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I never said "never".

Do not. Never. Same thing.

Never say never again.

Bond film, wasn't it?

I, on the other hand, would not be surprised if Dorsey and Haslam bought Hue a miniskirt and pom poms for Christmas.

Nothing would surprise me at this point. ...Except a winning season.

Yet, here I am hoping to be surprised.

He’s clearly the cause of dysfunction .... CLEARLY ... not sure how thats even debatable ... he’s opened up the CIRCUS here with dysfunction between FO and the Coachng Staffs being the main theme ..... with the big top event being last years bye week show ... hes been the worst owner in the history of proffesional sports so far ..



Are u reffering to the one he just sold cause he RIPPED HIS SUPPLIERS OFF and got caught? ... this man is not a good or nice guy ... hes an abrasive bully that is a THIEF!!!!



I was HOPEFUL and OPTOMISTIC cause of the years he was a minority owner of the Stilers .... i was thinking ... one of the best org’s to learn from ... smart move getting in there to start learning ...

Within a year i was asking myself ... what the hell did he do ... take what he learned from Pit and decide to do the OPPOSITE OF EVERYTHING they taught him ... crap, it took him 3 years to have as many HC’s as Pit had in their last 50 ...

This dude can’t hire people that can WORK TOGETHER .... just look at our history since hes been here ... NONE of the FO’s and Coaching staffs have gotten along ... NOT ONE OF THEM ...

Normally i would say NO WAY IN HELL is this true .. NO WAY ... but it seems to be the thiefs modus operandi ...

I dont think this story is true ... but thats based more on the fact i have to think it can’t be true ... cause if it is true, that would tell me that Dorsey’s a POS also ... and we all ready have to many POS in our org ...

Thanks Grimm ... everytime they show Hue on the sideline this year I’m going to picture Hue in a skirt and Pom Pom’s ... not the visual i want ..... *LOL* ...

Charlie Casserly was on last night and said that they didn't make the final decision on Williams over Bush until 2 days before the draft

The reason there is so much murkiness in this draft is that because Hue doesn't know, Mike Silver wasn't told 2 minutes later. Anyone watching Mike Silvers timeline the past few years know Hue has a big ass mouth.

Yup. And it was just said on the radio that there is a reason Mike Silver is not in Berea covering the Browns' draft for the NFL Network.

I just don't get why Hue would share intel? I mean, especially if the GM was just like "hey, let's keep this in-house"

Is Hue that desperate to be liked? Does he just care about the positive press?

It makes no sense on any level .... and if he distrusts him that much ... how the hell can they work together? ... thats awfully awfully tough ...

IF this is true ... this isn’t good ...

I find all this discussion of distrust and dysfunction between JD and HJ incredible, as in lacking credibility. If it's true, it's incredibly bad.

They probably aren't working together.

There really is no need. Dorsey isn't going to help Hue coach the team, nor does he need any real input on players.

Think about it. Just about everything Hue has wanted, we have gone in a different direction. Dorsey knows that Hue was a big reason why Sashi was canned.

This is a forced relationship at this point. Dorsey isn't going to get too buddy buddy with Hue.

I think that might be a fairly accurate picture .. I would throw in the large penalty in the third year of Hue's contract that Hasslam didn't want to eat ( again ).. Just my Opinion ..

That is the reason why.

That's how it is these days Diam. All someone has to do is Tweet some stupid BS and if it fits the narrative people want to believe, it's suddenly gospel! lmao

You know most of this board is nothing more than the Hue Haters Club and they'll believe anything and everything negative that someone, anyone has to say about the guy. It doesn't matter that there is no real evidence other than some Tweet.

It sounds like what they want to believe so it HAS to be true!

Like you know, poor Sashi trusted Hue when it came to drafting QB's and they were actually Hue's picks. lmao

That's why Sashi was fired and Hue was kept. What's that things you always do? 1+1=2

I dont believe for one minute that Hue is left in the dark on anything.

I'd feel foolish getting caught up in that poop.

And when they state in the presser after the selection that "he was our guy all along", some will still be twisting it to suit their narrative.

Yeah, and his antics landed him where he's at. I'm even starting to question how heavy his suggestions/etc are taken by the front office on prospects for one example.

It all doesn't look good when you pray that the staff is and can collaborate.

Theres a big difference between being buddy buddy and working together and being on the same page ...

They should be working together not working in their own little boxes .....

I could care less if their buddy buddy ... but they damm well best be WORKING TOGETHER ... and im not sure how u do that IF this is true ... u have to trust each other ... if not it creates a toxic enviroment ...

I have to believe this isn’t true .... it just doesnt make sense ....

Remaining as the HC of The Cleveland Browns?

Maybe just believing things doesn't make it so?

Choice in headlines (are tweets headlines now?):

"John Dorsey sets decision for #1 pick @ 7:00PM Wednesday Night"

"@AkronJackson said #Browns general manager John Dorsey won’t tell head coach Hue Jackson what quarterback he’s drafting with the first overall pick until Wednesday night."


Which one generates intrigue /imagined stories of dysfunction (and new followers)?

I am not getting involved in this nonsense, but why in the world would you even consider that story to be true? Also, guys tweeting about Z. Jackson's claim doesn't make it more true. This board has become ridiculous.

Jerking the media around is probably great fun for these guys! If asked if Mayfield is in play at one and you answer very possibly it becomes a surefire leadpipe lock headline! "Dorsey says Mayfield very probable at number one"!

Someone please just write, "Draft is Thursday and nobody knows S***"!

"Draft is Thursday and nobody knows S***"

Amen, Mutt! Stop wasting our time with contrived crap. Mel looks like he needs relief from indigestion or the more painful afflictions. These mocks are just an exercise in fiction.

Hurry up, Thursday!

I have to say it was much better when you needed solid sources and Twitter wasn't allowed. Now any twit can Twitter and it's suddenly a source. Pure hogwash.

I have a feeling that Dorsey likes 2 of the QBs, and is hoping to get the Giants to trade up to #1. I doubt it will be the case, but all of these so called leaks, with different names left and right ..... it would make sense.

Personally, I think Hue knows, but is sworn to secrecy. As it should be.

I don't believe there are any leaks at all.

I think people are simply guessing and trying to get hits to their web sites and TV shows.

The draft is big business. It rakes in huge amounts of money. Reporters and supposed draft gurus have the job of generating revenue. What surprises me is how people fall for their BS year, after year, after year.

I agree.

Dorsey probably could just as easily have said "Not even my wife will know the pick until Wednesday evening" ...... but then people wouldn't have been able to freak out as much. (though I am sure they would have found a way to do so anyway)

That's the only thing I keep coming back to when thinking about why there is so much secrecy. If we want QBX and the Giants want QBY, it doesn't hurt to leak or let NY think we might be interested in QBY. If they offer a pick to come up and get QBY, we can still get QBX. Just a waiting game to see if the Giants bite.

I would love to believe this story isn't true, but every fabric in my being is telling me it is. Dorsey had a reputation as being someone who could be tough to work with coming here, and Hue is a known leaker.....I wouldn't trust him either to keep a secret.

The truth is if Dorsey doesn't trust him (and apparently he doesn't if this true) then there is probably some fire to the smoke that he wanted to can Hue last year and Haslem wouldn't let him.

Dude Haslem has been and continues to be the problem. I said when we hired Dorsey that Hue would be gone within a year, and I still think he will be. The key is will Haslem let Dorsey do his job and hire a HC that reports to him??

The structure in place leads to this type of chaos, and personally I think Haslem likes it this way because it puts him right at the center of attention.....guy is a douche.

Of course they could be gaming us and are tricking us into giving them the shot at QBX.

I do think there is a possibility that the Browns trade out of 4 for some additional first and second rounders this year. I like the thought of Barkley more than Chubb, and there ate teams looking for a QB.

The Browns are trying to figure out where the Giants may go, and NY media is as well. I find it curious that most of the scenarios work it so the Giants take Darnold.

I can't wrap my mind around Denver drafting a QB after signing Keenum.

If some team is offering a future first, you basically have to take the deal.



Everyone is saying it's Darnold or Barkley for the Giants. Darnold will probably be gone when they pick. . .



But we traded for Tyrod Taylor and are going draft a QB. Last year the Bears signed Mike Glennon and the Chiefs had Patrick Mahomes. If the right guy is there you have to take him. Especially because Case Keenum has had only one good year (while surrounded by excellent talent). Also, Keenum only signed a two year deal.

Like. . . ever?

Everyone knew we were taking Myles Garrett last year.

Everyone knew the Rams were taking Jared Goff and the Eagles were taking Carson Wentz the year before.

How did we know those things?