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His extension was basically a reward for last season. It also includes incentives for games started/played this coming year, and has an "out" at year's end. (with, IIRC, a $1 million buyout on Foles's part)


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You are hinting about him not being a competitor yet the guy has a Super Bowl ring as the starting QB.


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I think the issue here is assuming the Browns wouldn't draft a QB @1 had we traded for Foles.

I look at it as if we'd have gotten Foles or Tyrod plus whatever QB we draft #1 which happened to be Mayfield. Mayfield would still have been the #1 pick by the Browns.

Some just like to read too much into things...


And personally I would rather have Taylor over Foles. Anyone who was about to retire and had to be persuaded to return gives me pause...

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Originally Posted By: brownieforlife
You are hinting about him not being a competitor yet the guy has a Super Bowl ring as the starting QB.


What's a Super Bowl Ring have to do with not wanting to compete for a starting job this year?


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I think the issue here is assuming the Browns wouldn't draft a QB @1 had we traded for Foles.

I look at it as if we'd have gotten Foles or Tyrod plus whatever QB we draft #1 which happened to be Mayfield. Mayfield would still have been the #1 pick by the Browns.

Some just like to read too much into things...


Agreed.

After Kirk Cousins, I didn't care what QB we ended up with, I wanted to drat a guy.


Last year, Mitch Trubisky was the top talent. I didn't think that he was a good enough QB to equal Myles Garrett. This year, I saw multiple talents that were better prospects than Mitch Trubisky. Rosen, Mayfield, and Darnold.

Since Tim Couch, we haven't had our choice at whichever QB we want (with a decent crop) till this year. I didn't want to miss on that opportunity.

And I sure as heck didn't want to miss on it for another team's cast-off


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I think the issue here is assuming the Browns wouldn't draft a QB @1 had we traded for Foles.

I look at it as if we'd have gotten Foles or Tyrod plus whatever QB we draft #1 which happened to be Mayfield. Mayfield would still have been the #1 pick by the Browns.

Some just like to read too much into things...


Agreed.

After Kirk Cousins, I didn't care what QB we ended up with, I wanted to drat a guy.


Last year, Mitch Trubisky was the top talent. I didn't think that he was a good enough QB to equal Myles Garrett. This year, I saw multiple talents that were better prospects than Mitch Trubisky. Rosen, Mayfield, and Darnold.

Since Tim Couch, we haven't had our choice at whichever QB we want (with a decent crop) till this year. I didn't want to miss on that opportunity.

And I sure as heck didn't want to miss on it for another team's cast-off



100% agree. (Minus the Cousins part)

I believe with a trade for Foles or Smith or Tyrod we were still going to take the top quarterback in this draft.

There is nothing to see here with this article about trading for Foles...except that it's a negative towards Taylor that he wasn't the Browns first choice.

Maybe the Browns leaked it to see how Tyrod will react. Who knows.

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None of this sounds kosher. Why he would want to stay, why we would give up the pick. All of it sounds very strange.

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Foles and JG chose not to play for the Browns, I think that proves they are smart....

Foles was the SB MVP... when the Browns get one, they can talk about his quality, either way, Kudos to the FO and to Dorsey to try to sign him.


Foles chose to continue being a backup in Philly instead of a starter for another NFL Team. That says enough for me right there.


As for SB MVP, Larry Brown of the Dallas Cowboys was SB MVP. How'd that work out for the next team who signed him?


We don't know if Foles is the backup... and even if he is, he will be for one year.

Signing with the Browns would be a career killer, so I can't blame him, I know I wouldn't in his case.

And I don't see the logic on us trading for the Super Bowl MVP, and then drafting a replacement....


maybe he thinks he can beat wentz out of starting spot?

He might not have to beat him out. As I understand it, there is no guarantee that Wentz is going to be ready to go at the beginning of the season.

His target date for return is literally opening day... if there is any setback at all, Foles could easily be your day 1 starter.. who knows from there. Foles run through the playoffs, comes out and lights it up in the first couple weeks... I mean, I know Wentz is really good and he's the future, but do you pull him at that point?


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In a heartbeat ...

Foles limits there offense .... they “changed” it for him to accentuate what he does good and he can’t do near the things Wentz can do ...

Wentz has a shot to be one of the all time greats .. he could be beyond SPECIAL ...

U NEVER sit that ...




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Nick Foles says Browns trade scenario was never presented to him

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Nick Foles said Tuesday that the Browns' trade scenario was never presented to him.

"First I heard of it was when someone texted me asking if it was true,'' Foles told the Philadelphia Inquirer's Jeff McLane. "Trade scenario never got to me, if true.''

NFL Media's Mike Silver reported that last week that the Browns offered the Eagles their No. 35 overall pick for Foles, the Super Bowl MVP, but they turned it down.

Silver reported that the Eagles ran the offer by Foles, who said he preferred to remain in Philadelphia. The Eagles subsequently restructured Foles contract, giving him a $2 million bonus which will enable him to earn up to $14 million this season.

After seeing McLane's report, Silver tweeted that he stands by his report.

Browns GM John Dorsey declined to comment on the report, saying he's excited to have Tyrod Taylor as his starter and that he can't comment on a player from another team.The Browns also tried to trade for former Chiefs QB Alex Smith before they aquired Taylor from the Bills for a third-round pick.

Foles will back up Carson Wentz as soon as Wentz is ready to return from the torn ACL he suffered in week 14. Foles stepped in and led the Eagles to a 41-33 Super Bowl victory over the Patriots, and earning MVP honors in the process.

At the NFL annual meeting in March, Eagles coach Doug Pederson said they didn't receive any offers that intrigued them.

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/05/nick_foles_says_browns_trade_s.html


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Nick Foles says Browns trade scenario was never presented to him

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Nick Foles said Tuesday that the Browns' trade scenario was never presented to him.

"First I heard of it was when someone texted me asking if it was true,'' Foles told the Philadelphia Inquirer's Jeff McLane. "Trade scenario never got to me, if true.''

NFL Media's Mike Silver reported that last week that the Browns offered the Eagles their No. 35 overall pick for Foles, the Super Bowl MVP, but they turned it down.

Silver reported that the Eagles ran the offer by Foles, who said he preferred to remain in Philadelphia. The Eagles subsequently restructured Foles contract, giving him a $2 million bonus which will enable him to earn up to $14 million this season.

After seeing McLane's report, Silver tweeted that he stands by his report.

Browns GM John Dorsey declined to comment on the report, saying he's excited to have Tyrod Taylor as his starter and that he can't comment on a player from another team.The Browns also tried to trade for former Chiefs QB Alex Smith before they aquired Taylor from the Bills for a third-round pick.

Foles will back up Carson Wentz as soon as Wentz is ready to return from the torn ACL he suffered in week 14. Foles stepped in and led the Eagles to a 41-33 Super Bowl victory over the Patriots, and earning MVP honors in the process.

At the NFL annual meeting in March, Eagles coach Doug Pederson said they didn't receive any offers that intrigued them.

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/05/nick_foles_says_browns_trade_s.html


i dont think he has a very good source in the browns...


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Not sure why this should matter to the fans and myself at all. A number of trades don't happen, deals don't get made or fall through. Might have been good for us.

The circumstances and handling of the issue seem kind of hinky, but not unknown in the NFL.
Being all mysterious and cloaked suggests hidden stuff.

Move along IMO. So what?

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I completely agree w/you, but it's pretty obvious why it matters to certain posters. LOL

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Yeah, from day one we knew Dorsey was looking to add a Veteran QB as we also knew that Dorsey was going to draft a QB at either #1 or #4, soon to be known we were going to draft at #1.

Did they make an offer, who know what, were we interested? I sure hope so he was a good option. I'm glad who we ended up with. As I mentioned if he turned it down and that is not true how are we to believe the other particulars.

And what does it really matter. We tried to get a veteran starting QB prior to the draft. If not Foles then TT. Its the smart thing to do.

jmho - Foles, TT they aren't going to be our Franchise QB we all know who that is. wink


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