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So, Vers claimed we didn't talk enough about why these kids are shooting up schools. the other thread has evolved to strictly control measures, so lets talk about the culture:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/porn-leads-school-shootings-gop-162323247.html

Does anyone know what kind of porn Rep. Diane Black (R-Tenn.) is watching?

Whatever it is, the 67-year-old Black, who is running for governor of Tennessee, said it’s a “big part” of what is driving the spike in school shootings.

During a meeting last week with local pastors, Black raised the issue of gun violence in schools and why it keeps happening.

“Pornography,” she said.

“It’s available on the shelf when you walk in the grocery store. Yeah, you have to reach up to get it, but there’s pornography there,” she continued. “All of this is available without parental guidance. I think that is a big part of the root cause.”

Here’s an audio of her remarks, which she made during a listening session with ministers at Safe Harbor of Clarksville, Tennessee.


Black didn’t clarify what it is about porn that she thinks is leading to school massacres. Her congressional spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.

Beyond naughty movies, Black said school shootings are on the rise because of the “deterioration of the family,” mental illness and violent movies.

There have been 23 shootings of some type on school grounds this year. Of those, nine involved a gun being discharged and people being injured or killed, including Friday’s shooting at an Indiana school that left a teacher and a student injured.

Contrary to Black’s take, experts say poor social, economic and cultural conditions are primary drivers of gun violence. Enacting policies to improve those conditions for people, along with reducing access to firearms, would go a long way in stemming mass shootings, they say.

These actions are “far more effective than all the police, doctors and hospitals combined, and intervening only after tragedies have struck,” said professors James Gilligan of New York University and Bandy Lee of Yale University, both experts on violence.

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man, i wonder what kind of porn this lady is watching? must be some pretty hardcore stuff.

i've watched porn, and i didn't feel the urge to go shoot up some schools. i use to try and stay up at night, and watch the fuzzy TV channels that you can barely make out some boobs when i was in middle school.

also, playboy has been around since how long? thats porn. why no school shootings then? or the 70's sexploitation films? why no school shootings?

i think chalking mass shootings up to watching porn is a very lazy and sad way to create a narrative that is suspect at best.

There's porn in the grocery store?

What grocery stores are these?

I must shop there. Haha

I don't know about porn leading to school shootings but I would say it has a lot to do with the INCEL movement and their belief that it's their right to have sex with beautiful women, even if the women don't want that.

From what I understand virtually every shooter was an incel (involuntarily celibate).


Porn is definitely not good for most humans. Unrealistic expectations being just the first layer of that onion.

Porn stars arent beautiful. They are whores.

I will start by saying porn magazines at the grocery store is not the problem.. but it is worthy of being part of the larger conversation when you look at porn/sex in the bigger picture and not in the puritan sense...

Psychologically, if you are an awkward teenager.. and you can watch all of these "teens" in porn videos doing all manner of freaky things.. and if other teens in the school are sexting each other and telling stories of getting laid.. it can lead a teenager to believe that everybody is getting laid all of the time.. everybody but them. This can be a part of the feeling of isolation that these kids feel who are on the outside with few to no friends and no opportunity for a decent relationship, forget about sex...

So to say porn is causing it is just stupid.. but to ignore the component "sex" plays, in a culture where sex seems to be everywhere all the time, in the feelings these outcast kids feel is also a bit naive..

You can be beautiful and a whore. Whores are just people with a nasty label. I wouldn't want my daughters doing it but strippers, porn stars, and prostitutes all do it to make a living.

I'm sorry but they will always be ugly to me.
There is more to being beautiful than outside looks. The way you behave and conduct yourself is a big part of it. That includes whoring oneself in front of a camera for money.

A 17 year old boy who isn't getting laid when he believes everybody around him is would see it differently..

17 year old boys dont have enough life experience to have a proper perspective in life.

Read up on serial killer Ted Bundy and find out what kind of effect he claimed porn had on him.

That’s not on the porn industry, that’s on parents and society clearly not explaining that this is not real. It’s fantasy.

And like that lady, it’s stupid to imply that somehow watching porn is a core contributor to mass shootings.

I’d certainly call that naive.

Especially since a while back you were one of the ones saying it was stupid for some to try and blame gun manufacturers for gun violence. That logic means blaming porn is beyond stupid.

Also, since it’s pretty obvious that more people around the world watch porn that own/use weapons, that’s falls under previous points I have made before.

Europeans and Asians and everywhere else watch porn. Why don’t they have a mass shooting problem?

Europeans and Asians and Africans play violent video games. Why don’t they have a school shooting problem?

Again, we act like the problems we have in this country are somehow unique to us. That’s pretty naive.

Porn is just one more way our society devalues people. (especially women, but really, both genders)

I'm honestly torn on the porn issue. On one hand I think porn has run amuck since the internet took off, on the other I don't like censorship of free speech.

I know that age restrictions on porn are out the window though, and I wouldn't mind legislation to enforce that online. You can see about anything on google images these days, let alone all the free clips on porn sites and aggregators.

And I'm well aware of parental options to block access to most of these but parents aren't necessarily capable (tech savvy), responsible enough, or in a lot of cases concerned enough to block them. Then you also have public internet access, kids sneaking on parents computers or changing user accounts, and friends whose parents don't block access.

20 years ago, my dumbass 15 year old son left a wet pic he printed in the shower. Obviously he got busted and I was already wondering why I was going through so much ink, but even then he was smart enough to delete the browser history.

People have used religion to devalue people, yet the call to ban religion doesn’t seem strong in this country.

So what changed that porn wasn’t an issue in the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s when it came to mass shootings?

Cause it was easy to get porn as a kid. My parents put restrictions on the web browser and it still didn’t work.

Bro I don't link it to shootings. I'm just talking about access. I was mid edit when you posted this.

The devaluation of people, human beings, and human dignity is a big part of the problem. I might find myself on a given day asking ... Why does the Country hate the people that live here so much?

On all levels of society there has been a clear message since 1986, that message is people don't matter and human dignity doesn't matter either.
I have personal reasons why I picked that year, a lot of things started that year, including language changes,

Where does it come from? It starts somewhere? Maybe I used to be able to think it wasn't all unified, just random occurances, but later I've observed the mechanism at work.

( Actually, I think the most transparent the governments totalarian control over every aspect of media and life time was on display when one thing happened).
In 2000 something, during a presidential primary race, which would be won by Barak Obama, in the early stages, over the course of one weekend, there came a time when the challenger, I think it was Hilary Clinton, out gained Obama in donations, it was reported for that previous month.

If you can see how the system reacted to that in that particular weekend, (see there was a shift in topic and focus), it showed in a transparent way, the scope of how so many things are interconnected.
But that's not the point.

The point is, what causes the school shootings?

I think the violent video games have a role. They are just too graphically realistic and show carnage without consequences.

I think, there was a time circa 1996-1999, when the political right, (which I identify with), .. orchestrated, or whatever, this new movement of conceal carry by honest citizens, also, accompanying this was a just advertising boom of gun shows, and I believe this increased the number of guns out in public at a given time exponentially,

So I said to myself, this is going to show one way or another, if shootings go up/ get worse, then it was clear that the uptick in guns out there would be a problem not a blessing.

Well, it kinda did, the shootings became more often if ya hadn't noticed, ( though someone may refute that with some statisics I think it's obvious that there've been more shootings of the mega mass and publicized kind since conceal carry,

But I still support conceal carry, but don't endorse it. I think the importance of it being legal is an important thing, even though I don't think it is a good thing for people to do.

And I've heard of the title, "more guns less crime" to partly agree with it, even if I don't think it's a true statement.

I could argue pit bulls, computers, corporations, the inteligience of education, and the economy have as much of an affect on why there are school shootings as porn, so I can surely try to see what point the person saying porn is the problem is trying to make.

I happen to think there is one cause to school shootings and that is sissy half men getting their panties in a wad over providing proper security to the schools as it would show that guns in the right hands can prevent deaths from guns in the wrong hands.

They simply hate guns and will sacrifice children for their agenda.

If you read through the threads you will see the same people who fight protecting school children because of expense are the same ones who promote abortion for economic reasons.

The agenda comes before us all.

I was about 12 or 13 when I found a cashe of playboys, hustlers, penthouses, and some other various magazines in an abandoned barn. I have yet to kill anyone over them.

Thanks for posting this, bro. It shows how freaking dumb our politicians are.

I think that many of us know that there is not one answer why these shootings are occurring at such an incredible rate.

I really want to start a thread about the "all" of it. Clem encouraged me to do so, but I am very afraid because I'm not sure I can articulate the message in a manner that will inspire true discussion that would lead to a positive plan. Quite simply, I don't want to blow it.

But man, this is such a huge issue. We gotta do something. It won't be easy and it won't be pretty. Many will be offended, but it's time we stop the canned arguments and dig deep into what is truly ailing our youths.

I will end this post by saying that I have identified multiple factors that have contributed to this tragic phenomenon. The problem is some will get upset when they hear some of the contributing factors.

How do we get past our own biases and collaborate to at least help reduce such horrific acts?

I wouldn't say dumb so much as from yesteryear. 1960 called and wants all the conservatives back in Mayberry.

There is a lot of pretzel logic in that statement.. I guess video games are out of fashion..

The type of person that does this are social misfits for a lack of a better word. The are withdrawn inward and ferment their dissatisfaction into hatred and then actions.

So their is the basic description, maybe we can look at how to recognize and address the issues.

Personally, I think it’s importa that kids have outside social activities that include both genders, so they learn how to be around other people. Too much time alone is just a bad idea...

I also think that parents tend to want to shelter their children too much. Hiding your child from other to protect them may make the parent comfortable, but it probably is not the best thing.

There were denominations and sects that have devalued people, but Christ never devalued anyone.

I want to clarify that it is not only porn that causes our society to devalue people. There are so many factors that it would take me half an hour to list them all, and I have already done some of them on another thread. However, porn is definitely a part of it.

U must type fast if its only gonna take u a 1/2 hour ...

That's my point, they see enough things and think that IS real life.

I didn't blame the porn industry for producing something that a lot of folks evidently want to consume.. it's legal so they have every right to produce it..

I was merely stating the roll it can play in the life of an impressionable young kid who is already insecure, awkward, and feels like an outcast.. that's it.

I would have to assume that a lot of factors go into turning a kid from awkward teenager to mass shooter... porn might be but a small part of that process...


I don't know bro... I don't think the problems we have are unique but the manifestation of those problems seem to be unique.. Other countries have awkward outcast teens, other countries have porn and violent video games, other countries have drugs and booze, other countries have crappy parents, other countries even have a fair amount of guns, other countries have various degrees of religious convictions... yet teens walking into schools and shooting as many people as they can seems to be significantly more prevalent in this country.. Just like you, I'm trying to find the common denominator, some kind of explanation as how with a lot of the same inputs we seem to get a different output...

I think the problem has more to do with the acceptance of violence in the media/songs/games than any sort of porn.

Highschool kids aren't all hooking up. I'd guess some of them have girl friends / boyfriends, .... and of those some of them might have sex.

But in general, it's not like "Everybody is getting laid but me".
Highschool is some weird awkward time. Not "We are all badass players, and we are all getting laid but you". So you sulk off and look at porn and become filled with rage.

I don't think so.

BUT there have been shootings where the student was bitter about a girl not liking him. Jealousy is NOT porn. Just saying.

I would have to say that has more to do with an entitled society than anything. You feel entitled to the girl. Because you are supposed to be given whatever you want in life. Nobody ever told you No.

And then...she doesn't want you. She wants someone else. Jealousy.

So that, combined with the glorification of violence probably has resulted in some bad scenarios.

^ In this episode of "As the Bottle Drains", we watch Eve defend porn, describe high school from the point of view of a BandO, explain violence in the new age... Tune in tomorrow to see Eve cover Tinfoil Conspiracies and there relevance to OCD on the next episode of "As the Bottle Drains".

Haha. You're very funny there. Which is why I like you.

Just don't give me your Trump rabies.

Or they would see it the same way and his inability to get laid around so many 'whores' would make him hate anyone he thought was a whore.

Long story short: Prostitutes, strippers, and porn stars are not whores.

What you said is accurate and true and well worth discussion.

The comment by the Congresswoman is simply ignorant and naive.

You made chicken salad out of chicken poop - Normally I say you can't do that.

I respect your opinion, but I disagree with it. If that's the profession they choose to go into, that's their call. It's legal, it's safe, it's regulated, and they make good money doing it.

I don't believe it makes them whores, or ugly. They could be really nice people who like the paycheck and are very comfortable with their sexuality.

They go to work, and get screwed just like the rest of us

Definition of whore
1 : a woman who engages in sexual acts for money : prostitute; also, informal + offensive : a promiscuous or immoral woman
2 : a male who engages in sexual acts for money
3 : a venal or unscrupulous person

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/whore

"Porn doesn't kill"

"The only way to stop a bad guy with a porn addiction is with a good guy with a porn addiction"

"Arm all our public schools with porn"

"Put armed porn stars in our schools"

"Allow teachers to carry porn to protect children from the killer porn addicts"

According to the webster definition, the current president of the USA is a whore.

If the shoe fits...

Great! A fetish in a porn thread. Now we're all doomed!

Maybe old Diane is just mad because she isn't getting any.

Say the word porn, tie it to just about anything and the evangelicals will support you

This is an attempt to that voting block.