|
|
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 2,137
Dawg Talker
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 2,137 |
Dorsey has stated EVERY KID does stupid stuff- TRUE, BUT do you make a guy who was publicly drunk, tackled by Cop the face of your football team- AND after we've been connected to Johnny "IDIOT DRUNK" Manziel- makes no sense to me. He wouldn't be on my board.....ask yourself this, what percentage of students going to college are publicly drunk- our best and brightest- has to be less than 10 percent, yet he's going to represent the Browns....Please, NO.....GO Browns!!!!
"You've never lived till you've almost died, life has a flavor the protected will never know" A vet or cop
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,313
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,313 |
You must not have gone to college.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 450
1st String
|
|
1st String
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 450 |
Sam Darnold laid a big brown turd Wednesday afternoon. A sure sign he will go number one to Cleveland Thursday evening... I heard it had corn in it... Corn = Ohio = Cleveland. (Because Cincy has Dalton)
Last edited by 442Dawg; 04/25/18 04:17 PM.
"You're gonna do WHAT?!"
-Tim Robbins as Merlin in Top Gun
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188
Legend
|
|
OP
Legend
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188 |
I didnt mean scared to take Baker ... hes not even close to JM ...
I’m just scared ... dont want us to BROWN THIS ...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,660
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,660 |
Sometimes the NFL turns into Bravo.
"He's matching a neutral color. That must mean he's totally going out with the Browns!"
"Did you see what Rosen was wearing on the Golf Course? How disgraceful."
I could go on, but you get the point. Yes, he decided not go with the orange tie in favor of ambiguity...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 2,137
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 2,137 |
Masters degree, and an educator....most aren't drunks. Although booze is our most abused drug.....GO Browns!!!
"You've never lived till you've almost died, life has a flavor the protected will never know" A vet or cop
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 2,137
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 2,137 |
Darnold might have bought his Brown tie, hope he has some inside info...real embarrassing if he's not the pick....some reports state he wasn't as good as others on white board- lots of false crap being reported/posted...tomorrow night can't come soon enough....GO Browns!!!!
"You've never lived till you've almost died, life has a flavor the protected will never know" A vet or cop
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,979
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,979 |
I just wanted to add that I was all in on taking Wentz, but I was OK with the trade because of the value we got back. I was wrong. We should have gone with the best player, instead of passing on him.
I wasn't a fan of Deshaun Watson, and was fine with us passing on him. I was wrong.
We need to get the best QB in the draft, and I firmly believe that is Sam Darnold, especially if he can sit and learn for a year. (or maybe even 2) These guys are Interviewing for a Job in the NFL from the time they are 12 years old. I can't believe that the best Football player in the entire world, which is/was interviewing for a Job in the NFL from the time he was 12-15 years old ended up at Wyoming, pretty much a lesser division program. So I don't know how the Browns could be considering Allen at #1. These guys have been interviewing for a Job in the NFL from the time they were 12-15 years old, What you are hiring this guy to do is take an offense, lead it down the field to score toucdowns, win football games, against the best competition in the World. The only part so far these guys have had to prove what they can do is their college careers. None of these guys have had the career of Baker Mayfield at the college level, (Not all of his throws will be available at the NFL level, but a lot of his game will. Nobody has even tried to convince me that Darnold, or the others have proven to be the best , and again, They are playing in College, but so far, that's where all of them have "had" to play, the most successful one so far, is Mayfield, and I think he's going to continue to be. If they don't take Mayfield, they'll be playing against him in week 3 when the Jets come to town, and have to see how that would work out for them. Mayfield Rudolph Jackson Darnold, Rosen, maybe Allen. in 1999, I think I first liked Cade McNown Culpepper, and McNabb 2-3, I was back and forth on them Then people were talking about Akili Smith, and Couch, so I guess I put them in , but I never wanted Couch because he played for Kentucky. If the talking heads and the Hollywood Elite hadn't brought up Darnold and Rosen, I don't know if many would have even noticed them, Maybe I would have noticed Darnold, some, as an afterthought, but he didn't win much. I don't think he's going to be the best, I hope the Browns take Mayfield, he's going to be a tough one to beat. We'll know in 28 hours or so.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,070
Legend
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,070 |
Remembering the stars of Animal House . . . .
"Every responsibility implies opportunity, and every opportunity implies responsibility." Otis Allen Glazebrook, 1880
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 |
If the talking heads and the Hollywood Elite hadn't brought up Darnold and Rosen, I don't know if many would have even noticed them,
Maybe I would have noticed Darnold, some, as an afterthought, but he didn't win much. !
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,979
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,979 |
Dorsey has stated EVERY KID does stupid stuff- TRUE, BUT do you make a guy who was publicly drunk, tackled by Cop the face of your football team- AND after we've been connected to Johnny "IDIOT DRUNK" Manziel- makes no sense to me. He wouldn't be on my board.....ask yourself this, what percentage of students going to college are publicly drunk- our best and brightest- has to be less than 10 percent, yet he's going to represent the Browns....Please, NO.....GO Browns!!!! You are not hiring this person to run a 40 yd dash You are not hiring them to look good in a suit or eat with good table manners at the fancy restaurant. You are not even hiring this person to become the face of the community, though it kind of comes with the territory. You are hiring them to beat the Steelers on Sunday afternnon, what they do with the other 164 hours a week is their own business.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,030
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,030 |
Here is why I think it's still Sam......
1. Last year everyone assumed the favorite for #1 was Garrett, and he was the presumed pick.
2 Right before the draft Mitch Tribs becomes the "likely" choice, or the Browns are torn...lol.
This year Darnold has been the "likely" pick for awhile. Not a no brainer like Garrett, but he has been the guy most associated with us at 1. Another guy who has always been associated with us is Allen.
The only guy in this equation who is coming out of left field is Mayfield. He hasn't really been talked about with the Browns until this week. Heck Mayfield and his own people don't think he's coming to Cleveland according to Robert Klemko of SI and others.
Either this is the biggest swerve at the top of the draft in a while or its just pre-draft rumor BS.......my hunch is the latter.
The two constants for the past two months have been Darnold and Allen. I choose to think Darnold, because Allen scares the crap out of me...lol.
Against logic,the most effective armor is willful ignorance.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,468
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,468 |
Darnold looks more and more like Kizer version 2, Mr Turnover. Rozen may have injury concerns, and attitude problems.
Allen accuracy problems.
Mayfield height.
It's starting to look more and more like it could be Mayfield, Allen or Jackson. Is he playing somewhere I'm not aware of? He could not be looking more and more like Kizer if he isn't. It is just the turnover emphasis that we are hearing more about now. Darnold's fumbles and interceptions were always a worry, but was downplayed by the Browns. Now, close to the draft, it seems as though the Browns are considering his turnovers more. Perhaps that is why so much media content was focused on Allen. To me, all the QBs have flaws, so I think the Browns will most likely go for the one with the least on field performance issues.
The Cleveland Browns - WE KNOW QUARTERBACKS ( Look at how many we've had ... )
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,809
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,809 |
Looking at the numbers, Darnolds turnovers are not much different that the other top Qb's except for Baker Mayfield. I would argue that Rosen had more of a turnover issue, Jackson was fairly similar and Allen was close on a per attempt basis. Darnold 12 interceptions out of 480 attempts in 14 games, though 6 in the 1st 3. With 11 fumbles Rosen 10 interceptions out of 452 attempts in 11 games - 3 vs Arizona With 8 fumbles Jackson 10 interception out of 430 attempts in 13 games With 9 fumbles Mayfield 6 interception out of 404 attempts in 14 games With <4 fumbles - he didn't have enough to make the list I found Allen 6 interceptions out of 270 attempts in 13 games (He actually had 15 in 2016) With 5 fumbles ---------------------------------- Passing stats are from ESPN.com Fumbles stats are from https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/player-stat/fumblesCaveat - I do not know if the fumbles are all fumbles or just fumbles lost
Am I perfect? No
Am I trying to be a better person?
Also no
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,475
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,475 |
To bad you totally missed the boat on Mayfield.
Man I hope he is our guy but I got a feeling its Darnold. Which will still make me happy.
Defense wins championships. Watson play your butt off!
Go Browns!
CHRIST HAS RISEN!
GM Strong! & Stay safe everyone!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,660
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,660 |
Darnold looks more and more like Kizer version 2, Mr Turnover. Rozen may have injury concerns, and attitude problems.
Allen accuracy problems.
Mayfield height.
It's starting to look more and more like it could be Mayfield, Allen or Jackson. Laughable.... I have watched Darnold drop passes over DB's into a bucket at 30 yards on the move. Numerous times. Kiser could not hit the broad side of a barn from 10. Accuracy is his strength, and he makes something out of nothing, and sometimes wont give up on a play.
Welcome back, Joe, we missed you!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,376
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,376 |
J/C
With everything said and done the day before the draft, Darnold is my guy. I really hope he's our quarterback 24 hours from now.
A year behind Tyrod Taylor will do him the world of good, and I'd feel really confident moving forward that we had our guy.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,979
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,979 |
Here is why I think it's still Sam......
1. Last year everyone assumed the favorite for #1 was Garrett, and he was the presumed pick.
2 Right before the draft Mitch Tribs becomes the "likely" choice, or the Browns are torn...lol.
This year Darnold has been the "likely" pick for awhile. Not a no brainer like Garrett, but he has been the guy most associated with us at 1. Another guy who has always been associated with us is Allen.
The only guy in this equation who is coming out of left field is Mayfield. He hasn't really been talked about with the Browns until this week. Heck Mayfield and his own people don't think he's coming to Cleveland according to Robert Klemko of SI and others.
Either this is the biggest swerve at the top of the draft in a while or its just pre-draft rumor BS.......my hunch is the latter.
The two constants for the past two months have been Darnold and Allen. I choose to think Darnold, because Allen scares the crap out of me...lol. The thing is, if it were Darnold, they could have just announced it already, they haven't. I think Mayfield has about as much chance to be the #1 overall pick as "Donald Trump has at becoming President" huh huh huh. (Well I mean it might be a similar surprise to some groups)
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,468
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,468 |
Darnold looks more and more like Kizer version 2, Mr Turnover. Rozen may have injury concerns, and attitude problems.
Allen accuracy problems.
Mayfield height.
It's starting to look more and more like it could be Mayfield, Allen or Jackson. Laughable.... I have watched Darnold drop passes over DB's into a bucket at 30 yards on the move. Numerous times. Kiser could not hit the broad side of a barn from 10. Accuracy is his strength, and he makes something out of nothing, and sometimes wont give up on a play. Have you also seen Darnold fumble ? That is the big worry.. As I have stated, all of the QBs have problems, that's why there is no clear #1. This is not an Andrew Luck draft. There is no clear 100 % perfect top pick.
The Cleveland Browns - WE KNOW QUARTERBACKS ( Look at how many we've had ... )
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,101
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,101 |
The thing is, if it were Darnold, they could have just announced it already, they haven't.
Have you seen the NFL draft in the last few years? A team could know who they are going to draft the moment they know they have the first pick, and the NFL will want them to keep it secret. The 'mystery' feeds drama that makes the Draft a profitable event.
1. #GMstrong
2. "I'm just trying to be the best Nick I can be." ~ Nick Chubb
3. Forgive me Elf, I didn’t have faith. ~ Tulsa
4. ClemenZa #1
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,809
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,809 |
Darnold looks more and more like Kizer version 2, Mr Turnover. Rozen may have injury concerns, and attitude problems.
Allen accuracy problems.
Mayfield height.
It's starting to look more and more like it could be Mayfield, Allen or Jackson. Laughable.... I have watched Darnold drop passes over DB's into a bucket at 30 yards on the move. Numerous times. Kiser could not hit the broad side of a barn from 10. Accuracy is his strength, and he makes something out of nothing, and sometimes wont give up on a play. Have you also seen Darnold fumble ? That is the big worry.. As I have stated, all of the QBs have problems, that's why there is no clear #1. This is not an Andrew Luck draft. There is no clear 100 % perfect top pick. Look 5 posts above yours
Am I perfect? No
Am I trying to be a better person?
Also no
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,101
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,101 |
On 1/1/17 I made a point of watching the Rose Bowl. There had been a lot of talk about the 19 y/o R/S Freshman QB for USC, and I wanted to see for myself. What I saw was Sam Darnold take over the game in the 4th and guide/inspire/will his team to overcome a 14 pt deficit against one of the best college teams in the country. I saw the potential for greatness, and knew in that moment, I wanted Darnold to be the Browns QB. Nothing has changed. He has his warts, but I believe in my soul that Darnold is the guy who can lead the Browns to top of the NFL.
Allen has the most bust potential. I think Mayfield can be, and Rosen will be, good NFL QBs. But Darnold has the potential to be great. I WANT DARNOLD!!
1. #GMstrong
2. "I'm just trying to be the best Nick I can be." ~ Nick Chubb
3. Forgive me Elf, I didn’t have faith. ~ Tulsa
4. ClemenZa #1
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 172
Practice Squad
|
|
Practice Squad
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 172 |
I follow the Trojans - so as a Browns fan I never want them to draft a USC QB
Darnold is different - his will to win is what separates him
.... yes Mayfield is probably just as competitive and I think Rosen has the ego to push him.
But for 2+ years Darnold has been under the microscope and he has shown well (got a little sloppy with the ball but I give him a + for how he navigated all the drama around USC, the good lord knows he will see it here).
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,101
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,101 |
If the Browns draft Darnold, I'm changing my name from W84NxtYrAgain to W8NoMore.
1. #GMstrong
2. "I'm just trying to be the best Nick I can be." ~ Nick Chubb
3. Forgive me Elf, I didn’t have faith. ~ Tulsa
4. ClemenZa #1
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188
Legend
|
|
OP
Legend
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188 |
If the Browns draft Darnold, I'm changing my name from W84NxtYrAgain to W8NoMore. Holy crap .. i now know what your handle means .... *LOL* ... I want Sam ... but i think its gonna be baker ... Here’s to hopin you change your handle around 8:30 tonight .... 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,101
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,101 |
Hehe. Nobody seems to get it. I've only explained it about 8 times. 
1. #GMstrong
2. "I'm just trying to be the best Nick I can be." ~ Nick Chubb
3. Forgive me Elf, I didn’t have faith. ~ Tulsa
4. ClemenZa #1
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 |
So if we take Mayfield, do the Giants take Darnold over Barkley?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,307
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,307 |
So if we take Mayfield, do the Giants take Darnold over Barkley? Giants are taking Rosen,just hope we take Darnold.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 |
So if we take Mayfield, do the Giants take Darnold over Barkley? Giants are taking Rosen,just hope we take Darnold. I don’t think that’s happening. The Giants have been linked to Barkley all along.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,809
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,809 |
Hehe. Nobody seems to get it. I've only explained it about 8 times. I got right off the bat, clever screen name. I keep going back and forth between the Qb's but I think that I have sttled on Darnold as my top pick. When he is throwing the football, he gives me that feeling that I get watching Jason Kidd play point guard. The way they see the open man and distribute the ball is uncanny. I am okay with Mayfield. We all wonder how he will fit the ball into tight windows but we know that he can hit the open man. And frankly, I think the windows in the NFL exist bigger than most people think. The difference is that in the NFL those windows close. So you need to be able to see them as they start to open and get the ball there before they close. It's anticipation and timing. I'd be fine with Rosen though those concussions worry the crap out of me. I'd be okay with Jackson, though I am not sure Hue would be willing to mold an offense around his abilities. I don't know if Haley would or not. The only guy that I have issue with is Allen. Frankly, I'd rather have Rudolph and White.
Last edited by Jester; 04/26/18 11:30 AM.
Am I perfect? No
Am I trying to be a better person?
Also no
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188
Legend
|
|
OP
Legend
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188 |
I’ve believed the gnats are going qb since day 1 .... ive seen or read nuttin that makes me believe thats still not what there going to do ...
IMO ther taking a QB weather Sam is our pick or not ....
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,660
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,660 |
I’ve believed the gnats are going qb since day 1 .... ive seen or read nuttin that makes me believe thats still not what there going to do ...
IMO ther taking a QB weather Sam is our pick or not ....
That would leave us the pick of the crop -QB. That would be our best case scenario, to draft one @4, instead of kicking the can down the road again ... imo ...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188
Legend
|
|
OP
Legend
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188 |
I want Fitz in case u were wondering .... *LOL* ... i am now a HUGE FAN of trading down ... to like 7 or 8 ... best chance for us to take Fitz ... witch im all for ... So for me .... TRADE DOWN ...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,660
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,660 |
I want Fitz in case u were wondering .... *LOL* ... i am now a HUGE FAN of trading down ... to like 7 or 8 ... best chance for us to take Fitz ... witch im all for ... So for me .... TRADE DOWN ... Oh I know lol ...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,436
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,436 |
no offense, but it makes me really nervous when you have a guy's name, 3 times, in your signature.  
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,660
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,660 |
no offense, but it makes me really nervous when you have a guy's name, 3 times, in your signature. Man crush ... I get those too ... Chubb! I'll take two lol...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188
Legend
|
|
OP
Legend
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188 |
no offense, but it makes me really nervous when you have a guy's name, 3 times, in your signature. Bro .. i changed it up at your request ... instead of just the name 3 times i put in the added verbiage cause u suggested i change things up .... it was a compromise IMO ... *LOL* ...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,537
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,537 |
We need to take Darnold at #1 and trade up to #2 to get Barkley.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,436
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,436 |
no offense, but it makes me really nervous when you have a guy's name, 3 times, in your signature. Bro .. i changed it up at your request ... instead of just the name 3 times i put in the added verbiage cause u suggested i change things up .... it was a compromise IMO ... *LOL* ... LOL. I guess that makes all the difference. I was in on Fitz at first, but the more I thought about it, the more I think Chubb is the right choice at 4.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 16,192
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 16,192 |
Starting to get that sick feeling again.
Mayfield talk. Trade the four pick.
This looks so simple to me. Darnold is the best quarterback prospect in this draft and if we don't get him. Same old story: wish we would have.
The fourth pick. Clean options to get an impact player.
I don't get it if this is how it goes down.
|
|
|
DawgTalkers.net
Forums The Archives 2018 NFL Season 2018 NFL Draft Sam Darnold .. Chapter 3 ..
|
|
