


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