It’s crazy to think they’re not fleeing that socialist nightmare. Marching in the streets for a for profit healthcare system. Demanding less workers rights. Fewer paid days off. Less maternity and paternity leave. I’m surprised our borders aren’t bursting at the seems with floatillas of Norwegian /Scandinavian escapees.
One of my boys is from Sweden. He’s blonde hair blue eyed and said he’d never move to the, and I quote “racist states of America”
I kind got offended but I understand where he’s coming from.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Accepting immigrants into the US is the only way the US will be able to grow its population.
Even though you're correct, nativists quake at this thought.
The problem for them is that after 400 years of fleeing bigotry, oppression, famine, etc. the European migratory wave is pretty much over. Folks who live there want to stay there now. And yet, we still have that gal in NY Harbor with her torch of promise shining out to others who are now facing what Europeans were trying to escape. Others. You know, yellow, black and brown people. People from- what did our POTUS call them? Oh, yeah... those places.
This is nothing new. In fact, it's simply the most recent incarnation of the same old immigrant policy we've always had: "Thanks for letting us in. Now, let's roll up the welcome mat and lock the door."
Not all Americans believe this, but the most vocal ones of late do. As do some at or near the top of our power structure.
Even a blind man can see what you are up to here.
The President wonders why we constantly have to immigrate uneducated, low skilled people from backward countries and you immediately turn that to mean brown people. Your racism shines through in every statement you make.
No one has a problem with immigrating Indian and Asian people who are educated and Tech Savvy. They are brown and yellow by the way.
America needs quality immigrants, we already have plenty of the low skilled and uneducated to pay for.
I have come to the conclusion that you and others are more concerned with your agenda of the browning of America (Racist), than with what is actually good for our Nations future.(Educated, Working, and Skilled immigrants, who add to our growth, regardless of color.)
Accepting immigrants into the US is the only way the US will be able to grow its population.
Even though you're correct, nativists quake at this thought.
The problem for them is that after 400 years of fleeing bigotry, oppression, famine, etc. the European migratory wave is pretty much over. Folks who live there want to stay there now. And yet, we still have that gal in NY Harbor with her torch of promise shining out to others who are now facing what Europeans were trying to escape. Others. You know, yellow, black and brown people. People from- what did our POTUS call them? Oh, yeah... those places.
This is nothing new. In fact, it's simply the most recent incarnation of the same old immigrant policy we've always had: "Thanks for letting us in. Now, let's roll up the welcome mat and lock the door."
Not all Americans believe this, but the most vocal ones of late do. As do some at or near the top of our power structure.
Even a blind man can see what you are up to here.
The President wonders why we constantly have to immigrate uneducated, low skilled people from backward countries and you immediately turn that to mean brown people. Your racism shines through in every statement you make.
No one has a problem with immigrating Indian and Asian people who are educated and Tech Savvy. They are brown and yellow by the way.
America needs quality immigrants, we already have plenty of the low skilled and uneducated to pay for.
I have come to the conclusion that you and others are more concerned with your agenda of the browning of America (Racist), than with what is actually good for our Nations future.(Educated, Working, and Skilled immigrants, who add to our growth, regardless of color.)
I see what you are doing here.
You do realize that the Italian and Irish were at one time considered the same way as you are considering the , what I assume you are referring to, Mexicans
You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG
The cost of living is rising, and it’s only gonna get worse with trade wars.
Whatever little money the middle class got from tax cuts just got wiped out with filling up their rides, and prices of goods going up.
People are back to making life decisions at the gas pump. I have to fill up on 93 so I never whine about gas prices, but a lot of people are upset that they are paying more for 87.
Then, healthcare cost keep rising, food and housing keeps rising. Don’t get me started with rent prices. I don’t want to raise rent come lease renewal but my property taxes have gone up so I dunno.
Since we’ve moved to a service and tech based economy, somebody is gonna have to explain to me why it’s smart to get into a trade war when we import more than we export, especially since we aren’t a manufacturing based economy anymore and won’t be for the foreseeable future.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
What were the color of the people that lived in the $h!+hole countries he mentioned again? See, nobody has to do what you described to Trump. Trump does it to himself.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Ya ... it has nuttin to do with the fact we can’t take care of the people we have here now its all about the “color” of the people ... ....
That George Washington had a HUGE PROBLEM with the homeless folk back then and the WELFARE SCROLLS were off the charts ...
Hey 40/Will
Did u guys see where there GIVING LAND AWAY FOR FREE in Oklahoma again ... ...
0 + 0 = 0 ...
Youre contradicting your roommate 40 now. Because he just said its about the people education and skill levels .
So would you be ok if the immigrants were coming from Ireland?
You do realize there are a hhe number of Russian immigrants coming here too , right ? a lot of them are going into the trucking industry. Oh I forgot , Trump and his jockey boys love them some Russians
You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG
It should be about weather they can contribute to our society .... should have always been that way ...
If it were me ... right now ... until we get our HOUSE IN ORDER ... I’d END ALL IMMIGRATION until we figured this out ... i could care less what they look like ...
I guess your OK allowing more low skilled, poorly educated people into a country where we all ready are over 20 trillion in debt ... have welfare and food stamp programs that are so full there bursting at the seems ...
I have no clue how bringing more people into this country makes us better ESPECIALLY if they are low skilled and un-educated ...
Everything’s ALWAYS about color with u lefties ... ALWAYS ... thats a REAL SHAME ...
It should be about weather they can contribute to our society .... should have always been that way ...
If it were me ... right now ... until we get our HOUSE IN ORDER ... I’d END ALL IMMIGRATION until we figured this out ... i could care less what they look like ...
I guess your OK allowing more low skilled, poorly educated people into a country where we all ready are over 20 trillion in debt ... have welfare and food stamp programs that are so full there bursting at the seems ...
I have no clue how bringing more people into this country makes us better ESPECIALLY if they are low skilled and un-educated ...
Everything’s ALWAYS about color with u lefties ... ALWAYS ... thats a REAL SHAME ...
After reading your post I am not sure you shoukd be calling anyone uneducated .
ANd again my question , if the mass wave of immigrants was coming from Ireland, no wait , let me change that to Italy(theres a reason I changed it ) would you be ok with it ?
You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG
They had better be coming with their skill sets already in place. Because, you know... everybody who came before them already had advanced degrees and professional trades.
John Kelly was an ignint ass (with no historical fact to back him up) for saying what he did. And now, we have parrots at this address who repeat it without thought or shame.
What part of I’D END ALL IMMIGRATION NOW did u NOT UNDERSTAND ...
Then I FOLLOWED it up with ... I could care less what they look like ...
Ok, so you are less of a racist and more of an elitist who has money and a job.. so screw everybody else. Got it. You should just tack on "Let them eat cake" to all of your posts.
And your plan.. this plan to end all immigration now for some indefinite amount of time... that's absolutely not going to make the republicans sugar daddy's at the top very happy.. almost all of them rely heavily on those immigrants to help them amass their fortunes.. that's why it's never going to happen.
See, the puppeteers at the top, the ones that pulling Trump's strings and moving him around.. they are putting up with his big tough show on immigration because it's a necessary evil for him to keep the poor class of republicans pacified while Trump gives his puppeteers what they want in taxes, etc.. the minute it becomes a problem for their businesses, they'll yank him back into line.
I've always said that it was lip service. The Republicans want cheap labor and the Dems want their votes. There's no incentive from either side to actually address the problem.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
I've always said that it was lip service. The Republicans want cheap labor and the Dems want their votes. There's no incentive from either side to actually address the problem.
Nope, but it makes one helluva wedge to keep driving between us.. when they have no intention of actually trying to solve it..
What part of I’D END ALL IMMIGRATION NOW did u NOT UNDERSTAND ...
Then I FOLLOWED it up with ... I could care less what they look like ...
The term is " I couldn't care less)
I just find it ironic that someone who uses weather instead of whether would refer to some other group as uneducated. I would think your gibberish was written by an immigrant who speaks no English.
You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG
some people truly have an every man for himself mentality when it comes to this country.
the more we go on, the more i see people willing to say screw everybody else, as long as i get mine.
doesnt exactly sound like patriotism to me. hell, you can't even call that nationalism, despite the fact that its the very movement that trump ran on.
people out here trashing low skilled workers as if this country wasn't developed by the very people.
i dont remember reading about how rich the irish were coming over here. i dont remember reading how rich the chinese were while they damn near slaved over our railroads. don't get me started on the low skilled african slaves that came over here, who slaved in the heat building up the very economy we enjoy today.
people keep talking about the american dream, yet want to put a ban on people who actually are trying to achieve that dream.
people talk about america first while they continue buying chinese goods and cars built in mexico. we got BMW's and mercedes more american built than actual american car brands. how pathetic is that?
at this point, freaking Kia's are more american than half the crap Ford and GM put out.
yall stay whining about low skill immigrants, yet when the very easy solution of investing in our own citizens education comes out, yall wanna whine about that too.
no matter what, it will always been viewed as takers and debt by conservatives, instead of viewing it as investments into our own people.
i get killed for being a globalist, yet the very conservatives who clown me about it cant stop shopping in walmart.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
i wonder how low that price would be if we stopped increasing military spending.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Justin Trudeau said a planned meeting with U.S. President Donald Trump to potentially seal a Nafta deal collapsed after Mike Pence called and insisted the meeting was conditional on adding a sunset clause.
Trudeau made the revelation of the often-private talks during a press conference in Ottawa Thursday where he sharply criticized U.S. steel and aluminum tariffs and announced retaliatory tariffs of his own. He was asked what the new measures mean for North American Free Trade Agreement negotiations.
Trudeau said he had offered to “sit down around a table with the president to work out the final details of Nafta, because there was the broad lines of a decent win-win-win deal on the table that I thought required that final deal making moment,” Trudeau said. “I got a call from Vice President Pence on Tuesday in which it was impressed upon me that there was a precondition to us being able to get together -- that Canada would accept a sunset clause for Nafta.” Trudeau said he refused.
“I had to highlight that there was no possibility of any Canadian prime minister signing a Nafta deal that included a five-year sunset clause, and obviously the visit didn’t happen.”
‘Open’ to Talks A senior U.S. official who requested anonymity to discuss the private conversation between the leaders described the request not as a demand to include the sunset clause, but a request for "clarity" on a series of preliminary issues. Pence made the request during a phone conversation with Trudeau on Tuesday, and did so in consultation with Trump and U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer, the official said.
The sunset clause is one of a handful of highly controversial areas of talks -- the U.S. wants Nafta to expire after five years unless the three countries agree to extend it, a clause that Canada and Mexico say is absurd and wouldn’t offer investors long-term certainty.
The remarks indicate a Nafta deal was close enough for Trudeau to think a meeting of leaders could wrap things up, but also that Canada and the U.S. remain sharply divided on the issue of the sunset clause. Trudeau said he’s confident Mexico would never accept it either.
Nafta talks have made progress lately on the issue of auto manufacturing, another key area. Disputes remain over U.S. demands to cap the value of contracts awarded to Canadian and Mexican companies and proposals to kill or water-down certain dispute panels.
“We continue to be open to working on a renewed and modernized Nafta, and we will continue to sit down at the negotiating table,” Trudeau said.
The window to get a deal passed under this Congress -- which had been the U.S. goal -- is nearly gone. House Speaker Paul Ryan had said he needed to be notified by May 17 of intent to sign a deal, then said there might be a couple of weeks of wiggle room, placing the deadline around now. Mexican elections are also scheduled for July 1.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Accepting immigrants into the US is the only way the US will be able to grow its population.
Even though you're correct, nativists quake at this thought.
The problem for them is that after 400 years of fleeing bigotry, oppression, famine, etc. the European migratory wave is pretty much over. Folks who live there want to stay there now. And yet, we still have that gal in NY Harbor with her torch of promise shining out to others who are now facing what Europeans were trying to escape. Others. You know, yellow, black and brown people. People from- what did our POTUS call them? Oh, yeah... those places.
This is nothing new. In fact, it's simply the most recent incarnation of the same old immigrant policy we've always had: "Thanks for letting us in. Now, let's roll up the welcome mat and lock the door."
Not all Americans believe this, but the most vocal ones of late do. As do some at or near the top of our power structure.
Even a blind man can see what you are up to here.
The President wonders why we constantly have to immigrate uneducated, low skilled people from backward countries and you immediately turn that to mean brown people. Your racism shines through in every statement you make.
No one has a problem with immigrating Indian and Asian people who are educated and Tech Savvy. They are brown and yellow by the way.
America needs quality immigrants, we already have plenty of the low skilled and uneducated to pay for.
I have come to the conclusion that you and others are more concerned with your agenda of the browning of America (Racist), than with what is actually good for our Nations future.(Educated, Working, and Skilled immigrants, who add to our growth, regardless of color.)
I see what you are doing here.
You do realize that the Italian and Irish were at one time considered the same way as you are considering the , what I assume you are referring to, Mexicans
And what you fail to realize is back when the Irish, Poles, Welsh and Italians were coming over, America was in need of Coal Miners. Many of them were skilled in mining while it was easy to train the others. We also were in need of people in the Garment industry, making shoes and shirts and stuff.
Today we need educated Tech people. We have plenty of low skilled people already.
this will be interesting to see how long this goes.
why? remember folks, Brexit is supposed to be set in 2019. now, with the recent trade wars, the UK has to figure out if they will continue negotiating to stay in the EU markets, or do a full withdrawn and negotiate their own trade with other countries.
will this potentially throw a wrench into the process? right now the UK is still part of the EU market, so this will hurt as well, especially if they start targeting the auto industry, as they have:
Land Rover Aston Martin Jaguar and Bentley. so while those are mostly luxury lines, they are still insanely popular vehicles here in the US.
gonna be interesting.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump Canada has treated our Agricultural business and Farmers very poorly for a very long period of time. Highly restrictive on Trade! They must open their markets and take down their trade barriers! They report a really high surplus on trade with us. Do Timber & Lumber in U.S.?
9:18 AM - Jun 1, 2018
does he not realize that farmers are upset with Trumps trade wars?
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
The US economy suddenly looks like it's unstoppable
Friday's economic data provided evidence the U.S. economy is heading into the second half of 2018 with strong momentum.
Nonfarm payrolls beat expectations while manufacturing and construction indexes both showed accelerated growth.
Economists are slowly ratcheting up expectations for growth through the end of the year, with widely followed measures putting the second quarter at between 3.6 percent and 4.8 percent.
Jeff Cox | @JeffCoxCNBCcom Published 11 Hours Ago Updated 6 Hours Ago
In the face of persistent fears that the world could be facing a trade war and a synchronized slowdown, the U.S. economy enters June with a good deal of momentum.
Friday's data provided convincing evidence that domestic growth remains intact even if other developed economies are slowing. A better-than-expected nonfarm payrolls report coupled with a convincing uptick in manufacturing and construction activity showed that the second half approaches with a tail wind blowing.
"The fundamentals all look very solid right now," said Gus Faucher, chief economist at PNC. "You've got job growth and wage gains that are supporting consumer spending, and tax cuts as well. There's a little bit of a drag from higher energy prices, but the positives far outweigh that. Business incentives are in good shape."
The day started off with the payrolls report showing a gain of 223,000 in May, well above market expectations of 188,000, and the unemployment rate hitting an 18-year low of 3.8 percent.
Then, the ISM manufacturing index registered a 58.7 reading — representing the percentage of businesses that report expanding conditions — that also topped Wall Street estimates. Finally, the construction spending report showed a monthly gain of 1.8 percent, a full point higher than expectations.
Put together, the data helped fuel expectations that first-quarter growth of 2.2 percent will be the low-water point of 2018.
"May's rebound in jobs together with yesterday's report of solid income growth and the rise in consumer confidence points to the economy functioning very well," the National Retail Federation's chief economist, Jack Kleinhenz, said in a statement. "Solid fundamentals in the job market are encouraging for retail spending, as employment gains generate additional income for consumers and consequently increase spending."
The most recent slate of widely followed barometers could see economists ratchet up growth expectations.
Already, the Atlanta Fed's GDPNow tracker sees the second quarter rising by 4.8 percent. While the measure also was strongly optimistic on the first quarter as well, at one point estimating 5.4 percent growth, other gauges are positive as well. CNBC's Rapid Update, for instance, puts the April-to-June period at 3.6 percent.
Andrew Hunter, U.S. economist at Capital Economics, said the ISM number alone is consistent with GDP growth of better than 4 percent, though he thinks the second quarter will be in the 3 percent to 3.5 percent range.
"With global growth set to hold up fairly well in the near term, this suggests that manufacturing activity should continue to expand at a solid pace," Hunter said in a note. "That said, if the Trump administration continues to pursue protectionist policies and provoke retaliation from other countries, the export-focused manufacturing sector would be most exposed."
Indeed, there are a spate of headwinds still out there, and trade continues to top the list.
The White House's decision this week to forge ahead with steel and aluminum tariffs stoked fears that the administration could be its own worst enemy on the road to 3 percent-plus growth. While the tariffs themselves are expected to have minimal economic impact on their own, fears remain that they could spark retaliatory measures and, ultimately, an all-out trade war.
Exports make up just 12.4 percent of the U.S. economy, but S&P 500 companies generate about 43 percent of their sales internationally. That's why markets tend to recoil every time the administration saber rattles about tariffs.
Still, manufacturers remain largely upbeat.
Respondents to the ISM survey released Friday relayed mostly positive sentiments. One typical statement, from an unidentified transportation equipment firm, said, "We are currently overselling our forecast and don't see an end to the upswing in business," while noting that "we are very concerned" about the tariff situation and "are focusing on alternatives to Chinese sourcing."
Others noted price pressures, while an index that tracks order backlogs hit its highest level since April 2004. The pricing index also registered its highest since April 2011, as firms noted that inflationary pressures are building heading into the second half.
That's consistent with news out of the trucking industry, which is reporting a shortage of drivers amid huge demand for delivery vehicles.
While inflation could prompt more aggressive action in the form of Federal Reserve interest rate hikes, PNC's Faucher sees an economy resilient enough to withstand that and other headwinds.
"The tight labor market is going to lead businesses to invest in capital that makes their workers more productive. Then you've got stronger government spending with the increase in discretionary spending caps," he said. "I think we'll see growth better than 3 percent in the final three quarters of the year."
"We should beware of the demagogues who are willing to declare a trade war against our friends, weakening our economy, our national security, and the entire free world, all while cynically waving the American flag." -Ronald Reagan
Billionaire Koch brothers' political network will spend millions to oppose Trump's tariffs – the group's biggest split with the president so far
-The Koch political network unveils a multi-year, multimillion dollar campaign opposing the tariffs implemented by President Donald Trump's administration. -The campaign will include media buys, activist education, grassroots mobilization, lobbying and policy analysis. -The network calls on the president to lift the recent steel and aluminum tariffs and the proposed levies on Chinese imports. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/04/koch-network-plans-to-spend-millions-to-fight-trumps-tariffs.html
The Republican Establishment raises it's angry fist!
Billionaire Koch brothers' political network will spend millions to oppose Trump's tariffs – the group's biggest split with the president so far
-The Koch political network unveils a multi-year, multimillion dollar campaign opposing the tariffs implemented by President Donald Trump's administration. -The campaign will include media buys, activist education, grassroots mobilization, lobbying and policy analysis. -The network calls on the president to lift the recent steel and aluminum tariffs and the proposed levies on Chinese imports. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/04/koch-network-plans-to-spend-millions-to-fight-trumps-tariffs.html
The Republican Establishment raises it's angry fist!
That is interesting , as a Republican how do you feel about this ?
You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG
Billionaire Koch brothers' political network will spend millions to oppose Trump's tariffs – the group's biggest split with the president so far
-The Koch political network unveils a multi-year, multimillion dollar campaign opposing the tariffs implemented by President Donald Trump's administration. -The campaign will include media buys, activist education, grassroots mobilization, lobbying and policy analysis. -The network calls on the president to lift the recent steel and aluminum tariffs and the proposed levies on Chinese imports. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/04/koch-network-plans-to-spend-millions-to-fight-trumps-tariffs.html
The Republican Establishment raises it's angry fist!
That is interesting , as a Republican how do you feel about this ?
Well, being that I voted for Trump and watched as the Republican Establishment tried to crush him.
Watching as I did the Koch Brothers said they were willing to support Hillary in order to stop Trump.
Watching as the world cried that the Tax cuts and the pullout from the Paris Accord and PTD and making NATO pay its share for defense and moving our embassy to Jerusalem would all work to destroy America and the World.
Watching how our economy has expanded with consumer and business confidence at all time highs while unemployment is at 20 year lows and the Stock Market zooming to all time highs.
Well, I guess I will stand back and watch President Trump run this Deal too. He hasn't burned us yet. So far, so good.
So are you completely not taking into consideration the massive debt he’s running up?
Spending is always a huge issue with the GOP right up until one of their own is elected POTUS. Then it's spend, spend, spend. Put it on the credit card with the other three wars that are already on it.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
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