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Edmunds by Pittsburgh.
Vander Esch by Dallas

Broncos not drafting Rosen. Wow. My friend will be pissed.

McGlinchey to the 49ers.

Allen to the Bills. I understand it, but I don't think highly of Allen.

Odd as I saw zero mention of Terrell Edmunds as a first round pick anywhere..
Then noticed he was in the green room and knew some team must have promised to take him...luckily it was Pitt lol

IMO not many teams had a more risky/questionable pick(s) than we did

Eh, I disagree. Ward was seen as a high pick. Maybe not the tier Chubb and Barkley were. But right behind.

And Mayfield was supposed to go three to the Jets. We selected him 1. I don't see that as questionable.

Arguments can certainly be made for Darnold over Mayfield. I disagree. Darnold was my third guy because I found his decision making was questionable this year. And there had to be a reason Rosen fell. I mean, he was the one who seemed to be far and away the best of all the QB prospects to me.


The 49ers pick and that O-Lineman, that Edmunds, and the RB (Penny) seemed like bigger reaches than either of our picks for sure

EDIT: Oh, and the trade up by New Orleans for Davenport. I dunno what was up with that

Trading up for Davenport.

Taking Kolton Miller at 15.

Trading 12, 53, and 56 for Josh Allen.

Edmunds to Pitt.

I really like Davenport for the Saints, but it was pretty expensive.

The Raiders taking Kolton Miller that high surprised me. It kind of fits-I'd heard him called the West Coast Bruce Campbell. Felt like a pick Al might have made.

Yes, we choose the #15 and #22 ranked prospects at #1 and #4. Could not have been any worse.

This is because some idiot handed them Chubb on a silver platter.

Oh good lord ... it could have been WAY WORSE and u know it ...

I get your upset, i’m extremely dissapointed ..... venting ones thing but lets try and keep it at least with a smidge of reality ...

yes, cause Mayock draft board is the legend that all NFL teams use. . . . .

I don't care where they are ranked, Tom Brady was a 6th rounder, Wilson a 3rd, so on and so on. Its not a scientific method, no matter how much time you sit you youtube and listen to NFL Network.

I was a little perturbed, as I wanted different players as well, but if these kids ball out, who give rats behind where we drafted them.

Plenty of SHOCKERS to me from other teams ....

1. Bills taking the wrong Josh there ... they got a GIFT and turned it down ...i was at a bar about an hour outside Buffalo ... tons of bills fans ... when they traded up they went nuts ... one dude walked by us just then that had a Jill’s shirt on with the name on the back taped over with ... anyone but Allen on it .....

Then they made the pick ... 2 minutes later many of them had their Jill’s shirts off ... ...

2. Niners taking McGlinchey ...

3. Raiders reaching for Miller ...

4. I have no clue what the draft value chart says nor do i care ... that 10th pick had A TON OF VALUE cause of the QB available there and he was a VERY VERY VIABLE option for the next team picking ....

I thought they gave that pick away ..... GAVE IT AWAY ... they didnt even get a 2nd rounder ...

I read pre-draft that the Broncos were really high on Ward.
Had we chosen Chubb, they would have taken Ward

Indy was also really high on Ward

While many of us (me included) would have preferred Chubb, Ward is by no means a reach

I don't get the Steelers pick.
How many people complained that we gave them their next Troy when Banner traded with them allowing them to get Sharmako Thomas

Agree w/Diam. Oakland gave away pick #10

Dorsey better not unpack his suitcase. Last night was laughable.
I do not agree with Mayfield, but it is a better pick than Ward. That was ridiculous.

We could have had Barkley (#1) and taken Mayfield at 4. I would be that scenario could have occurred.

I am guessing Dorsey thought Ward was a better prospect than Barkley. That tells me a lot.

I think most of the guys have already been mentioned. But these are the guys that shocked my friend and I when they came off the board:

McGlinchey at 9 was shocking. Maybe the Niners were so disappointed that Roquan Smith went a pick before them that they just let somebody's kid send up the pick? But from what I've heard from a lot of people is that this guy just doesn't seem to be a solid left tackle. So he went top 10?

Rashaad Penny at 27 was pretty jaw-dropping. Not so much that he went at the end of the first. More that he went before every other RB not named Barkley.

Frank Ragnow at 20 and over Billy Price, James Daniels and Austin Corbett really had us scratching our heads. That might of been the reach of the night if not for ...

Terrell Edmunds getting picked by the Steelers at 28. He was in the Green room, yes. But that was probably more due to the fact that his brother was the 16th pick. Everyone was so awed and inspired by Ryan Shazier walking, that they didn't bother to stop and question this pick either.

Kolton Miller at 15 and Hayden Hurst at 25 were a little reachy too.

The Browns picks we not terrible reaches. Most boards and mocks I've seen had Denzel Ward rated in the top 10 (and in many cases the top pure CB). Mayfield was usually mocked to go within the top 5. And in my opinion, was probably the #1 guy on the Jets' board.

We should probably have another thread called, "Great value selections". For that I'd say: Derwin James to the Chargers at 17, Fitzpatrick to the Dolphins at 11, and Calvin Ridley to the Falcons at 26 were pretty good pickups.

I gotta add Rosen to the Cards at 10 as a GREAT VALUE especially when u factor in what they gave up for him ...

Agree with Fitz and James ...

Browns selected Ohio State CB Denzel Ward with the No. 4 overall pick in the 2018 NFL Draft.

This is a bit of a shock with NC State DE Bradley Chubb still on the board, but it is not a reach. Ward (5’11/183) rotated with Marshon Lattimore as a sophomore before exploding as a 2017 junior for first-team All-America honors with 17 pass breakups and two picks. Per PFF College, Ward allowed a stingy 35.1% completion rate in 2017 and 54.0 career passer rating when targeted. On tape, Ward showed dominant man-cover skills with fluid hips, lightning-quick feet, and blazing speed, and had a knack for forcing quarterbacks to make especially tiny-window throws to earn completions. He tested as a rare 98th-percentile SPARQ athlete in Indy, destroying the forty (4.32), vertical (39"), and broad (11’4") jumps. Be it in the slot or outside, Ward’s one-on-one matchup ability gives him the highest ceiling in this cornerback class.

Could have gotten a very good CB at top of 2nd round. We could have had Chubb and a very good CB. Now we get the leftover pass rushers. We gave up a real difference maker.

Sorry but that is not true, no way you know that. If we had taken Barkley at 1, you have no idea what happens with the Giants at 2 and its very possible both Darnold and Mayfield are gone by 4 because all reports had the Jets high on Mayfield too. Rosen lasted until 10 so what does that say about him? If Mayfield is your man you take him at the point that its guaranteed he is there.

I didn't want Barkley at #1, no way I want any RB at #1.

Good summary.

Calvin Ridley to Atlanta, why tho.

49ers taking McGlinchey

Saints making the trade they did for Davenport.

I like Penny, but was surprised to see him go in the 1st.

I feel bad for Bills fans getting saddled with Allen.

Yeah, I forgot about that one. The pick itself wasn't so much a reach, just that the Saints gave up so much to move up and get him there. Were they that desperate to get a pass rusher?

I like McGlinchey a lot. Have to protect the 150m dollar man.

I agree. The run on OL was a little unexpected. I also was surprised the Steelers and Seahawks took who they did. That pushed about 5 players back

Yeah, I'm anxious to see what we do with those 2 picks, lots of talent there for the taking.

We couldn't make it work with the #1 and the #4, so why do you think we can get it with the 2nd round picks...

Dorsey is a smartass, so expect some more dumb decisions

I think that Ward will be a shut down, pro Bowl caliber CB. He has great talent, hips, speed, straight line and closing speed, quick hands, can intercept the ball, has great instincts, and is a very good tackler. he was the guy I had the Browns taking if they had traded down a little bit, but I am fine with taking him at 4.

He is, far and above, the best press CB in this draft, and that was almost certainly Williams's top, number one with a bullet, request for the draft. I am really excited to have him on the team, and am thrilled that we finally drafted a Buckeye.

As far as Chubb, I would absolutely have loved to have him on the team too, and he was the player I had us taking at 4 for quite a while now, but you can't take everyone. The Browns felt that Ward was the best player, who best felt what they needed, so they took him. It would be different if the Browns would have passed on Chubb for a zone CB, but they didn't. Williams wanted a press corner, and the Browns got the best one, and from a school that has had great success churning out great CBs lately.

As much as I did not like the Mayfield pick, I do love the Ward pick.

Could not agree more. I am expecting crap today and tomorrow from Dorsey. Seems like a real jarhead.

How can you pass on the best pass rusher in the draft when our team struggled mightily to get sacks last year?

Ward pick made no sense whatsoever. NONE.

That is simply untrue. The Ward pick makes a ton of sense, as I detailed above.

Makes no sense.

I also think the Ward pick had a lot to do with balancing out the talent/money designation along the defense. We have Garrett/Ogbah in front as top picks and making a lot of money. Collins/Kirksey in the middle. Needed something on the back end.

You have to sack the QB in the NFL. That is priority number 1 on the defensive side of the ball. Dorsey screwed up by talking himself into the pick.

We got mid first round talent at the top of the 1st round and now you expect them to get 1st round talent at the top of the 2nd round. I expect late 2nd round reaches at 33 and 35.

no pick was more stupid than the bills trading up to grab Josh Allen.