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Thoughts and Prayers ...Once again the only thing that has been done to protect our kids in schools is for the GOP sheep to hand out thoughts and prayers.

The GOP sheep will say once again. "Now is not the time to talk about gun control. Thoughts and prayers are needed."


Pfft




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Law enforcement responded to a high school in Texas after an active shooter was reported on campus Friday.

Around 8 a.m. local time, reports began to surface on social media that someone had opened fire at Santa Fe High School in Santa Fe, which is about 35 miles south of Houston. According to the Texas Education Agency, the high school enrollment is about 1,400 students.

Houston Chronicle and KHOU have been told by law enforcement sources that there are "multiple fatalities."


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Now is the time about the NUT behind the TOOL!

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Go away troll ... if that's all you have to add..thank you

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It happened again!

edit: shocked and appalled.

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was it a gun that walked in, or a guy with a gun? cause all you ever post about is guns, nothing about the actual criminals committing the acts. almost like you don't really care about what happened, just so you can spread your propaganda and hate.

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It happened again!



And still the GOP sheep will goose step behind the NRA calling for more guns in schools.


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Austin bombing, Boston bombing, Twin towers, knifing in UK France, mass shooting in Australia,school shootings, people killed by running over with motor vehicles...common denominator "the nut behind the tool".

When you're done trolling and really want to stop the madness we can discuss.

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How about if we stop destroying the American family, and help kids develop inter-personal relationships? This is as, if not more, important. How about if we bring kids back to church, and tom the Bible, to help give them a moral base? How about if we take away kids' phones, and allow them to use them sparingly, instead of living their whole lives online, and actually encourage them to make friends IRL, instead of counting Facebook friends they will likely never meet. (outside of a relatively few) Huge acts of violence are celebrated on TV, in the movies, and in video games. How about we regulate what kids can watch and play?

Parents also have to stop being afraid to discipline their kids, and to show them how discipline can help them as they become adults.

Man, there are so many things that should come before trying to seize guns from law abiding citizens. Heck, convicted felons are not allowed to own guns. I guess that stops them, right? When all of the guns are taken away, and kids start running people over instead, do we start seizing cars? What if a kid starts using knives instead of guns? The tool used to cause violence is not the root cause of violence.

Guns can be used as a tool for violence; they are not the cause of violence. It reminds me of the way Pseudoephedrine is restricted at the drug store. It can be used to help create Meth, so those who just want to be able to breathe have to jump through hoops to buy some. I was actually told, after like my 3rd package purchased, in May last year, that I couldn't buy any more. I look around, and I don't heard of any great decline in Meth use, but now Fentanyl is on the rise. (and is hundreds to thousands of times more deadly) There are actually police officers who have been hospitalized and/or have died just by touching street Fentanyl. Man, restricting that Pseudoephedrine sure did stop drug use. (at least among those who use it legally, anyway)

Heck, pot was illegal for decades. (if not longer) I guess that people just didn't smoke it, because they couldn't find it. crazy

When has restricting law abiding people, or those who have no desire to cause other people harm, ever restricted and/or stopped those who act in a criminal manner?


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How about if we stop destroying the American family, and help kids develop inter-personal relationships? This is as, if not more, important. How about if we bring kids back to church, and tom the Bible, to help give them a moral base? How about if we take away kids' phones, and allow them to use them sparingly, instead of living their whole lives online, and actually encourage them to make friends IRL, instead of counting Facebook friends they will likely never meet. (outside of a relatively few) Huge acts of violence are celebrated on TV, in the movies, and in video games. How about we regulate what kids can watch and play?

Parents also have to stop being afraid to discipline their kids, and to show them how discipline can help them as they become adults.

Man, there are so many things that should come before trying to seize guns from law abiding citizens. Heck, convicted felons are not allowed to own guns. I guess that stops them, right? When all of the guns are taken away, and kids start running people over instead, do we start seizing cars? What if a kid starts using knives instead of guns? The tool used to cause violence is not the root cause of violence.

Guns can be used as a tool for violence; they are not the cause of violence. It reminds me of the way Pseudoephedrine is restricted at the drug store. It can be used to help create Meth, so those who just want to be able to breathe have to jump through hoops to buy some. I was actually told, after like my 3rd package purchased, in May last year, that I couldn't buy any more. I look around, and I don't heard of any great decline in Meth use, but now Fentanyl is on the rise. (and is hundreds to thousands of times more deadly) There are actually police officers who have been hospitalized and/or have died just by touching street Fentanyl. Man, restricting that Pseudoephedrine sure did stop drug use. (at least among those who use it legally, anyway)

Heck, pot was illegal for decades. (if not longer) I guess that people just didn't smoke it, because they couldn't find it. crazy

When has restricting law abiding people, or those who have no desire to cause other people harm, ever restricted and/or stopped those who act in a criminal manner?


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Very sad.

Apparently no armed guards to stop this shooter like in the other recent cases.

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I'm getting to the point that I truly believe that some libs here are shamefully looking forward to the school shootings just to push their false narrative against the Trump administration and the GOP, While their elected liberal congressional leader is defending the honor MS 13 the deadliest gangs from Latin America

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There is a live news conference with the local law enforcement officer on National NBC news.

The point is the Questions and answers are in Spanish language, between the reporters and law enforcement.

So there's that.

Get information? Better Habla Espanol.

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good post and I agree Ytown, but taking guns away from law abiding citizens isn't gun control. That is an outright ban on guns.

Restricting guns from mental patients and other people who have been violent in the past, and federal registration for all guns to law abiding citizens are forms of gun control


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This is why I don't generally post in this forum anymore. I did see this thread about this awful event, and the focus was immediately not on how to keep kids from violence, but how to take away guns. Then, of course, peoples' prayers were ridiculed. It's no wonder we can't make progress in solving these problems.


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Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
good post and I agree Ytown, but taking guns away from law abiding citizens isn't gun control. That is an outright ban on guns.

Restricting guns from mental patients and other people who have been violent in the past, and federal registration for all guns to law abiding citizens are forms of gun control


It's in place already. How do you register the criminals guns?

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This is why I don't generally post in this forum anymore. I did see this thread about this awful event, and the focus was immediately not on how to keep kids from violence, but how to take away guns. Then, of course, peoples' prayers were ridiculed. It's no wonder we can't make progress in solving these problems.


I hear you Ytown but thoughts and prayers are all that the GOP/NRA/Trump admin has given any of the school victims and their families. It's the lip service until the next time. So it's always "Now is not the time to discuss gun control" It's never the time, because nobody in the GOP/NRA/Trump Admin want to discuss it in fear of losing NRA money. Deplorable


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Then you have law abiding citizens on a list, and criminals still own guns without identification. Regulations of this type only restrict law abiding citizens.

It is easy to buy a gun, if you want to, even in places in this country where guns have been all but outlawed. In DC, handguns are all but illegal. The only way you can legally have a handgun is if you had registered it with the police before 1976. (or some such nonsense) How many deaths from handguns are there is DC each and every year? How many are teenagers? Why isn't gun control working there?


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this is a law already, actually. so why are the shootings still happening. If this will prevent them, this should not have happened. do you even know what the laws on guns are? I don't think so.

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good post and I agree Ytown, but taking guns away from law abiding citizens isn't gun control. That is an outright ban on guns.

Restricting guns from mental patients and other people who have been violent in the past, and federal registration for all guns to law abiding citizens are forms of gun control


It's in place already. How do you register the criminals guns?


Go away and pee on something else.


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good post and I agree Ytown, but taking guns away from law abiding citizens isn't gun control. That is an outright ban on guns.

Restricting guns from mental patients and other people who have been violent in the past, and federal registration for all guns to law abiding citizens are forms of gun control


It's in place already. How do you register the criminals guns?


Go away and pee on something else.


Now there is some really enlightening discussion for ya!

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good post and I agree Ytown, but taking guns away from law abiding citizens isn't gun control. That is an outright ban on guns.

Restricting guns from mental patients and other people who have been violent in the past, and federal registration for all guns to law abiding citizens are forms of gun control


It's in place already. How do you register the criminals guns?


Go away and pee on something else.


It's a legitimate question, not "peeing" on anything. How does restricting law abiding citizens limit criminal behavior? When has this worked?


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Restricting guns from mental patients and other people who have been violent in the past
this is a law already, actually. so why are the shootings still happening. If this will prevent them, this should not have happened. do you even know what the laws on guns are? I don't think so.


What federal laws are on the books? State by state laws right? And many states have nothing for private sales.


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good post and I agree Ytown, but taking guns away from law abiding citizens isn't gun control. That is an outright ban on guns.

Restricting guns from mental patients and other people who have been violent in the past, and federal registration for all guns to law abiding citizens are forms of gun control


It's in place already. How do you register the criminals guns?


Go away and pee on something else.


Nope I sad the same thing ytown ans willy said yet you get snarky with me. rolleyes

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Restricting guns from mental patients and other people who have been violent in the past
this is a law already, actually. so why are the shootings still happening. If this will prevent them, this should not have happened. do you even know what the laws on guns are? I don't think so.


What federal laws are on the books? State by state laws right? And many states have nothing for private sales.
Federal Law

Under 18 U.S.C. § 922(d), it is unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person “has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution.”


Once again, your ignorance on any topic of that of epic proportions.

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Restricting guns from mental patients and other people who have been violent in the past
this is a law already, actually. so why are the shootings still happening. If this will prevent them, this should not have happened. do you even know what the laws on guns are? I don't think so.


What federal laws are on the books? State by state laws right? And many states have nothing for private sales.
Federal Law

Under 18 U.S.C. § 922(d), it is unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person “has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution.”


Once again, your ignorance on any topic of that of epic proportions.
Texas:

Tex. Gov’t Code § 411.172.

A person is eligible for a license to carry a handgun if the person:

Is not a chemically dependent person; and

Is not incapable of exercising sound judgment with respect to the proper use and storage of a handgun.

A person is incapable of exercising sound judgment with respect to the proper use and storage of a handgun if the person:

Has been diagnosed by a licensed physician as suffering from a psychiatric disorder or condition that causes or is likely to cause substantial impairment in judgment, mood, perception, impulse control, or intellectual ability;

Suffers from a psychiatric disorder or condition that:

Is in remission but is reasonably likely to redevelop at a future time; or

Requires continuous medical treatment to avoid redevelopment.

Has been diagnosed by a licensed physician, determined by a review board or similar authority, or declared by a court to be incompetent to manage the person’s own affairs; or

Has entered in a criminal proceeding a plea of not guilty by reason of insanity.

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good post and I agree Ytown, but taking guns away from law abiding citizens isn't gun control. That is an outright ban on guns.

Restricting guns from mental patients and other people who have been violent in the past, and federal registration for all guns to law abiding citizens are forms of gun control


It's in place already. How do you register the criminals guns?


Go away and pee on something else.


It's a legitimate question, not "peeing" on anything. How does restricting law abiding citizens limit criminal behavior? When has this worked?


So if you had to register your existing gun to get a federal license how is that restricting other law abiding citizens guns?


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That's a state law.


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They just had a mass shooting in Australia they had buy back strict laws, how did the mass shooting happen?

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Restricting guns from mental patients and other people who have been violent in the past
this is a law already, actually. so why are the shootings still happening. If this will prevent them, this should not have happened. do you even know what the laws on guns are? I don't think so.


What federal laws are on the books? State by state laws right? And many states have nothing for private sales.
Here is the law from the ATF, a FEDERAL law. Already in place. So again, why do these keep happening if the bad guys are not allowed to get the guns by law?

https://www.atf.gov/file/58791/download

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That's a state law.


Federal Law

Under 18 U.S.C. § 922(d), it is unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person “has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution.”

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good post and I agree Ytown, but taking guns away from law abiding citizens isn't gun control. That is an outright ban on guns.

Restricting guns from mental patients and other people who have been violent in the past, and federal registration for all guns to law abiding citizens are forms of gun control


It's in place already. How do you register the criminals guns?


Go away and pee on something else.


It's a legitimate question, not "peeing" on anything. How does restricting law abiding citizens limit criminal behavior? When has this worked?


So if you had to register your existing gun to get a federal license how is that restricting other law abiding citizens guns?


It's an easy step to go from registering law abiding citizens, to taking their guns away. Look at the steps taken by DC, going from gun registration, to removing law abiding citizens' rights to own handguns. Like it or not, the one thing that gun registration does is give the government a list of law abiding gun owners. It does nothing to control criminal gun owners. (or thieves)


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Thoughts and Prayers ...Once again the only thing that has been done to protect our kids in schools is for the GOP sheep to hand out thoughts and prayers.

The GOP sheep will say once again. "Now is not the time to talk about gun control. Thoughts and prayers are needed."


Pfft




http://www.wcvb.com/article/police-respo...-texas/20742622


Law enforcement responded to a high school in Texas after an active shooter was reported on campus Friday.

Around 8 a.m. local time, reports began to surface on social media that someone had opened fire at Santa Fe High School in Santa Fe, which is about 35 miles south of Houston. According to the Texas Education Agency, the high school enrollment is about 1,400 students.

Houston Chronicle and KHOU have been told by law enforcement sources that there are "multiple fatalities."





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Originally Posted By: THROW LONG
It happened again!

edit: shocked and appalled.



I'm pretty sure this time will be the last.
I mean... with all those thoughts and prayers flying about.
Sooner or later, one of them has to work.

right?


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It happened again!

edit: shocked and appalled.



I'm pretty sure this time will be the last.
I mean... with all those thoughts and prayers flying about.
Sooner or later, one of them has to work.

right?


I am shocked to find myself reading about another mass shooting in a school after all the discussion you and DC had about solutions and mental hospitals and new laws.

All I asked for was armed guards and you guys said it would emotionally damage the children. Well ask the kids about their emotions now.

SHAME!

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It happened again!

edit: shocked and appalled.



I'm pretty sure this time will be the last.
I mean... with all those thoughts and prayers flying about.
Sooner or later, one of them has to work.

right?


I am shocked to find myself reading about another mass shooting in a school after all the discussion you and DC had about solutions and mental hospitals and new laws.

All I asked for was armed guards and you guys said it would emotionally damage the children. Well ask the kids about their emotions now.

SHAME!
weird, the left hates the fact that we sell guns to American citizens, but has no problem with the government selling guns to drug cartels or terrorist.

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never said that.
not even once.
go and check.


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Yeah this will be the last one for sure ...this week. There is nothing else that can be done to prevent these attacks so hopes and prayers it is .

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Also weird how the left won't even consider armed guards in the schools when the last couple of shootings were stopped by armed guards. Casualties limited. It works!

Now we have another case of no armed guards and everybody dies until police arrive!

SHAME!

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Again, I'm not a Gun guy (car guy here), have never felt the need for a gun personally. Don't care who owns one as long as they are responsible people.

The question then becomes, how do we identify those that aren't responsible?

Solve that, then you got something real to start with.

But if you ask the NRA, they don't want pretty much anything to stand in the way of Gun Ownership.

That stance is idiotic.

I believe this with all my might, if the NRA, with all it's vast knowledge of guns, would step up and offer REAL ideas, it would be a help. But they won't. They just say,

"THEY WANT OUR GUNS, THEY ARE COMING FOR OUR GUNS!"

There are a few folks that want to take all guns away, but the vast majority of Americans don't want that. They just want guns out of the hands of people that shouldn't have them.

I really wish I had an answer...


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