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Man this sucks. Loved his Parts Unknown show. His ability to share world cultures through food.
He’ll be missed.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/06/08/us/anthony-bourdain-obit/index.html


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I just added this to the Kate Spade thread before seeing it was given it's own thread.. my bad.


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I wonder about this one. Was it suicide truly or was a one drink too many and a sleeping pill at the end of a long day of shooting his show? Not that it really matters as in the end the result is tragically the same.


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He traveled the world making an American T.V. show. ("No Reservations")

It is reported suicide, he didn't seem like a suicide type.

Ya, I'm skeptical of if things are as they say, as always. Julia Child was also an American, non threatening entertainer about food, for several years and later everyone learned Julia Child was a spy.

Not saying someone around the world, anyone, or any group might seek to off a famous person which travels the world making an American T.V. show about the cities he travels too because of, well, spyery, but you never know.

It's sad, he was real easy to listen to explain on his t.v. shows and came across as a genuine good personality.
If you asked me who I suspect might be a spy, he wouldn't be the first to come to mind, it would be Jeremy Wade, the "fish monsters" guy, but nobody knows.

All we know is Bourdain is dead, apparent suicide, that is sad.

He once said on his show that the USA has only two real cities, New York, and Chicago,

but then he spent time all over the world, sometimes in Asian or South American cities filled with many millions of people from all over the world, so that might have skewed his opinion.

Would have liked to think a person like Anthony Bourdain would be able to retire to some exotic place, maybe in the far east, and live out his old age playing chess at a busy streetside café, drinking yak milk or something like that.

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How many times have I said "Man I wish I had this guys life/job".

Apparently not. RIP

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RIP. The man seemed to have many friends and acquaintances around the globe....I actually liked his Food network show better. Too sad.


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He traveled the world making an American T.V. show. ("No Reservations")

It is reported suicide, he didn't seem like a suicide type.
Not to be combative, but that is the problem with a lot of people in today's society. There is not a "suicide type". One thing that is certain, is that mental health issues can effect anyone, and everyone - and what we see on the outside has NO BEARING to what a person is going through on the inside.

Please take a stroll to the Kate Spade thread, it may be eye opening for you and others.

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Originally Posted By: PortlandDawg
I wonder about this one. Was it suicide truly or was a one drink too many and a sleeping pill at the end of a long day of shooting his show? Not that it really matters as in the end the result is tragically the same.


Was there anything said about pills or booze? I can't find many details on the matter.

Either way, it's sad.


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I am absolutely gutted. Just gutted. I absolutely loved his shows and his personality. I learned more about the world from his shows than any other source.

I can't believe this.

RIP Mr. Bourdain. frown frown frown


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Originally Posted By: PortlandDawg
I wonder about this one. Was it suicide truly or was a one drink too many and a sleeping pill at the end of a long day of shooting his show? Not that it really matters as in the end the result is tragically the same.


Was there anything said about pills or booze? I can't find many details on the matter.

Either way, it's sad.


No. Nothing was said. Didn’t mean to imply.

It was more about how he’s known to have a few drinks on his show. I also know that when traveling internationally using sleeping pills to get converted to a new time zone is common.
So my statement was just based off this.
It wasn’t meant as breaking news. Hope I didn’t add confusion.


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I read that he hung himself.


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I read that he hung himself.



Pretty good indication of suicide.

I wonder what is is that compelled him, and others to do this sort of thing?


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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
I read that he hung himself.


Ugh. Tragic.


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Wow, I'm a bit floored by this. While I have no idea how good of a chef he was, he was certainly amazing at what he did.

Anyone who watched his shows knows he had demons, it is sad that they got the better of him. Rest in Peace Tony.

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quote above by 'peen:

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I wonder what it is that compelled him, and others to do this sort of thing?


I can tell you. Completely understandable.

Here's how it works (with an example!).

For the vast majority of people, our bodies start losing a lot of function as we age. Some at 50. Some at 60. Some don't lose a lot of function because they weren't using their bodies a lot to begin with.

This sucks. Especially with normally energetic people. Who want to do a lot of stuff.

Two more things suck:

1) It don't get better. Only worse,
2) The "Life is a roll of toilet paper" rule applies. (the closer you get to the end, the faster it goes). Ain't no joke. It's a fact.

The example:

Yesterday I was talking with a very old lady. She's telling me about her friends and family. "They're all gone. I'm the last one." I asked her if she was glad to be the last one.

She didn't answer "yes".


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Not always true. My Dad is in his mid 70s. He works out, plays handball, has a gf, leads a very active lifestyle, goes to Europe / cruises every year. He is more prone to catching an illness. That is it. He is going out swinging.


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Not always true. My Dad is in his mid 70s. He works out, plays handball, has a gf, leads a very active lifestyle, goes to Europe / cruises every year. He is more prone to catching an illness. That is it. He is going out swinging.


Not my point. So your dad's doing great. Good genes. Good attitude. And especially - Good Luck.

What if he didn't have a choice?

Many debilitating things in life are indiscriminate. (accidents, sickness)

For instance, sounds like your dad would be the last to tolerate 24 hour care. Spending life dependent on others 24 hours a day. Every day.

Would he like to be propped up in front of a TV every waking moment? Waiting for someone to feed him? To change his diaper?

Nursing homes are filled with younger people than your dad like this.

Would he "go out swinging"?

Or would he rather be dead?

Why don't you ask him?

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Wow, I'm a bit floored by this. While I have no idea how good of a chef he was, he was certainly amazing at what he did.

Anyone who watched his shows knows he had demons, it is sad that they got the better of him. Rest in Peace Tony.


It seemed like he was happy-but he probably wasn't. I really enjoyed him-sometimes a smart ass but real and he said what he was thinking.

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CDC: U.S. Suicide Rates Have Climbed Dramatically




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Suicide rates have increased in nearly every state over the past two decades, and half of the states have seen suicide rates go up more than 30 percent.

Suicide is a major public health issue, accounting for nearly 45,000 deaths in 2016 alone. That is why the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta decided to take a comprehensive look at suicides from 1999 to 2016.

"Suicide in this country really is a problem that is impacted by so many factors. It's not just a mental health concern," says Deborah Stone, a behavioral scientist at the CDC and the lead author of the new study. "There are many different circumstances and factors that contribute to suicide. And so that's one of the things that this study really shows us. It points to the need for a comprehensive approach to prevention."

She and her colleagues collected data on suicides from every state. In addition, to better understand the circumstances surrounding suicide, they turned to more detailed information collected by 27 states on suicides that occurred in 2015.



If you or someone you know may be considering suicide, contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255 (En Español: 1-888-628-9454; Deaf and Hard of Hearing: 1-800-799-4889) or the Crisis Text Line by texting 741741.

The rise in suicide rates was highest in the central, northern region of the U.S., with North Dakota, for example, seeing a 57.6 percent increase since 1999. Nevada was the only state that saw no increase, and Delaware saw the smallest increase which was 5.9 percent.


The findings were published in the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

Guns were the most common method used for suicide, accounting for almost half of the people who died.

Often, the suicide seemed to happen without warning: 54 percent of the people who killed themselves didn't have a previously known mental health issue. "Instead, these folks were suffering from other issues, such as relationship problems, substance misuse, physical health problems, job or financial problems, and recent crises or things that were coming up in their lives that they were anticipating," says Stone.

Researchers and advocacy groups who work to prevent suicide say the report shows that much more needs to be done to tackle this growing problem.

"None of this is surprising information, which is not to trivialize its importance. I think it captures a lot of trends that we've been becoming more and more aware of over recent years," says psychologist Michael Anestis at the University of Southern Mississippi, who researches suicide and is the author of Guns and Suicide: An American Epidemic.

He thinks the general public commonly pictures someone who had been getting treatment for a long period before killing themselves, like fashion designer Kate Spade, who died this week, but that's often not the case.

That means any public health effort to reduce suicides can't solely focus on those who have reached out for help. It has to be paired with measures that would make suicidal people less likely to die even if they never went to see a doctor.


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Gun Studies: Permit Laws Reduce Murders; Red Flag Laws Cut Suicides

The CDC report cites several different approaches, such as working to stabilize housing and teaching coping and problem-solving skills early in life.

The report also cites the need to reduce "access to lethal means" but without explicitly discussing firearms or controversial issues such as gun control legislation. Asked whether that was a deliberate omission, because of the political climate surrounding gun control, Stone said that suicide rates have been increasing across all methods.

"So it's not just about firearms, it's also about other methods of suicide such as hanging, suffocation, poisoning and the like," she said. "We are concerned with all aspects of suicide prevention, including access to lethal means, and so we do include that in a comprehensive approach to suicide prevention."

But Anestis believes that it's important to not beat around the bush when it comes to guns and to talk about the importance of things like setting waiting periods for purchase, and storing guns locked and unloaded.

"American suicide is predominantly a firearm issue. Anytime we want to resolve something that involves firearms, we've need to talk about firearms explicitly," he says. "The conversation about firearms and suicide doesn't have to be a debate about the Second Amendment. It could be a debate about where can we find some common ground that doesn't simply involve only talking about people with mental illnesses, because as this paper shows, that's not going to get the job done."

Research shows that the decision to attempt suicide is often made quickly, in an impulsive way, says Robert Gebbia, the head of the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention.

"You may be thinking about it over time, but that moment when you actually make an attempt is a very short window," he explains. "If you could make it harder to make that attempt by not having access to the means, often what happens is the feelings will pass, it gives people time for someone to intervene and get them help, so that is a really important preventative step that can be done. And there's good research to support that."

Suicide researchers already know a lot of the information in this new report, says Gebbia, "but the public doesn't. And so a report like this really draws attention to the fact that we need to do a whole lot more to prevent suicide, to save lives."

He points out, for example, that the nation currently has no federally funded suicide prevention program for adults. "There are some for youth, but they're very, very tiny," says Gebbia. "We can't expect a major public health problem like this to be addressed unless we see the investment."

The CDC said that people can learn about warning signs of suicide to help people at risk. One resource is the website: www.BeThe1to.com. To reach the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline, call 1-800-273-TALK (8255).

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I wouldn't call suicide over a certain age (certain condition really) a "health issue".

I wish I could call it "An Option".

I mean a doctor-assisted, pleasant final moments Option.

Maybe pleasantly high the final moments (minutes? hours?).

Only very rich, smart people get this option now.

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It's sad for me to see this. What I've known for some time is that the person you see on camera, may not, in any way reflect who a person is or what is in their mind. It seems that's certainly the case here.

I thought his show was wonderful. The main reason I felt so was that on the news we see about a nations government. They often times try to tell us what's in the mind of their people. But when you watched his show you actually saw real people in other parts of the world. It gave you a glimpse that people are people everywhere. We all want the same things and have the same desires.

That was a refreshing thing to see and brought the human element up close and personal. It's really quite sad.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
It's sad for me to see this. What I've known for some time is that the person you see on camera, may not, in any way reflect who a person is or what is in their mind. It seems that's certainly the case here.

I thought his show was wonderful. The main reason I felt so was that on the news we see about a nations government. They often times try to tell us what's in the mind of their people. But when you watched his show you actually saw real people in other parts of the world. It gave you a glimpse that people are people everywhere. We all want the same things and have the same desires.

That was a refreshing thing to see and brought the human element up close and personal. It's really quite sad.


Agreed. His show was actually not about food per se. It was a show about different cultures. Using food as a bridge to show the world as a small place with many people of many walks of life experiencing the human condition.
It was a great show. It’ll be missed.
Tony will be missed.


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I've been a big fan of his shows. He was a terrible drug addict and was able to turn his life around, become a success and continue drinking too (which I thought was odd).

As Portland said, most of his shows use food as a backdrop to the locations culture and political climate. I found them all fascinating.

RIP Tony, RIP.


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Strange. I couldn't find anything that would remotely hint to Bourdain's suicide.

It seems he was very busy. No mention of any thing catastrophic in his life.

He most certainly was at least bisexual. That wouldn't be too much of a problem today.

It is extremely unlikely that there's been a heterosexual chef in Provincetown in the last 50 years. Yeah, I know he was married a few times.

And the college he attended for awhile - Vassar - was an all women's college until 1969. (I know - smart move. I would have gladly attended an all girls school too. But not because I identified with the girls. (although, I suppose I would have said that))(Fine...I'm a pig.)

I wonder what we're not being told.

Bourdain with the guy that found him died.



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"Anthony Bourdain, the host of “Parts Unknown” on liberal CNN, said last week (Sept 14, 2017) that he would poison Donald Trump if the celebrity chef was asked to cater a peace summit between the President and Kim Jong Un". What an entertaining guy!

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/201...ok-for-him.html

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As I said earlier, the man had demons and he talked of them frequently. He suffered from depression, bouts that lasted for days. Other times he talked about being alone and isolated, despite not physically being alone. He talked about his heroin issues, and being overly nervous. I'm sure there's more, that's all I can remember off the top of my head.

All of these can hint to suicide.

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Originally Posted By: fishtheice
"Anthony Bourdain, the host of “Parts Unknown” on liberal CNN, said last week (Sept 14, 2017) that he would poison Donald Trump if the celebrity chef was asked to cater a peace summit between the President and Kim Jong Un". What an entertaining guy!

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/201...ok-for-him.html


Awesomely entertaining.
You voted for a guy that said he could stand in the street and shoot people and not lose votes. A guy that has committed sexual assault. A guy that is a crooked businessman.
So you don’t get to be bent out of shape that a celebrity chef said something bad about the crook in chief...while you stand by and support said crook in chief.
Take your faux outrage elsewhere.

RIP Tony.


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I liked his shows too...they were entertaining. I mean, they never really delved below the surface and told you anything deep and meaningful about the countries or the culture, but I loved how ridiculous some of his descriptions were. For instance, sitting in Morocco or some place eating a bowl of food that is both rich in color and texture and vividly and expressively comparing it to the best acid trip he ever had. That's what made the show different from the all the other foodie programs.

BUT, I will be honest...I also found them somewhat uncomfortable viewing...especially when he was filming in a very poor country. Millionaire, white American guy sitting there being filmed eating a plate of food talking about how delicious it is. Then flying off to another country and doing the same thing. I don't know...it always seemed a bit of an uncomfortable premise to me.

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Millionaire, white American guy sitting there being filmed eating a plate of food talking about how delicious it is.





Andrew doesn’t talk of how delicious things are. He talks trying to convince viewers how delicious non delicious things are. Lol
Mmmmm raw platapus eggs?... divine! Boiled giraffe eyes wrapped in goat intestine? Why, yes, I’ll have another! Whole fried baby sparrow... I’d be a fool to say no!


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That barely counts as food...let alone delicious.
Toxic garbage, fried...with high fructose corn syrup dipping sauce...and a 32oz jug of high fructose corn syrup to wash it down. Cancer in a bag. Served through a window.


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That barely counts as food...let alone delicious.
Toxic garbage, fried...with high fructose corn syrup dipping sauce...and a 32oz jug of high fructose corn syrup to wash it down. Cancer in a bag. Served through a window.


High fructose corn syrup is of the devil.

Man, that stuff is just awful for any human being's health. It's in all kinds of stuff, from soft drinks, to bread, and everything in between. Sugar's not great for you in large quantities, but I'd rather eat a cup of sugar than a quarter cup of high fructose corn syrup.

High fructose corn syrup turns to fat far faster than sugar does. The body doesn't know how to process it, so it just stores it as fat. It can contribute to cancer risk, diabetes, high blood pressure, increased cholesterol levels, (all diseases that are fat related) and so on. However, because it is very cheap, and sweetens more than sugar does, it's used as a cost efficient solution, and who cares what it does to the customers?

The stuff is so bad that it really is unconscionable that it is used so widely. The encouraging thing is that I see more and more products with "no high fructose corn syrup" on their labels.


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