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Originally Posted By: Halfback32
It is more of a "right of passage." the stripe comes when you make the 53


Yet I don't believe that will work. The NFL has strict uniform guidelines. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, NFL players have gotten fined for even wearing different socks. Now this may work to achieve certain goals in training camp, but when NFL players take the field, the uniforms must be the same.

That would include pre-season. So every player would have to wear stripes on their helmets during pre-season which is long before the roster is cut down to 53 players.


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I'm totally ambivalent about this. Don't care.


Yeah, it's like when Mike use to hand out dawg bones.

These dudes are at the highest level of football, if that's not motivation enough then I'd hope they wouldn't be a part of the team.


I agree with you logically, but it's still cool to have some fun stuff at work.

Like cake in the break room in the office or employee of the month, etc, just a little something to compliment the players doing well.


Ehhh... when you put it like that, how can one not agree? Point made and accepted thumbsup

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That is why I think it a rinky dink move.


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Except a employee of the month singles out one person. Nobody gets their stripes until they make the final roster.


I don't see it as a motivational tool at all. Not getting fired is the motivation for the players.


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Except a employee of the month singles out one person. Nobody gets their stripes until they make the final roster.


I don't see it as a motivational tool at all. Not getting fired is the motivation for the players.


Lol, I'd hate to be your employee! :-P Just jokin' around.

Positive reinforcement has it's place in management.

Why yell at 52 players, when you can just give 1 a compliment?

While I agree, once 20 or so guys get their stripes it probably won't matter, but the first bunch? If it were me it would mean a lot.

Like, you expect all the stars of the team to get them, like Garrett, Gordan, etc.

Now I'm Howard Wilson, I put together a great day at camp, and I'm the 15th guy to get my stripe. I feel really good walking out on the field at practice that day.

I highly doubt it makes the difference between someone making the team or not, BUT WHY NOT make them feel good when they do something?

They are NFL players, but they are also 20-27 year old humans.

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Meh. I was a jocks jock til I couldn't anymore. Martial arts, Football, Basketball, and Track.

For me it was only, and only about being better than the other guy/team.

Beating the guys that where the best before me, made me want to beat them even more.

Even when I was fighting for money (rough house boxing). I would have done it for free.

So "pride" being key here I think. I would have killed myself trying to earn that stripe.

Then wore as a badge of honor...at least for me that how I attacked sports.


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We don't disagree on all of that stuff. I am just saying this is rinky dink.

Nobody is actually earning anything here. It's not like some guys have no stripes, some have only a white stripe while others have one or two brown stripes.

That could be motivational if you had a guy running around missing one of the Brown stripes.


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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
We don't disagree on all of that stuff. I am just saying this is rinky dink.

Nobody is actually earning anything here. It's not like some guys have no stripes, some have only a white stripe while others have one or two brown stripes.

That could be motivational if you had a guy running around missing one of the Brown stripes.


If I am not mistaken, I do believe that the earning of stripes to be on the practice helmets.

although would be darn funny if this happened

announcer "Well there is Duke and Hyde in the backfield. Duke has both stripes and Hyde said before the game that he is doing everything he can to earn that second stripe."

I would die laughing


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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Not a fan. This seems gimmicky. What, like 80-85% percent of the 53 man roster is already set. To me, earning a hefty salary should be incentive enough to make a roster....not a stripe.

This isn't high school or college.


1. We are talking about players who know only the College environment and not the NFL yet for this to be just an insignificant Rah Rah thing.

2. These are not accountants, they are football players and this stuff still hits home for them.

3. This also gives hope for hard work by UDFA's as it signifies that that they are in the same position as a drafted player. Hard work and competition is open.

4. This will be the hardest earned roster spots I think since 1999...if a 4th round pick slacks off a UDFA can take their spot.

5. I'm curious if anyone knows please educate me. Did Ward get his Stripes? As he was just named/given Starter status moving into the #1 role and reps.

Gimmicky, The game of football is very mental. If they are into it and I see a concerted effort for us to sign players who are FOOTBALL PLAYERS if they are they go for gimmicks and still get Revved up by emotions! $$$ earned is a by product of their love for the game.

Yes, they are now MEN not boys, but its still a GAME where you got to be a little boy in loving the game... wink We want football players not professionals earning a salary!

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Eo, nobody earns their stripes until they make the team, so no, Ward hasn't earned his stripes.


That is the point. It's pretty meaningless.


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I think this could gain some degree of meaning IF the guys who everyone knows will make the team, practice with the stripes on their helmets. Call it like it is...might be refreshing and separates from college.

OR if you want it to be like college, apply small parts of the stripe for attaboys in TC...which I would hate.

It's a time-filler and this year's mantra of sorts...for me, it's essentially nothing.

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I agree.

It's not a bad thing. It won't have a negative impact. I just think it foolish to tell a guy like Bitonio or Garrett they have to earn their stripes.

I think they already know that.


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Wasn't it reserved just for Rookies. Bitonio and Garrett already have theirs...or are you stating when they were rookies there was no question about it?

Same would be for BM, Ward and Chubb...pretty much all know that they are making the team, best thing is that all 3 have a reputation of working hard at the game so it merits the Gimmee status as part of the roster. Not a big thing we can guess but still hey its like some sort of Blue Ribbon of winning a roster spot. For the bottom of the draft and UDFA it will mean a lot to them. Of course the pay check for UDFA will also be a big reward.

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The way I understand it, Joe Thomas or Jim Brown wouldn't have their stripes until they made the team.

At this point it is just a bunch of pumpkin heads running around.


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You're right, just saw vets at OTA's and nobody had stripes, TT, Garrett ehhh, I guess there is some meaning to it you never know what can get the team to become just that A TEAM it could be little things like this giving them some connection with each other. I get it. Doesn't mean its a slam dunk in what they were looking for. But you never know.

The theme might be Competition and everyone has a shot, don't care how it looks, if it makes us 1% better than I'm all for it. Can't hurt.

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I don't really think the helmet stripe is going to motivate anybody but I don't really think it's harmful either. Maybe they will give players something to work towards together and help build the team little bit. It does on paper at least show that everybody starting out equally.

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It won't hurt anything.

We will probably get tired of hearing people talk about earning their stripes by the end of Hard Knocks.


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A large part of our team was in college a year or 2 ago. They are probably still used to this kind of thing. Taylor, Hyde, Fells ... these guys have been around for a while. They are probably amused by it, but I bet it is, at least, a little bit of motivation to the younger guys who had to earn buckeyes, bones, paw prints, and so forth.


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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
It won't hurt anything.

We will probably get tired of hearing people talk about earning their stripes by the end of Hard Knocks.


And it's kind of odd that we hadn't heard of any such gimmicks until Hard Knocks came to town. I'm not a fan of it.


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yeah, how many times will the phrase "earned his stripes" be muttered on Hard Knocks? Over/Under 10


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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yeah, how many times will the phrase "earned his stripes" be muttered on Hard Knocks? Over/Under 10


Maybe it'll end up being a drinking game like:

The Austin 'Throw the Hammer Down/Deep in the Q" Carr Drinking Game

or

"Have a Drink on Me/ AC/DC" drinking game.

or

"Drink Anytime That Kid From Dazed and Confused Touches His nose" drinking game

Taking Hard Knocks to a whole new level this summer! rofl


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last year we drank every time Kizer turned it over ... and you had to take 2 shots every time he did so in the Red Zone

hammered by half


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
last year we drank every time Kizer turned it over ... and you had to take 2 shots every time he did so in the Red Zone

hammered by half


I could get drunk off the cheapest beer following those rules hahaha..

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last year we drank every time Kizer turned it over ... and you had to take 2 shots every time he did so in the Red Zone

hammered by half


I could get drunk off the cheapest beer following those rules hahaha..
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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