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Mature and dedicated stand out to me as huge IFs...

A nearly certain HOF career up in smoke... literally.

Hope he's on track to stay for reasons well beyond football.

Gordon actually gets to play with another top notch WR on the outside. He will still get doubled, but having actual weapons and a QB who can deliver accurate passes is gonna do wonders for Gordon.

Save injury, as long as he makes it to week one, I think he’s gonna have a big year.

I have more hope for Gordon than I have ever had. I never once believed him before. This time, it seems a little different. I wouldn't say I have faith in him staying clean, but I believe there's a decent chance of it.

I think we all know he is a special talent as WR. You say "the most talented" and I think some people might confuse that w/him being the "best." I am not so sure about that.

Yes, he has mad physical gifts. Tall, fluid, fast, athletic, large catching radius, etc. However, there are other things that go into making you one of the games "best" wide receivers.

As of right now, Gordon is not the route runner others are. He isn't as disciplined w/the route tree as he should be. He doesn't always give a high effort. He isn't a great blocker. His hands are good, but he does drop too many balls. Thus, I think he has a ways to go before we can say he is "the best" or even "one of the best."

With that said, he is a great talent and has the potential to be elite. He can certainly impact games unlike any skill player since our rebirth. I'm hoping he makes it this time and realizes his vast potential.

Maybe his hands and route discipline will improve when he’s sober on the field.
Here’s to hope.
I’m rooting for the kid.

This Callaway kid is supposed to be as good as Gordon, think about that...

runs wrong routs and halfass it on the field?

And we all know the history on Landry... We SHOULD be stacked at WR

...

If Gordon wasn’t such a bafoon and actually even PLAYED IN COLLEGE he would have been the best prospect to come out since Megatron ... we took Flash in rnd 2 of the supplemental witch means we made him our 2nd rnd pick for the year after we drafted him ... and Josh didn’t pay a game in college for his last 2 years ... crap ... i think he may have only played one year in college ....

What Calloway did wrong in college made him look like an angel compared to Josh and he lasted til when????

Flash is a FREAK ... he had the physical tools to be one of if not the best ever if he decided to apply himself and work ... he took a different route ... *L* ...

If Calloway was projected to be anywhere near Josh ON THE FIELD he would still have went in rnd 2 at the latest ...

Still not holding my breath.

One thing I'm worried about with Gordon is that season that he came back without knowing the playbook.

Haley's offense is very complicated for the WR's to learn. Some really good WR's could never figure out how to play in the E/P system. He's going to have to keep his nose in the playbook to pick this offense up. He seems to be committed to do what he needs physically, I just hope that he does the same mentally.

JG breaking twitter with this pic this morning.

Looks like what Photoshop tries to get to LOL.

What an impressive looking player! Hope he stays focused for us!

David Boston-esk.
Hope he doesn’t get too musclebound.
Stay limber Josh. Do yoga. Stretch.

I'm pretty sure he does do yoga as well. I think one of his recent twitter posts alluded to it.

J/C

He seems to be in a pretty good place. I look forward to what he brings to our O.

So I am assuming he didnt sell a whole lotta cars during his time off

Hes got muscles on top of muscles ...

He reminds me of TO back in the day ... i remember walking into the stick (i always went in as soon as the gates opened at all visitors stadiums) ... and seeing TO out there with just his football pants on and no shirt ... my jaw dropped ... he looked like a men amongst boys except this time th boys were other NFL players ..

I had never seen such a physical specimen in pics or person .. i was AWED ...

This reminds me of that day ... WOW .... dudes beyond ripped ...

j/c

We saw Josh give us one great "partial season" out of his entire career as a Cleveland Brown. I'm sure we all hope he can recapture that same level. It's been a while.

Saw him in Training Camp the year we drafted Johnny. He was a man among boys out there. He's just huge and towers over folks.

If he keeps his head out of his butt, he will be the highest paid WR in the NFL next year or the next. If he starts hot, we'd be foolish to not try to extend him on a long-term contract with contingencies to stay clean.

That would be foolish, nobody is going to risk on a player that is one suspension away from ending his career...

He had half of a good season... still has a lot to prove.

Untrue...someone will give him a large, not huge contract with contingencies to stay clean.

4 year 65mm with 30 or so guaranteed as long as he doesn't fail a test and a few million up front.

This would be a safe play if we have an out if she were to fail a drug test.

He will be an RFA next year, so we can tender him with the highest tender, if he stays clean. (or franchise him, if we want) There is no need to worry about getting him signed long term yet, Let him prove that he has beaten his demons.

I just cannot possibly agree more.

I know Gordon is ripped, but is that photo shopped? The left arm looks weird.

Dunno, it's straight from his insta.

Good comparison ... I see the same thing.

I agree, JG is ripped, but that is a little over the top.

*L* ... thats why i said it looks like he has muscles on top of muscles ...

Just imagine being a 5’10” or 5’11” corner staring at that coming at you.
If JG reaches his potential there’s not a defensive back in the league that can stop him from producing.

The guy is with us for the next two years, no matter what. After that, we can use the franchise tag on him if we want.

He's a ERFA this year and a RFA next year. We're the only team with rights to him.

If he dominates this year (big if), then we should probably sign him to an extension. We don't want another team dictating his contract situation. In other words, we don't want to slap him with a second round tender, a price many teams would be willing to pay for a not suspended Josh Gordon, and have someone Alex Mack us.

I follow Gordon on Instagram and he really has been putting his best foot forward from what I can see.

I think he is going to have a big year.

Sure beats Andre Smith.

I just can't even imagine them trying to use press coverage on Josh. He ought to be able to pancake any DB that even tries. That alone should create space for him to catch balls galore.

And quoting Dylan Thomas no less.

I think he lifted a few.

I always thought if I were an NFL exec I would ask for blood testing at the combine if they were willing to submit to it. If Gordon is not taking PEDs (which is unlikely given how often he gets tested) that guys natural testosterone has to be through the roof. I'm talking on a normal range is 300-1100 the dude has to be AT 1100 to get that big.

Knowing how much test is in these guys at 20 years old would be immensely beneficial for projecting their success.

I digress, he looks great.

Hope you are right. Josh has several motivators-1) long time security for himself AND his family (however you define it), 2) his teammates- he owes them and city a non-drug inducted season. All indications are he's matured and doing the right thing- hope for him and us it continues....GO Browns!!!