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Who starts at QB now, Taylor or Mayfield? Are the Browns going to let their #1 overall pick sit for a year?

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According to Jackson and Dorsey, TT is the starter. No practices have occurred.

We'll find out.

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Originally Posted By: Dawg Citizen
Who starts at QB now, Taylor or Mayfield? Are the Browns going to let their #1 overall pick sit for a year?


As of now, Tyrod Taylor is the starting QB of the Browns. That's the plan.


If Baker shows up and clearly shows he should be the guy, it'll be hard to look the other way. But I don't think there's an open competition. Just a backup who will be playing his butt off, and probably regards most everything as a competition


So, I'd guess it's all up to Baker and if he can prove that he should be the guy. Until then, we've got Tyrod


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I hope Taylor starts the next 6-7 years for us. That means we found our qb.


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I think it has to be Tyrod Taylor to start the season. If it's not then everyone has egg on their face.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
I think it has to be Tyrod Taylor to start the season. If it's not then everyone has egg on their face.


I don't think so. If Baker Mayfield can show us some serious promise and beat out Tyrod, that means we made the right pick at 1.

How would that be egg on our face? I can care less about a third round pick if we found our franchise QB. I mean, look at some of our past 2nd and 3rd round picks, Travis Wilson, David Veikune, Chaun Thompson, Brian Robiskie.

Not a big deal at all.

Tyrod is the planned starter. If Baker surprises, what's not to like?


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No question: Tyrod Taylor starts all season.

If he gets injured, then Drew Stanton fills the void.
Baker Mayfield gets a full year of sitting and learning without pressure.


Browns is the Browns

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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Originally Posted By: PeteyDangerous
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I think it has to be Tyrod Taylor to start the season. If it's not then everyone has egg on their face.


I don't think so. If Baker Mayfield can show us some serious promise and beat out Tyrod, that means we made the right pick at 1.


I learned my lesson with DeShone Kizer. Being the best player and being ready to play are two different things. It has nothing to do with the pick.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15

I learned my lesson with DeShone Kizer. Being the best player and being ready to play are two different things. It has nothing to do with the pick.


This.
A thousand times, this.

In his first preseason, everyone was saying how great Kizer was and I was trying to tell folks "yeah, he's the best QB we have, but he's NOT ready".


Nobody has any patience any more. Everyone has the attention span of a Tweet and if things aren't happening in front of their eyes, they feel there is nothing happening and no progress being made.


Browns is the Browns

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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Pretty sure by the 3rd or 4th week of losing, everyone will be upset, and cue the "We have to play Mayfield to see what we have"

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If it'll be Hue Jackson's call, it will be Tyrod. I don't imagine a scenario, when his job is on the line, that he'll go with a rookie over a veteran.


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I hate the fact that this has now become a question (and will be a question for the next 9 months). Drafting Baker instead of Darnold brings added pressure to start him sooner.

IMO, sit Mayfield forever if possible.


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Tyrod will easily win the starting gig and he will have earned it too. He is a seasoned vet capable of winning several games for us. I actually think it will be tough on Mayfield to unseat him even in the second year. I mean Tyrod is a pro's pro and is going to light it up this year if Gordon is still playing at the end of the year.


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Hue reiterated Tyrod is the starter so this thread is pretty mute. And that's the way it should be.

Truthfully I'm beyond okay if Tyrod plays the entire year... if he's playing at an average or above level.

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Originally Posted By: Dawg_LB
Hue reiterated Tyrod is the starter so this thread is pretty mute. And that's the way it should be.

Truthfully I'm beyond okay if Tyrod plays the entire year... if he's playing at an average or above level.
which brings the questions: what if he's playing poorly? what if we're losing? what if fans are clamoring?


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Without question I believe Tyrod Taylor is the starting QB going into camp and the preseason, and the only way he loses the job is if he gets hurt or is just down right awful. Even his being awful, I think Mayfield would need to look really good as well to take over the spot. I think with Hue's job on the line, he's going to want to go with a veteran guy early. Mayfield going #1 overall does not make any difference. His draft positioning does not necessarily mean he's NFL ready either.

If we get to a point in the season where we're 3-8 or something, then I can see Mayfield getting the nod and starting the rest of the way just to get some of those rookie bumps out of the way. This is also assuming Tyrod doesn't get hurt, then Baker will obviously be playing.

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If TT goes down Stanton is next man up.


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Remember,TT only had Shaddy to count on last few years, Watkins was always hurt, and Clay was up and down. With Josh, Landry and Hyde that's a heck of an upgrade .

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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
No question: Tyrod Taylor starts all season.

If he gets injured, then Drew Stanton fills the void.
Baker Mayfield gets a full year of sitting and learning without pressure.



Exactly what Mayfield said at his presser. He sat a year at Oklahoma and he said it was the best thing in his development. Got to build himself up and work on weaknesses.

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If TT goes down Stanton is next man up.


Yep, my thoughts exactly. Play Baker only when he's ready to play.

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Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt
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No question: Tyrod Taylor starts all season.

If he gets injured, then Drew Stanton fills the void.
Baker Mayfield gets a full year of sitting and learning without pressure.



Exactly what Mayfield said at his presser. He sat a year at Oklahoma and he said it was the best thing in his development. Got to build himself up and work on weaknesses.


Can we hit him with some HGH and a bone stretcher? Stitch his mouth closed for a year?


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It should of been Sam Darnold. I am still in shock but am not surprised he wasn't selected.

The Jets are laughing their a$$es off at what we GAVE them.

FUTILITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It's all an unknown as to who got what. I find it funny that so many love to wallow in their pity and pretend their life's happiness depends on the success or failure of the Cleveland Browns. Some people need hobbies or girlfriend or enemas or something.

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Originally Posted By: Dawg Citizen
Who starts at QB now, Taylor or Mayfield? Are the Browns going to let their #1 overall pick sit for a year?




Is this to stir the pot?


It was already stated that TT was the starting QB of the Browns no matter who we selected. There will be no camp competition.

I don't know that this means he starts the whole year or not. I guess that depends on how we are doing and how Baker is absorbing.


As far as I am concerned, Baker is the 3rd QB in line. If TT plays poorly or gets hurt, Stanton is the next man up, at least early in to the season.

My hope is we can get some nice leads late and get the kid some game reps in mop up time.

Unfortunately, this isn't like baseball when it comes to playing rookies. I always admired Bobby Cox. Whenever a kid got promoted to the big team, he made it a point to get him in a game as quickly as possible, be it a pitcher or otherwise. In baseball you have enough games every week where you are in a comfortable position or far enough behind it didn't matter to let the kid pinch hit and play a position for a inning, or stick the kid on the hill for a inning. He always said that is how great careers start and he wanted to be able to share that with the player and his parents.


Bobby Cox was a great manager.


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Originally Posted By: SuperBrown
It should of been Sam Darnold. I am still in shock but am not surprised he wasn't selected.

The Jets are laughing their a$$es off at what we GAVE them.

FUTILITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


People said the same when we passed on Mark Sanchez.

Time will tell.

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I love the Baker Mayfield pick. He was the best QB in this draft.



I know some people feel chapped....too bad.


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Why would we think otherwise? Let us not gin up a QB controversy where none exists.


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Tyrod will start at least 4 games. I suspect he'll start 10 or 12 unless we're in the playoff hunt.

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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
Originally Posted By: cfrs15

I learned my lesson with DeShone Kizer. Being the best player and being ready to play are two different things. It has nothing to do with the pick.


This.
A thousand times, this.

In his first preseason, everyone was saying how great Kizer was and I was trying to tell folks "yeah, he's the best QB we have, but he's NOT ready".


Nobody has any patience any more. Everyone has the attention span of a Tweet and if things aren't happening in front of their eyes, they feel there is nothing happening and no progress being made.


I agree 100 %. Let him sit for a year, it will only help him. Give him playing time down the stretch of he's ready for it and if we're out of the playoff chase (I think we will surprise this season but then I say that every freaking year).


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Originally Posted By: lampdogg
Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
Originally Posted By: cfrs15

I learned my lesson with DeShone Kizer. Being the best player and being ready to play are two different things. It has nothing to do with the pick.


This.
A thousand times, this.

In his first preseason, everyone was saying how great Kizer was and I was trying to tell folks "yeah, he's the best QB we have, but he's NOT ready".


Nobody has any patience any more. Everyone has the attention span of a Tweet and if things aren't happening in front of their eyes, they feel there is nothing happening and no progress being made.


I agree 100 %. Let him sit for a year, it will only help him. Give him playing time down the stretch of he's ready for it and if we're out of the playoff chase (I think we will surprise this season but then I say that every freaking year).


eh.. we have a new right tackle that was a backup on another team... a left tackle that was a below average right tackle.. he will be playing soon enough..


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Originally Posted By: pblack18707
eh.. we have a new right tackle that was a backup on another team... a left tackle that was a below average right tackle.. he will be playing soon enough..


That's my type of optimism


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I'm hoping Taylor starts for the next two years... no way in hell he plays this year... Taylor and hogan should keep mayfield on the bench for at least a year...


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If Baker Mayfield even takes ONE snap in a regular season game before September of 2019 then the whole plan is a complete failure. Mayfield is NOT ready under any circumstances to start no matter what he says.

If the Browns are even sniffing .500 Mayfield shouldn't even be considered, infact he should be red shirted and not play at all this year.

If Taylor gets hurt, you sign a guy off the street and start him instead...this is exactly what Bellichik and Parcells would do.

We MUST stop this nonsense of starting rookie QB...will this fanbase ever learn...how many QB must we destroy...I hate the Mayfield pick, but he has no chance of succeeding here if we throw him to the wolves day one

Lets be realistic here, Mayfield footwork is atrocious, he has very little experience playing under center, he relies too much on athletic ability, tends to hold the ball too long, he is too slow to scramble in the NFL like he did in college...Mayfield ran a 4.84 40 yard, Russell Wilson ran a 4.55 40, Wilson is significantly faster then Baker, Baker will struggle trying to run in the NFL

Baker needs time to LEARN howo to throw from the pocket, because for him to be successful, 80-85% of this throws gotta be from the pocket, he does not have Russell Wilson type of athletic ability, he will get killed trying to run like he did in college, the kid needs a year to be coached up by Haley.

I hate the Mayfield pick, but he is a Brown now, he needs to be at least given a chance to succeed, and putting him out there this year is the worst thing we can do, look what it did to Kizer, and the 20+ other Browns Qb over the year....at some point we gotta look in the mirror, not all of those QB were busts, we ruined them...had half those guys been drafted by a different tea, then the Browns, they probably would have worked out.

No matter what, this needs to be Tyrods team this year if we want any chance at all of Baker not being a bust.

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Originally Posted By: jaybird
I'm hoping Taylor starts for the next two years... no way in hell he plays this year... Taylor and hogan should keep mayfield on the bench for at least a year...


I think you mean Stanton, since Hogan was traded. Also, we only have Taylor for one year.


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Hue reiterated Tyrod is the starter so this thread is pretty mute. And that's the way it should be.


you do realize that Tim couch has been the only starter to play 16 games....that was 01..

1999 Tim Couch (14) / Ty Detmer (2)
2000 Doug Pederson (8) / Tim Couch (7) / Spergon Wynn (1)
2001 Tim Couch (16)
2002 Tim Couch (14) / Kelly Holcomb (2)
2003 Kelly Holcomb (8) / Tim Couch (8)
2004 Jeff Garcia (10) / Kelly Holcomb (2) / Luke McCown (4)
2005 Trent Dilfer (11) / Charlie Frye (5)
2006 Charlie Frye (13) / Derek Anderson (3)
2007 Derek Anderson (15) / Charlie Frye (1)
2008 Derek Anderson (9) / Brady Quinn (3) / Ken Dorsey (3) / Bruce Gradkowski (1)
2009 Brady Quinn (9) / Derek Anderson (7)
2010 Colt McCoy (8) / Jake Delhomme (4) / Seneca Wallace (4)
2011 Colt McCoy (13) / Seneca Wallace (3)
2012 Brandon Weeden (15) / Thad Lewis (1)
2013 Jason Campbell (8) / Brandon Weeden (5) / Brian Hoyer (3)
2014 Brian Hoyer (13) / Johnny Manziel (2)/ Connor Shaw (1)
2015 Josh McCown (8) / Johnny Manziel (6) / Austin Davis (2)
2016 Robert Griffin III (5) / Josh McCown (3) / Cody Kessler (8)
2017 DeShone Kizer (15) / Kevin Hogan (1)


And coming from Hue...?

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Originally Posted By: Dawg Citizen
Who starts at QB now, Taylor or Mayfield? Are the Browns going to let their #1 overall pick sit for a year?


I damn sure hope so! Tired of watching guys get thrown into a wood chipper cause they're not ready and we have to start aaaallll over again!


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If there is one thing this team has experience in, it's how to work the Ole first year quarterback thing! thumbsup


Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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Mayfield will start game #1. I don't have any doubt about this.

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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
Everyone has the attention span of a Tweet

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Originally Posted By: devicedawg
Mayfield will start game #1. I don't have any doubt about this.
I really, really hope not


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