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Remember when Starbucks announced they were going to hire 10,000 refugees.

That one gave birth to the #BoycottStarbucks movement.

Next thing we knew they were hiring 8,000 Vets instead.

Live and Learn, or not.

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Starbucks at it again

Man, they really just cant catch a break..... tsktsk

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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
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Starbucks at it again

Man, they really just cant catch a break..... tsktsk


Maybe they need a day to train employees...

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J/C

Starbucks at it again

Man, they really just cant catch a break..... tsktsk


Maybe they need a day to train employees...
I don't know if that would work.. . . .

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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Originally Posted By: willitevachange
J/C

Starbucks at it again

Man, they really just cant catch a break..... tsktsk


Maybe they need a day to train employees...

they don't need a day, they can do it in an e-mail:

Dear employees, we know you are racist and we can't change that. But if you want a job, please stop calling the police on minorities who are just hanging out and stop writing racial slurs on the customers cups. Help us maintain our reputation by keeping your racism to yourself.

Thanks
Management


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Or better yet.... "Dear Employees, in the future never enforce a loitering policy unless it's to white people. It has become offensive to enforce such a long standing policy on any minority."


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Or better yet.... "Dear Employees, in the future never enforce a loitering policy unless it's to white people. It has become offensive to enforce such a long standing policy on any minority."






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Sometimes you get responses like yours when you tell the truth.


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Sometimes you get responses like yours when you tell the truth.


Yes my response was the truth. thumbsup

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Say what you will but we both know had they of asked two white guys to leave for not buying anything none of us would have heard a word about it. Fact.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Say what you will but we both know had they of asked two white guys to leave for not buying anything none of us would have heard a word about it. Fact.


Got a link to that FACT?

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Common sense. Try it on some time to see how it fits you.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Common sense. Try it on some time to see how it fits you.
my head hurts, are you and vambo arguing about agreeing on something..... rofl

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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Common sense. Try it on some time to see how it fits you.
my head hurts, are you and vambo arguing about agreeing on something..... rofl


Vambo is throwing apples trying to knock Pit off his fence.

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Extremism is bad. Very, very bad.....


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Does Starbucks associate with the NRA?


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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Common sense. Try it on some time to see how it fits you.
my head hurts, are you and vambo arguing about agreeing on something..... rofl


Its like they have some kind of weird role reversal going on..


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Does Starbucks associate with the NRA?


Not now but they soon will.

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Say what you will but we both know had they of asked two white guys to leave for not buying anything none of us would have heard a word about it. Fact.


Got a link to that FACT?


www.hypotheticalfacts.com


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Originally Posted By: DCDAWGFAN
Originally Posted By: Vambo
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Say what you will but we both know had they of asked two white guys to leave for not buying anything none of us would have heard a word about it. Fact.


Got a link to that FACT?


www.hypotheticalfacts.com



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I didn't like this policy when I first heard it, but Eve made some very good points and she changed my mind.

Her points about target the younger marketing audience is a very good one. I remember how Bud Light used the "Spuds MacKenzie" ad campaign back in the late 80s.

It was wildly popular w/the younger generation and Bud Light sales soared.

Additionally, a lot of teens adored Spuds and used to wear his likeness on t-shirts. When they became of legal drinking age, guess what beer they started drinking?

I can envision all kinds of teens hanging out at Starbucks. It will be a "place to be." New customers in a competitive and trendy market place. While they are still number one in their industry, they have been losing customers to some rivals.

Smart play on their part.

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It's a PR ploy and I seriously doubt it's going to have a major impact on their business one way or the other.. I could envision some inner city locations being negatively impacted because the potential number of homeless that could hear about it, especially on those really cold or really hot days.. but in general, I don't think this will be a blip on their revenue.... and Dunkin Donuts is better anyway.


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Howard Schultz, architect of modern Starbucks, to step down as executive chair and from the board

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/04/howard-s...-the-board.html

Turns his creation into a public toilet and then just walks away! rofl

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So Seattle City Council unanimously passed this head tax on large employers recently and Amazon stopped work on all of it's on-going expansion projects in town...

Last night the city council voted 7-2 to repeal the tax under pressure from Amazon, Starbucks, Vulcan (investment firm owned by the owner of Microsoft), and other firms...

It would be neat if we could actually have a conversation about it.. because I thought the head tax was excessive... but what they are trying to do is combat a very real problem that mid to large size cities have faced for many decades...

Commuters come in from the suburbs to work, the city has to provide police and fire, infrastructure, water and sewer, trash removal, etc.. all of the services required.. but they make next to nothing off of all of these folks because all of their tax money goes back to the suburbs, the counties where they own homes and do their shopping, etc...

So the cities fight for these mega-employers to bring jobs and some prestige to their region.. then when they get them, the companies become so entrenched that they hold the local governments by the short and curlies...

Seattle has an annual operating and capital budget of about $8 billion... Amazon's revenue last year was $136 billion... who do we think is going to win that fight?


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Originally Posted By: DCDAWGFAN

So the cities fight for these mega-employers to bring jobs and some prestige to their region.. then when they get them, the companies become so entrenched that they hold the local governments by the short and curlies...



Sounds like the cities are stupid when it comes to entering into a deal where they get what they wanted, prestige and mega jobs, but never considered their own costs and needs.

Trying to hose the corporations afterwards because you didn't plan, just doesn't fly. Corporations have the right to walk away once you break or change the deal. That is business.

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I actually LOVE it when the companies that lean left learn just who those crazy socialist are ..... more to come hopefully

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Yes, watching the crying Liberals become successful and then get eaten by other crying Liberals is somehow enjoyable.

Then to see the successful crying Liberals take a stand like Conservatives fighting against unfair treatment and too high taxes is too much fun!

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Seattle City Hall expanding to house homeless after 'head tax' flop

Seattle lawmakers, after being pressured by business leaders to repeal a controversial tax meant to address the city's homeless problem, have a brand new plan -- turn City Hall's lobby into a homeless shelter.

The Seattle City Council voted unanimously Monday to approve a plan expanding the number of housing and shelter units by 25 percent. That includes an extra 100 spaces at City Hall.
"When people have access to shelter, they’re more likely to take advantage of services like behavioral health, hygiene services, and employment support, and then move to permanent housing,” Mayor Jenny Durkan said in a statement. “We all have to contribute to solutions to this crisis, which is why we’re opening City Hall [to] more people each night."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/...d-tax-flop.html

Gee, kinda sounds like today's Starbucks.

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Then don't go to Starbucks or Seattle. I doubt they'll miss you.

At least someone actually gives a damn about homeless people. But I can see how that would offend you.


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You love to pretend the moral high ground as you post Viciously.
#TrueColors.

I don't even like Starbucks coffee. I do care about the homeless.

My whole reference throughout this thread is about bad management of government and bad management of business. All by the Left.

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Using public infrastructure to house the homeless is bad policy now?

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Using public infrastructure to house the homeless is bad policy now?


Filling the Statehouse with the homeless is a sign of poor management by Government. Should have been planned for long ago when they declared themselves to be Sanctuaries and flooded themselves with the Homeless, Drug addicts and criminals.

Have you seen San Francisco lately? The Homeless, Needles and human excrement in piles on their streets and sidewalks.
SHAME!

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Pretty sure Starbucks isnt very inner city.

But regardless, basically all fastfood joints dont care if you walk in and use the restroom.

Or gas stations, for that matter.


Can't speak for all cities, but I checked,,

I'm wondering how many Starbucks are actually in America's inner cities?

In the Cleveland area, there are NONE in the inner city. These are areas I'd generally desrcibe as low income, depressed areas.. Maybe blighted is a good word for those area.


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Have been to SF recently, and several times over the last 5 years. I have not seen these things you talk about. I have walked through the Tenderloin (most dangerous area of downtown) at night and have seen homeless people, but not in larger numbers than what I've seen in Cleveland or Pittsburgh, and those are not sanctuary cities.

When's the last time you've walked through downtown SF?


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You love to pretend the moral high ground as you post Viciously.
#TrueColors.

I don't even like Starbucks coffee. I do care about the homeless.

My whole reference throughout this thread is about bad management of government and bad management of business. All by the Left.



Yeah, I'm not some sniveling whiner. I've dealt with people like you my entire life. I'll face you head on and give you a taste of your own medicine.


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Originally Posted By: gage
Have been to SF recently, and several times over the last 5 years. I have not seen these things you talk about. I have walked through the Tenderloin (most dangerous area of downtown) at night and have seen homeless people, but not in larger numbers than what I've seen in Cleveland or Pittsburgh, and those are not sanctuary cities.

When's the last time you've walked through downtown SF?


As usual your facts are baloney...

San Francisco’s hotels are facing a serious problem. The city’s idyllic image of the Golden Gate bridge and grandiose views of the bay are being replaced by concerns about needles and feces littering the streets, homeless citizens sleeping on sidewalks or in Bay Area Rapid Transit stations and aggression toward visitors by people with untreated mental illness. Visitors are noticing and rethinking booking events and vacations at hotels around the city.

Within 153 blocks in downtown, there were over 300 piles of feces, 100 drug needles and trash on every block, a recent report by NBCBayArea revealed. Complaints of poor street conditions to 311 have skyrocketed in recent years. In 2016, 311, a city agency where visitors and residents can report issues or seek information about the city, received 44,000 complaints of encampments, human waste and needles, up from 6,300 complaints in 2011, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.

https://www.bisnow.com/san-francisco/new...ists-away-87174

Members of the BART board of directors were shocked on Thursday when they saw video obtained by KPIX that showed intravenous drug users blatantly shooting up in a corridor at Civic Center Station. Wilson Walker reports. (4-26-18)
(video on YouTube)

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Which fact, that I didn't see those things (I didn't), or that I saw homeless people and trash but not any worse than Pittsburgh/Cleveland (I did)? You claim to know what I saw, but were not there with me. Do not call me a liar when you were not with me.

Again: When's the last time you walked though downtown SF? Do you blindly trust everything you read on the internet?


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Which fact,


Exactly.

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Yes.

Maybe Gage would like some facts on Seattle now...

SEATTLE -- There are about 400 unauthorized homeless encampments in the city of Seattle. Since 2012, the number of complaints have skyrocketed.

Since January, residents have called the city's customer service line to complain about unsanctioned camping nearly 3,300 times.

Despite all those concerns, the city does not prioritize removal of camps based on how loudly a neighborhood complains.

The city has a criteria for removal and much of it comes down to how much trash and human feces accumulate and how close encampments are to moving cars.

http://q13fox.com/2018/05/04/complaints-...council-member/

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