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Which part?

Ok, nobody responded to (or refuted) your points.. so I will.


While I can agree that more parents have gone soft.. and I can agree that it is primarily liberal white suburban parents who led that charge.. it is not a problem for you to spank your kids if you want to


I don't see where that was the politicians.. doctors maybe trying to sell meds and appease parents who were looking for a quick fix rather than actually dealing with the problem, and schools, who have also basically been prevented from discipling a child (and I'm not just talking about spanking)


In both instances, some of it is deserved.. the problems are completely different but generalizations seem to be the problem.



Fair enough, that is a deflection...

definitely not my "hands" lol



bout time.



depends on who hear/sees. you can't even check your own child in public without somebody saying something about it nowadays depending on where you live and when it happens.



you mean the same politicians who willingly take money from big pharma, and don't do a damn thing about drugging kids, fake ADHD diagnosis and such?

these politicians through the last 20-30 years have just as much responsibility for the state of our society as our individual citizens and doctors do.



i disagree. why is it different? i'm not talking about the act so much as the response. every time some minority kid and/or adult does something, white people immediately point the finger at the parents and/or look at the adult as proof that the entire black or latino community is wrecked.

but little timmy does something, and RARELY does anybody talk about the parents, or go "there goes white people being violent again".

it goes right on back to what i always say on this board. white privilege is the ability to judge all minorities based on the actions of the few, while demanding that fellow white people be judged as individuals.

proof? take a stroll through those immigration threads. its pretty painful from my point of view.

i see some of you guys are trying to make it about liberals.....

i never disagreed with that, or even attempted to make it a political leaning thing.

yall did.

i repeat, yall did.

has the government, especially federal, not been dominated by white people?

does the opioid/pill crisis not affect mainly white people.

who are the majority of mass shooters? white.

so again, i didn't make anything up, which is why only you and Diam even said something. there's a reason why the others who got triggered didn't respond to any of those points, because they know what i said is the truth.

it's not racist to point out the truth. just like its not racist to point out that black people committed 50% of the crimes. what would be racist is me implying that white people are inherently prone to mass shootings. and i didn't do or imply that whatsoever, just like it would be racist to imply that blacks are inherently criminals.

but lets see, we have doctors (mainly white doctors) overprescribing medication to ALL kids (i wonder if its mostly white kids on ritalin. that would be an interesting stat to see), mainly white politicians who look the other way at big pharma doing this to our youth, mainly white kids shooting up schools and other places, and then BACK to mainly white politicians doing nothing to stop it, and mainly white people ending up hooked on prescription pills and other man made drugs.

then we got the mainly white people going "dont take my guns".

^^^ i just scrolled up through this post, and didn't see a thing i said that was wrong or racist in anyway, especially since im part white...except for the hand size.

So when you say "you can start with reversing the crap policies you white people made , you are including yourself in that group right?

It's impossible to vote liberal and then complain about lack of discipline and drugging your kids when it's the exact people you vote for who promotes those things.

Well okay, obviously it is possible.

Sure it’s possible.

I just did it. And all you can do is be mad about it.

Yep.

So what happens now?

Go spank your kids?

Mad? No, just ironic.

For what? They didn’t do anything wrong to warrant a spanking yet.

Ok Alanis morrisette.

Yeah, that's it. lmao

Glad you agree.

Why not? I'm just some white guy. Nothing I say is right.

I’m white too. So I dunno why you’re taking me seriously.

I don't really take anything in this forum very seriously. It's not healthy.

I take dank memes seriously.

Texas school shooter's father suspects bullying caused him to snap

A 17-year-old student accused of fatally shooting 10 people at a Texas high school should be seen as a "victim" because he may have recently been bullied, causing him to lash out, his father said.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/22/tex...im-to-snap.html

I have no doubt these kids are typically bullied. But there have been bullies since the beginning of time. They didn't lead to these shootings until recent memory.

Is that the bullying is now online, and more psychological than physical? Is the way we are raising our kids? Is there just an overall DE-sensitivity to violence and mayhem?

I've seen kids in stores I wanted to go up and grab by the hand and swat across the butt myself.. so I certainly wouldn't mind if their own parent did it.. but I know what you mean. I'm betting that around here, if you swatted your kids arse in a store for throwing a fit, you'd get a mixed reaction with the slight majority applauding you as you left the store.. and the slight minority thinking you were one of "those" parents... either way, being judged by other parents isn't the same as not being allowed to... parents have always judged other parents..


I disagree. Not a single politician (unless by coincidence they were also once a doctor) took the hippocratic oath regarding proper patient care and not a single politician has ever FORCED a doctor to put a kid on these meds.... If you want to have a conversation about politicians and big Pharma we can have that conversation.. but in the case of these over-medicated kids, the doctors do it because it's easy and the parents let them do it partially because they trust the doctors and partially because it's easy... I do not want politicians telling my doctor what he can or should prescribe or not prescribe...


Ok, the response is very different... in my time working with poor and inner city kids through the church I've come across all kinds of parents as I'm sure you can imagine.. about the only thing they have in common is they are all struggling to get by and many are single parents. Many are engaged with their kids, involved with their kids, working hard to give their kids whatever they can, want their kids in an environment where they can be impacted positively. I have a tremendous amount of respect for those parents... then it goes all the way to the other extreme of parents who don't even know where their kids are half the time, don't know if they went to school or what their grades are, generally just act like they don't care... From my experience (now my experience might not reflect an "average" because the kids I was involved with, somebody at least cared about them enough to get them hooked up with a church basketball program.. in many cases it was their friends though) but from my experience far more are caring and doing their best than the not.


Probably not to the extent of black kids but it does happen.... sadly a lot of these suburban parents aren't a whole lot better than the inner city ones... but there is this notion that if your kid is isolated in their room playing video games, searching and chatting God knows what on the internet, etc.. that somehow they are safer than the kids in the city out walking around the neighborhood... the parents are just as uninvolved, just as clueless as to what their kids are doing.. so in a lot of ways they are very similar, it's just that one takes place in a bad inner city hood and the other takes place in a $350K suburban home...

So, since your point is that the response is different, I'll agree with that and state that it's not fair based on what I've seen..


It comes down to HOW you say it... it's like the difference between telling your wife that dress doesn't flatter her figure.. and telling her it makes her look like a fat cow...


You want me to say white people don't have our share of problems? You want to say white people don't have the majority of the power to fix the problems? You want me to say white people problems don't get treated differently than other peoples problems? Is that what you want me to say? Nope, can't say that.

thanks for your response. will i disagree with some, maybe most, i do have some thoughts to ponder. so i appreciate it.

I’ll ask a question ...

Do u or your wife spank your kids? ...

Yes.

Ty ...

No, I don't have access as to how much people may owe the court (I assume you mean as in fines and such?), but believe me, I completely understand the racket system of the court system.

Let's tale traffic tickets.. in my county a speeding ticket or running a red light will net you a $50 fine. On top of that, you'll incur "court costs and fees" to the tune of an additional $188. Years ago I was in court when I saw a citizen who had been issued a ticket plead responsible in hopes of being cut a reduction on his ticket. The judge said "I used to be able to, but the State doesn't allow me to waive the court costs, but I'll waive the fine."

Once I realized that's the best deal they could possibly hope for, I started writing fewer tickets because $188 is steep and excessive to hit someone for rolling through a stop sign and it's the only car in the intersection. Personally, as long as your chill with me, and whatever you did didn't cause (or almost cause) an accident or hurt someone, I'll more than likely hook you up with a warning.

When it comes to DUI enforcement, I do believe it's needed and necessary. It literally keeps people from being killed. But once it hits the court system, it's a money making racket for the State. Assuming no one was hurt or killed, it's almost unheard of for a 1st time offender to get jail time (hell, you can get away with 2 or 3x before they lock you up). Instead, the court is going to get it's fees, it's fines, and all the "assessment" programs associated with plea deals will get their hundreds of $$$.

I don't know the total cost for someone getting busted for DUI, but those billboards like to quote around $10k. Even if you take a quarter of that, there is no other misdemeanor crime out there that I can think of that will penalize you for thousands of dollars.

As for who's in our jails... the Sheriff has been quoted as saying at any given time, 60-80% of the inmates have some varying degree of mental illness. We used to have a large mental hospital in the region that was set up for long term housing, but the previous Democrat Governor and the local left leaning city council decided to close it in hopes of selling the property to developers.

Most of those residents of the hospital got kicked to the streets. The politicians didn't give a rats ass about setting up any meaningful support system for them.

So then guess what happens when a population not equipped to cope well comes in to contact with society?

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