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I would still want want be born. I would fight my way thought anything life threw at me. Just as I have always done, and am doing now. Yet you would deny me and anybody else who wanted to live our rights. That's like me murdering you when your happy with your life and saying "tough crap" I don't think you had the right to live.

Sorry to hear about that, GM. I'll let 40 answer this for you.


"Scientific Fact: If cells can reproduce, it's alive."

Neither you or I can do anything to make a difference in a miscarriage. Your smarter than that bro

Miscarriages are a byproduct of science, they're not done by fate.

It saddens me when I hear anyone saying that baby is a choice, and that extinguishing the life of the unborn is no big deal.

This is the kind of thing our culture allows. Have all the sex you want ... heck, you don't even have to know the person you are having sex with. Don't worry about being responsible and using birth control. Who cares? If you get pregnant you can just end the poor baby's life. After all, that's your right as its mother.

Man, if someone wrote this kind of stuff as a work of fiction, people would be appalled.

We wonder why people think it's OK to kill other people ..... it starts with the way we treat our least helpless.

Scientific fact cancer cells are not babies. That was a really sad reach bro, your better than that. Your smart, and have a good heart, no need to climb into the bottom end of the gene pool.

BTW thanks for worrying about me. But I have enough faith to believe I will be just fine after I leave this world. I also continue to pray that you will be as well

wE HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION... i AM COOL WITH THAT BRO

They're a collection of animal cells. I was agreeing with 40 that cells are alive. Especially for those with cancer.

I wish I could say the same. I'm very disappointed, GM. If you want to call me a murderer, go ahead. But don't pat me on the back like a friend after you do it. That is sociopathic behavior.

That's OK I am very disappointed in you as well. However it does not mean I don't still love and respect you bro. It means we disagree on this subject. That's fine I don't even agree with my wife on every subject, and I would take a bullet for her 7 days a week.

I do however consider anybody who murders their baby as a murderer of their own child.

That's cool, bro. I'm glad you're able to have meaningful friendships with people you consider murderers. That's very spiritual of you, especially as you frame it as a disagreement on a subject.

To me, life means too much to throw words like "murderer" out there. And if I did catch wind that a killer was around me, well let's just say 1 = 2-1. Trust me, murder is not something to take lightly.

To me life means to much to ignore what I believe to be murder.


Me either bro. That's why I am so adamant on this message board, and in my every day life. I am 110 percent against abortion, BUT I have enough compassion to get along with those who disagree with me.

i tired of the fake ass anti-abortion crowd in this country.

WE NEED TO PROTECT LIFE!!

*another mass shooting kills the very kids they want to protect*


uhh...uhh... DONT TAKE MY GUNS!!

Yeah just don't give them a chance to live at all is better.

thats a woman's choice to decide.

unless of course you think you're superior to women. how many kids popped out of your vagina, vambo?

If living in a "Trumplodyte Utopia" is the alternative, you are probably right.

Why are you staying here if you truly feel that way? I'm sure Mexico or North Korea would be more suitable for your mindset.

The thing is that if women have a choice, men should as well.

If a man doesn't want to be, or isn't ready to be a parent, he should be able to sign a paper and walk away.

The bottom line is men shouldn't be allowed to walk away and women shouldn't be allowed to murder their child.

I stay because THIS IS MY COUNTRY! Trumpian dystopia is a mere bleep on the radar of time and will be over in the blink of an eye. Then the real men of this country will put things back on track, just like taking out the trash to make the kitchen nice gain.

Maybe abortion just killed on of those"real men of this country will put things back on track and we'll never know!

Or another Hitler just died... We'll never know.

bro thats honestly a perspective that i have considered.

but you know damn well what kind of crapstorm that would be discussing that at the national level.

It was only mild hyperbole when I said all 14 year old boys should be given a vasectomy.

That's the sad part they were never given the chance.

But you want other countries people and kill American babies.

this country was literally founded by other countries people.

Trump is doing that...

U.S. Births Dip To 30-Year Low; Fertility Rate Sinks Further Below Replacement Level

May 17, 20189:42 AM ET

Updated at 8:48 p.m. ET

The birthrate fell for nearly every group of women of reproductive age in the U.S. in 2017, reflecting a sharp drop that saw the fewest newborns since 1987, according to a new report by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

There were 3,853,472 births in the U.S. in 2017 — "down 2 percent from 2016 and the lowest number in 30 years," the CDC said.

The general fertility rate sank to a record low of 60.2 births per 1,000 women between the ages of 15 and 44 — a 3 percent drop from 2016, the CDC said in its tally of provisional data for the year.

The results put the U.S. further away from a viable replacement rate – the standard for a generation being able to replicate its numbers.

"The rate has generally been below replacement since 1971," according to the report from CDC's National Center for Health Statistics.

The CDC calculates a "total fertility rate" by estimating how many babies a hypothetical group of 1,000 women would likely have over their lifetime. That measure now stands at 1,764.5 births per 1,000 women — a 3 percent drop from 2016. The replacement rate is 2,100 births per 1,000 women.

"The decline in the rate from 2016 to 2017 was the largest single-year decline since 2010," the CDC said.

The 2017 numbers also represent a 10-year fall from 2007, when the U.S. finally broke its post-World War baby boom record, with more than 4.3 million births.

Historically, the number of babies born in the U.S. has gradually risen since a sharp decline in the early 1970s. But that growth has been inconsistent, and over the same time frame, the birthrate has shown a general decline. The numbers are often subject to spikes and sudden dips, driven in large part by the country's economy, generational size and other factors.

The numbers seem to correspond with what the Census Bureau and others have been predicting for years: America's population growth will increasingly depend on immigrants, after decades in which the U.S. enjoyed a relatively high fertility rate when compared with that of other developed countries.

As The Associated Press reports, the U.S. birthrate is "still above countries such as Spain, Greece, Japan and Italy, but the gap appears to be closing."

Broken out by age, the 2017 birthrate fell for teenagers by 7 percent, to 18.8 births per 1,000, a record low. That figure is for women from 15 to 19 years old. For that same group, the birthrate has fallen by 55 percent since 2007 and by 70 percent since the most recent peak in 1991, the CDC said.

Women in their 40s were the only group to see a higher birthrate last year. Between the ages of 40 and 44, there were 11.6 births per 1,000 women, up 2 percent from 2016, according to the CDC's provisional data.

Birthrates fell by 4 percent both for women from 20 to 24 years old and for women of ages 25 to 29.

For women in their 30s — a group that had recently seen years of rising birthrates — the rate fell slightly in 2017. The drop included a 2 percent fall among women in their early 30s, a group that still maintained the highest birthrate of any age group, at 100.3 births per 1,000 women.

For the third year in a row, both the preterm birthrate and the low birth weight rate rose. The CDC said that the 9.93 percent rise in preterm births was due to late preterm births and that the early preterm rate had not changed from 2016's 2.75 percent.

Low birth weight — defined as newborns that weigh less than 5 pounds, 8 ounces — rose slightly above the highest level previously recorded, with 2017's 8.27 percent topping 2006's 8.26 percent.

The overall cesarean delivery rate nudged upward in 2017, rising to 32 percent from 31.9 percent – still below the all-time high of 32.9 percent in 2009.

The CDC also tallied births by race and cultural data (but it doesn't yet have the data to compare those figures to the overall populations).

Here's how some of the 2017 numbers were reported:

All Races and Origins: 3,853,472
White: 1,991,348
Hispanic: 897,518
Black: 560,560
Asian: 249,214
American Indian or Alaska Native: 29,878
Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander: 9,418

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/...to-a-record-low

But not killing it's own people over taking in other countries people big difference.

lol @ it's own people

uhhh, nothing is wrong with being transparent, Vambo

Zero.
Incels don't get the chance to pop babies.

I made a thread about the Incel movement on the alt-right and it was deleted.

Never made it to that thread.

Lets face it, most abortions are because the woman doesn't want the child because she can't afford it or she isn't ready to be a parent. Those same things can apply to men as well.

If we are serious about equal rights for all, then it needs to be discussed.

There is a vehicle for a man to walk away by signing off their parental rights. So all we would have to do is allow men to not be financially responsible if they want to execute this option.

So if I get this the way it sounds, your counter argument to abortion is deadbeat dads. GOP

If that is what you want to think, so be it. Maybe we need a slogan for women....Murdering moms...that has a ring to it.

It doesn’t.

Majority rules. Not majority *but*.

Would you like to kill your baby today? That is what should be asked. Not if you want to have an abortion.

I have no patience for people who can't keep their pants on and are fine murdering their children. Don't want kids? Keep your pants on and zipped up.

If you can't control your animal behavior then that's all you are. To be human is to rise above your animal instincts. Let animals live like animals and suffer the consequences of their actions.

The choice should be in the act of procreation not in if we murder helpless and innocent children.

The law is very specifically "Pro Choice" and has already been to the SCOTUS. So even though the law defines it as abortion, y'all call it 'murder' for dramatic effect. Then you just want ignore the laws you don't like and find underhanded weaselly ways to defund or remove their teeth.

Pro choice abortion rights are the law of the land, Libs won so get over it.

It ain't over till it's over, and it ain't over. Those of us against killing innocent babies may have lost the battle in 1973, but we are still fighting the war.

Yes. You won’t rest until you force women back into the back alleys, where they appearently belong, to have abortions performed in unsafe settings. That’ll make it all better. You’ll have won and your reign over women will be a sweet victory... as women die at the hands of untrained hacks. Or more unwanted children are born into the world. That’ll be a sweet sweet victorious day.
Awesome.

Having an abortion is horrible.

This should be extremely emphasized starting in junior high school.

But they should be legal.

In my opinion a neglected. unwanted child is worse than no life.

To me, the saddest thing in life is a very sick child. Mentally or physically.