DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Roster Breakdown Continued (with PFF Grades)

I can see this take and would actually agree. Kindred came a long way his first year, while Peppers was still Peppers. I'm not saying Peppers was terrible, but I would never give up on him after one year.

Sooo... as far as PFF grades (for what they are worth) concerning Peppers (who seems to have taken over the general thread):

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-dont-panic-top-10-players-who-can-bounce-back-in-year-2

8. Jabrill Peppers, S, Cleveland Browns

2017 overall grade: 45.5

Coming out of Michigan, depending on who you asked and at what time of day, you’d hear a different projection on what position Jabrill Peppers would play as a pro. One of the positions you wouldn’t often hear was “true free safety” – and ultimately that’s right where Peppers ended up for the Browns. Peppers lined up as a free safety for Cleveland on 88.2 percent of his defensive snaps through the first 15 weeks of 2017 – he spent just 3.0 percent of his snaps at free safety for Michigan in 2016 – and the results were ugly, as he finished just three games over that stretch with an overall grade of at least 70.0. An injury to Derrick Kindred late in the year caused the Browns to shake things up and in Weeks 16 and 17, Peppers played more of the swiss-army knife role he was accustomed to in college, spending just 32.1 percent of his snaps at free safety during that two week sample. Peppers posted an 81.5 overall grade in Week 17 against the Steelers and in Week 16 he posted his best run-defense grade of the year (83.0). If Cleveland can keep Peppers closer to the line of scrimmage in 2018 his grade will almost certainly be better in Year 2.

Regarding this PFF grade, its predicated on productive stats n reps.

Last year he was utilized in a position of passiveness. 30 yards off the ball n hardly any chance to make a differenc let alone a positive stat to up the PFF grade.

jmho

Clip of Gregg Williams discussing how he used Peppers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEl1C8Ab8mQ

People complain about how poorly Peppers played FS but he was doing what he was told to do by Williams; play very deep and discourage the QB from throwing deep. We simply don't know how good he could have been if he had been tasked with playing at normal depth and given more normal FS responsibilities.

Well...this year's guys are already taken so from the next year's crop I'd say either DT or DE (seriously though, it's going to be a crazy D-line year).

Or are you just saying "what position still needs improved the most."