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Rocky is just as uncouth as she is.

Ok fair enough. So you'd be good with both Hannity and Maher to be fired then right?

Well, I have only watched Real Time a half a dozen times and zero in the last few years.. and I used to listen to Hannity on the radio but haven't in probably over 15 years.. so from a practical standpoint, no it wouldn't both me if both were fired.

From a more "constitutional" standpoint I'd rather they not be fired for just having crappy shows that spread half truths and get people worked into a frenzy... I'd rather the American people would wise up and stop watching them... then they can be fired for poor ratings...

I watch Real time but never get worked up over it. I find some of it pretty funny but I take it for what it is.

To me the problem really exists by those that allow either one of them to be taken seriously and get worked up over it.

If you are able to that, then that's fine.. most people aren't.

From the first couple times I watched it, I hated the format.. I went away for a while and thought, maybe I just saw a couple bad episodes that didn't appeal to me.. so periodically I checked back.. the format was always the same and the content really turned me off.. so after a few attempts, I just decided that show wasn't for me.

SO....if you haven't listened to Hannity in 15 years how do you know what comments he makes obviously you don't know pffft.

I still have access to news, I still see a variety of articles about him, I see plenty of his quotes.. I'm pretty confidant he hasn't changed.

But you are kind of right.. maybe I should check into one of his shows for 10 minutes and see what's going on.. which is what bugged me before, if you listened for 10-15 minutes, you heard the whole show, the next 2 hours and 45 minutes were just 8 more like minded guests saying the same thing about the same 1 or 2 topics... then pause to bring in a democrat for a "debate" then shout them down when they tried to make a point.. quality programming... Who knows, maybe it's different now.

Man's odor sparks emergency landing after passengers vomit, faint


Plane makes emergency landing after passengers vomit, faint from 'unbearable' smell of 'unwashed' man onboard

A Transavia flight to the Spanish island of Gran Canaria was forced to make an emergency landing in Portugal when several passengers reportedly became ill by the “unbearable” smell of an “unwashed” man onboard.

The male passenger allegedly smelled so bad that others on the flight began fainting and vomiting once the plane took off from Schiphol Airport in the Netherlands.

http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2018/05/31...an-onboard.html

Roseanne has long been my favourite TV sitcom and I was looking forward to see more of the new version. I understand why they cancelled the show, but it was disappointing.

Her Tweet was stupid, but I don't think she's a racist.

I've smelled bad people in my life but never anybody that gave me that reaction... maybe if I had to sit a few feet from it on a plane for a long period of time... just nasty.

J/C

ABC has a right to cancel whatever they want as a network, just like the NFL has the right to put forth the anthem policy.

However, I would like to know why Disney (who owns ABC) has not pulled Madacascar off the shelves after Chris Rock stated he wanted white kids to kill each other and wanted to see white moms on tv crying....

You just answered your own question. They all have the right to cancel whatever they want.

so then why are you and others throwing a fit about the NFL's policy, yet see no problem w/ abc. the hypocrisy is deafening.

The fans like you are ones throwing the fits. You all pretend and
help create this crazy twist that their protest and those who wish to support and kneel with minorities during the NA in protest to the inequalities in the US is disrespecting the U.S. military. It's not, but by all means Y'all go ahead and force your pretend patriotism on everyone just like those who shove their religion and beliefs on others do. Typical.

Funny, I have stated several times the protest don't bother me. Your not Assuming now are you?

However you have stated several times I believe the Nfl was violating the players 1st amendment rights, if so, is abc not doing the same? Care to pick a stance and stay with it, or are you going to flip flop based on who it is? 12 or 25%?

I think thats a bit of a stetch. ABC has decided not to do any further shows with Roseanne, its not like they are pulling all her already made shows. Now if ABC was to sign Rock to do a show or something , you would have a point

Yeah, well since the two aren't even comparable I don't think you're saying what you think you are.

ABC and other channels have all pulled reruns of the original show.

How are they not comparable? ABC (her employer at the time) decided what she did was not with their ideology and terminated her employment. Their right to do so.

The NFL, not liking what the players are doing, have decided they have to follow policy, or they can fine and suspend them, their right to do so.

OK, well that is their choice because they dont want Roseanne asscoiated with their brans. I mean, I guess if Disney felt people would associate Chris Rock with their name because he played the voice of a cartoon character in on of their movies then they would pull Madagascar. Hell, I wasnt even sure if Madagascar was a disney franchise

Does ABC force their employees to stand for the U.S. National anthem before each show?

What's next for the NFL? Every fan must stand for the NA or face being fined?

Y'all just can't stand to see a minority that makes more money then you protest a cause you hate. Equality!

Where we agree is that an employer has that right. To me that's an easy call unless you have a contract that states otherwise.

That's where any comparison ends. The fact so many can't see one as a racist tweet and the other as a demonstration for social justice is beyond amazing.

So if you actually believe you can compare those two things, more power to you.

it is their choice. but the double standard is what people are upset about. Joy Bahar, Mahar, Chris Rock, Dl Hughley, all have said some pretty nasty stuff about white people, and about conservatives, with absolutely no backlash from liberal companies.

What roseann said was horrific, there is not doubting that, but if we are going to hold her responsible, whats good for the goose is good for the gander. We cannot bridge the gap in our country, when its heavily slanted to favor one political side.

Roseanne has a history of mental illness, and multiple personality disorder. I think that should be taken into acct as well.

There isn't a double standard because they're not being racist. Well, I'm sure Bahar and Maher have been, but I don't know the situation you're referring to. They're also telling jokes. Typing x + y = z is not a joke.

That should have been taken into account before ABC ever brought the series back in the first place. Not used as some excuse for her behavior afterwards. That falls on ABC.

But it's hard for me to take you seriously in one respect. On one hand you stand up for employers having the right to hire or fire whoever they choose. Then on the other hand seem upset when they don't fire some you think should also be fired.

SO are these " liberal companies" one entity? Is there a registration to determine which companies are " liberal companies" ? what are the qualifications or disallowances to be a " liberal company"?

Personnel who choose not to stand for the anthem may stay in the locker room or in a similar location off the field until after the anthem has been performed.

The NFL isn't forcing them to stand they have the FREEDOM to work for another company if they so choose.

I'm sure there are 1000's of jobs they can get where they can protest anytime they want and their employer will be glad to pay them Millions of dollars.

Yes, both entities are within their rights as employers to do what they are doing...

It is just my opinion that one of them is doing the right thing and the other is not..

Actually that is still questionable. The NFL did not say they were going to fine or suspend the players. They said they will fine the teams. Once (if) the teams try to pass those down to the players is when the battle over the CBA will begin

So that says exactly what I just said

Each NFL team is an independent employer.. the NFL is a governing body with the authority to make some (but not all) of the rules each team must live by... the NFL has anti-trust exemptions with the federal government that allow it to act in ways that would be incredibly illegal for other businesses to act.. It's far more complicated than "just get another job"...

I have to admit, I don't get the fascination with this kind of forced compliance (or stay out of sight).. does it actually make people feel better when the camera pans the sidelines and these guys are either missing or standing there still feeling the same way on the inside? Does that give you some sense of satisfaction? Even the tweets and comments about how they should stand proudly.. you can force them to stand, you cannot force them to be proud... The only way to do that, to have them stand with pride, is to begin fixing the problems which are causing them to protest.. but giving the appearance of pride is evidently more important than fixing the problems so they can have actual pride...

There's only one problem with "get another job". In the NFL, the players are the product. Without those players, the NFL does not exist.

That's the conundrum the league has put the owners in when they adopted this latest policy. Do the owners want to alienate the players and risk their product on the field of play?

The league decided to play a game I call, "Pass That Buck!"

I believe there are some people in our society that thrive on forcing others to conform to their sense of right and wrong. Even when it's not a legal issue. They have their way of thinking and their sensibilities and there's no room for anyone to have different, feelings, actions or expression.

If anyone else does, they put some kind of label on them they believe to be derogatory or negative. This isn't a right or left issue. This same set of rules seems to exist on both sides.

nope, I am for equality. On one hand you want liberals to be treated one way, and on the other you want anyone else to be treated differently.

Chris rock saying he wants to see white kids show and white mothers on tv crying is not racist?

Questionable huh? Please do tell, have any NBA players kneeled? No? Why not?

Because they found other ways to protest?



Think the NFL would let this happen during warm ups? No.. why? Look at the fanbases of the NFL compared to the NBA...

so we agree, they were not allowed to kneel. thank you for agreeing, that the nfl has the same right the nba has in making that rule.