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Here lately I've had more concerns than ever before about a party who claims to have Christian values, who claims to have family values and then supports such a vile man who has nothing in common with everything they claim to stand for.


They support him because he's not Hillary. If Trump said anything right, it was when he said he could shoot a person dead in 5th avenue and not lose support.


And ... "Russia if you're listening,?"....(You know the rest)


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The trumpian psyche is like an orwellian fractal composed of selflothing embellishments, nonsensical logic, fascist nationalism, unabashed ignorance, panophobia, confirmation bias, zealotism, and an incessant quest for validation. How does one rationalize with that?

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Mitch McConnell says all GOP senators want to stop family separation; Senate aims for a fix this week
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/19/immigration-hawk-sen-ted-cruz.html

President Trump said what he needs from Congress is legislation allowing him to detain and remove families as a unit without having to separate the children.

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And what are they going to ask for in return? Hmmmmmmm...


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Mitch McConnell says all GOP senators want to stop family separation; Senate aims for a fix this week
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/19/immigration-hawk-sen-ted-cruz.html

President Trump said what he needs from Congress is legislation allowing him to detain and remove families as a unit without having to separate the children.


They'll put forward some garbage legislation that has zero chance of approval from the left to help trump spread his lie that this is all the dems fault... Trump made the policy and could end it with a phone call or the stroke of his pen, no need for an act of congress.

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Because a 1997 legal agreement and related policies say children cannot be jailed with adults for extended periods, the administration is separating the families.

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‘At Least During the Internment …’ Are Words I Thought I’d Never Utter
I was sent to a camp at just 5 years old — but even then, they didn't separate children from families.
BY GEORGE TAKEI | JUNE 19, 2018, 9:00 AM
Left: A Japanese-American woman holds her sleeping daughter as they prepare to leave their home for an internment camp in 1942.
Right: Japanese-Americans interned at the Santa Anita Assembly Center at the Santa Anita racetrack near Los Angeles in 1942. (Library of Congress/Corbis/VCG via Getty Images/Foreign Policy illustration)
Left: A Japanese-American woman holds her sleeping daughter as they prepare to leave their home for an internment camp in 1942. Right: Japanese-Americans interned at the Santa Anita Assembly Center at the Santa Anita racetrack near Los Angeles in 1942. (Library of Congress/Corbis/VCG via Getty Images/Foreign Policy illustration)
Imagine this scene: Tens of thousands of people, mostly families with children, are labeled by the government as a threat to our nation, used as political tools by opportunistic politicians, and caught in a vast gray zone where their civil and human rights are erased by the presumption of universal guilt. Thousands are moved around to makeshift detention centers and sites, where camps are thrown together with more regard to the bottom line than the humanity of the new residents.

That is America today, at our southern border, which asylum-seekers and undocumented migrants alike are seeking to cross. But it is also America in late 1941, in the aftermath of Pearl Harbor, when overnight my community, my family, and I became the enemy because we happened to look like those who had dropped the bombs. And yet, in one core, horrifying way this is worse. At least during the internment of Japanese-Americans, I and other children were not stripped from our parents. We were not pulled screaming from our mothers’ arms. We were not left to change the diapers of younger children by ourselves.

Photos of children in cages and camps today so strongly evoke the wartime past that former First Lady Laura Bush drew a stark parallel in an op-ed in the Washington Post. “These images are eerily reminiscent of the Japanese American internment camps of World War II, now considered to have been one of the most shameful episodes in U.S. history,” Bush wrote. She reminded us that there are dark consequences to such camps for their residents: “This treatment inflicts trauma; interned Japanese have been two times as likely to suffer cardiovascular disease or die prematurely than those who were not interned.”

When a government acts capriciously, especially against a powerless and much-reviled group, it is hard to describe the terror and anxiety. There is nowhere to turn, because the only people with the power to help have trained their guns and dogs upon you. You are without rights, held without charge or trial. The world is upside down, information-less, and indifferent or even hostile to your plight.

And yet, with hideous irony, I can still say, “At least during the internment …”

At least during the internment, when I was just 5 years old, I was not taken from my parents.At least during the internment, when I was just 5 years old, I was not taken from my parents. My family was sent to a racetrack for several weeks to live in a horse stall, but at least we had each other. At least during the internment, my parents were able to place themselves between the horror of what we were facing and my own childish understanding of our circumstances. They told us we were “going on a vacation to live with the horsies.” And when we got to Rohwer camp, they again put themselves between us and the horror, so that we would never fully appreciate the grim reality of the mosquito-infested swamp into which we had been thrown. At least during the internment, we remained a family, and I credit that alone for keeping the scars of our unjust imprisonment from deepening on my soul.
I cannot for a moment imagine what my childhood would have been like had I been thrown into a camp without my parents. That this is happening today fills me with both rage and grief: rage toward a failed political leadership who appear to have lost even their most basic humanity, and a profound grief for the families affected.

How do political leaders convince themselves of the virtues of such a policy? History shows it doesn’t take much. After Japan dropped its bombs, the political scapegoats were obvious. As America geared up for war, the administration needed some way to show that it was being tough on Japan, as it had little military success at the early going to trot out. Being tough on Japan easily translated into being tough on the Japanese here in America. No matter that most of us weren’t even Japanese nationals; nearly two-thirds of those imprisoned were U.S. citizens, after all. But as the Wartime Relocation Authority made clear, “a Jap is a Jap.” That was their own “zero-tolerance” policy.

But how to justify the sweeping internment of 120,000 people, when none of us had actually done anything wrong?But how to justify the sweeping internment of 120,000 people, when none of us had actually done anything wrong? It was Earl Warren — the same man who as chief justice would forge a famously liberal Supreme Court — who helped move that along. Warren was the attorney general for the state of California at the time, and he had designs on the governorship, which he won in late in 1942. Warren took the absence of evidence of sabotage or spying on the West Coast by any Japanese-American as justification to declare that this was evidence that we must be planning something truly hidden and deeply sinister.
It was a lie, and a big one, but it was one repeated enough, and said with enough conviction, that rest of the country went along with it. We were the murderers, the thugs, the animals then — and since you couldn’t tell the good from the bad, you might as well round up everyone in the name of national security.

Whenever I draw parallels between today’s border actions and the internment camps of World War II, I am flooded with comments “reminding me” that it was a Democrat, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who signed Executive Order 9066 and set the internment into motion. This only underscores my point, however: The United States’ flirtation with authoritarianism is not tied to any political party. Even people of good heart and conscience can be swept up in the frenzy. Earl Warren was a Republican, and while he ultimately came to view his role in the internment to be one of his greatest follies, at the time neither he nor others in government — with rare exceptions, like Ralph Carr, the governor of Colorado — saw anything wrong with what he’d done.

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But unless we act now, we will have failed to learn at all from our past mistakes. Once again, we are flinging ourselves into a world of camps and fences and racist imagery — and lies just big enough to stick.Once again, we are flinging ourselves into a world of camps and fences and racist imagery — and lies just big enough to stick.
There are at least two big lies right now. The first is that there’s a law on the books passed by the Democrats, and that the Justice Department has no choice but to enforce it. This lie passes the buck and confuses the public, offering a diversionary talking point to dutiful lieutenants willing to toe the White House line. Like FDR, Donald Trump has wide latitude in setting the priorities of law enforcement, and there is no law that says we must have “zero tolerance” for children at our borders, just as there was nothing that said all persons of Japanese descent, even children within orphanages, were to be rounded up and relocated.

The second lie is that those at our borders are criminals, and therefore deserve no rights. But the asylum-seekers at our borders are breaking no laws at all, nor are their children who accompany them. The broad brush of “criminal” today raises echoes of the wartime “enemy” to my ears. Once painted, both marks are impossible to wash off. Trump prepared his followers for this day long ago, when he began to dehumanize Mexican migrants as drug dealers, rapists, murderers, and animals. Animals might belong in cages. Humans don’t.

I wish that those, like me, who lived through this nightmare before didn’t have to sound the alarm againI wish that those, like me, who lived through this nightmare before didn’t have to sound the alarm again. But as my father once told me, America is a great nation but also a fallible one — as prone to great mistakes as are the people who inhabit it. As a survivor of internment camps, I have made it my lifelong mission to work against them being built ever again within our borders.
Although the first camps for border crossers have been built, and are now filling up with innocent children, we have a chance to ensure history does not repeat itself in full, to demonstrate that we have learned from our past and to stand firmly against our worse natures. The internment happened because of fear and hatred, but also because of a failure of political leadership. In 1941, there were few politicians who dared stand up to the internment order. I am hopeful that today there will, should be, must be, far more people who speak up, both among our leaders and the public, and that the future writes the history of our resistance — not, yet again, of our compliance.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Because a 1997 legal agreement and related policies say children cannot be jailed with adults for extended periods, the administration is separating the families.



And yet no president has asked for such a zero tolerance policy until Trump. So now that he created the situation, let's blame others?


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So crossing the border with your children is somehow child abuse?
when they are riding atop moving trains, locked in trunks, and send with pedophiles promising "safe passage" yes.

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
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Because a 1997 legal agreement and related policies say children cannot be jailed with adults for extended periods, the administration is separating the families.



And yet no president has asked for such a zero tolerance policy until Trump. So now that he created the situation, let's blame others?


So you support opening the floodgates for illegals to enter the US?
Opening them 50%?
Opening them 25%?

What will it take to make you stop crying?

If they show up at points of entry, no one is arrested.
If they try to steal their way in, they get arrested and their children turned over to HHS for safe keeping.

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Mitch McConnell says all GOP senators want to stop family separation; Senate aims for a fix this week
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/19/immigration-hawk-sen-ted-cruz.html

President Trump said what he needs from Congress is legislation allowing him to detain and remove families as a unit without having to separate the children.


They'll put forward some garbage legislation that has zero chance of approval from the left to help trump spread his lie that this is all the dems fault... Trump made the policy and could end it with a phone call or the stroke of his pen, no need for an act of congress.
So we agree that passing legislation is what we are supposed to do, and not govern by a pen, because well, as Trump has shown you - when you govern by a pen, it can be erased. Lets try governing by the rule of law for once, heh?

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Because a 1997 legal agreement and related policies say children cannot be jailed with adults for extended periods, the administration is separating the families.



And yet no president has asked for such a zero tolerance policy until Trump. So now that he created the situation, let's blame others?


So you support opening the floodgates for illegals to enter the US?
Opening them 50%?
Opening them 25%?

What will it take to make you stop crying?

If they show up at points of entry, no one is arrested.
If they try to steal their way in, they get arrested and their children turned over to HHS for safe keeping.


Why not, beats supporting needlessly hurting innocent kids! You condone child abuse, that's who YOU ARE!

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The Trump administration has likely lost track of nearly 6,000 unaccompanied migrant children, thousands more than lawmakers were alerted to last month, according to a McClatchy review of federal data.

Federal officials acknowledged last month that nearly 1,500 unaccompanied minors arrived on the southern border alone without their parents and were placed with sponsors who did not keep in touch with federal officials, but those numbers were only a snapshot of a three- month period during the last fiscal year.

“There is a lot more,” said a field specialist who worked in the Office of Refugee Resettlement until earlier this year and was tasked with reaching out to sponsors and children to check on their well-being. “You can bet that the numbers are higher. It doesn’t really give you a real picture.”

The new estimate comes as backlash widens over President Donald Trump's' decision to separate parents and children. Advocates argue the growing numbers of unaccounted children should be expected as families and sponsors become more fearful of federal officials that is now using information from government social workers to run immigration checks and, in some cases, target sponsors, including parents and family members, for removal.

“To the extent that there are problems for protection of unaccompanied children, this will only become worse as they put more kids in the unaccompanied category by ripping them away from their families,” said Clara Long, U.S. researcher at Human Rights Watch.

The revelation that federal officials couldn’t locate more than 1,000 children set off an outcry of concern and promises from the Trump administration to implement stronger vetting procedures of sponsors, including fingerprinting parents and handing their immigration status to Department of Homeland Security officials.

Federal officials said the children were not actually lost, but their sponsors didn’t respond to phone calls checking on them. They emphasized that Office of Refugee Resettlement is no longer legally responsible for the children once they were placed in a sponsor’s custody.

Since 2014, tens of thousands of unaccompanied children have been apprehended during a surge of Salvadoran, Honduran and Guatemalan mothers and children who have flooded the U.S. border fleeing violence and poverty.

Unaccompanied children are generally turned over to the custody of ORR, which will either care for them in a shelter or release them to a family member.

Last month, the Department of Health and Human Services acknowledged that the location of 1,475 unaccompanied children placed were sponsors couldn’t be determined.

Steven Wagner, acting assistant secretary of the Administration for Children and Families at HHS, told reporters that 14 percent of HHS calls to sponsors were not returned.

But to come up with the 1,475 cases, the administration reached out to only 7,635 children and their sponsors. It placed more than 42,497 unaccompanied children with sponsors in fiscal year 2017.

HHS told McClatchy it didn’t have the data of unaccounted children in a reportable format. But based on its own estimates that 14 percent didn't return calls, some 5,945 unaccompanied children are likely unaccounted for. The numbers would be even higher in fiscal year 2016, which included the end of President Barack Obama’s final term when the administration placed more than 52,000 children with sponsors.

In 2017, ORR released 93 percent of children to a sponsor. Of those, 49 percent were released to parents, 41 percent to close relatives, and 10 percent to other-than-close relatives or non-relatives. So far in fiscal year 2018, the administration released 90 percent of children to individual sponsors and of those sponsors, 41 percent were parents, 47 percent were close relatives, and 11 percent were other-than-close relatives or non-relatives.

HHS officials say it’s not the administration’s legal responsibility to locate those children after they’re turned over to the custody of a family member or approved sponsor. And they add that it’s difficult to keep tabs on sponsors who often also are living in the country illegally, move often, and may not want to be located.

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“You can imagine that many of those would not choose to speak to a federal official calling them on the phone,” Wagner told reporters. “But there’s no reason to believe that anything has happened to the kids. If you call a friend and they don’t answer the phone, you don’t assume that they’ve been kidnapped. So that characterization that the kids are missing is incorrect. And I just want to emphasize that they are not in our custody at the point at which that voluntary phone call is made.”

The reality is the Trump administration — and the Obama administration beforehand — has lost track and continues to lose track of thousands of unaccompanied minors while ORR does not appear to be trying to keep track of the children once they’re placed with sponsors.

Among the 7,635 children and sponsors the administration tried to reach, Wagner said that 6,075 remained with their sponsors. Twenty-eight children had run away, five had been deported, and 52 had been relocated to live with a non-sponsor. ORR was unable to determine with certainty the whereabouts of 1,475.

The field specialist told McClatchy the goal was not only to speak with the sponsor, but specifically with the children. “I’d ask are you sleeping? Have you been eating well? Have you been having nightmares? Do you have your own bed and your own room?” the specialist said.

But they wouldn’t make follow up calls if the sponsor or child didn’t answer. And more and more calls went unanswered, especially in communities where immigration enforcement had recently occurred.

Sen. Rob Portman, an Ohio Republican who serves as chairman of the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, noted in a recent that 1,475 is actually a higher percentage citing that some sponsors did answer phone calls and said they couldn’t locate the children.

“It's actually over 19 percent based on your own data because sometimes you placed a call, you got someone on the line and said I don't know where the kid is,” Portman told Wagner during a recent congressional hearing.

A 2008 law signed by President George W. Bush placed all children who arrive at U.S. borders and ports of entry without a parent or guardian under the care and custody of the Department of Health and Human Services.

Under President Barack Obama this issue grabbed national attention when, in 2015, it was discovered that HHS did not require any meaningful proof that the people who presented themselves as family friends really were who they said they were.

In one high-profile case, HHS allowed six migrant children from Guatemala to be turned over to traffickers who forced them to work in grueling conditions on an Ohio egg farm.

Those McClatchy has spoken with, including case managers, say even the reported numbers are low considering they were called after 30 days. Many more will leave after six months.

“Which means the number of lost kids are being dramatically underrepresented,” said Leon Fresco, a deputy assistant attorney general under Obama. “1,500 is only half the story. It’s one year and we’re not even talking about the entire Trump administration.”

Frank Sharry, executive director of America’s Voice, an immigration advocacy group, said the larger number of unaccounted for children is not surprising.

Sharry said many of the children are placed with family members who are in the United States illegally and may be afraid to speak to federal authorities, even if they are just trying to check on children because of "a climate of fear."

"What’s happened is that ICE has a new policy of going after sponsors," he said. "The bigger story if not that they are losing people - it's that ICE is terrorizing people."


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Wikipedia Added US Border 'Detention Centers' to Its List of Concentration Camps
Alongside Dachau and Japanese internment camps.

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The detention centers along the US-Mexico border housing hundreds of migrant children who have been separated from their parents in the last six weeks are now included in Wikipedia's list of concentration camps, Gizmodo reports. It joins a dishearteningly long list of other sites of atrocity throughout history, from Dachau to the Soviet gulags to America's WWII-era Japanese internment camps.

"As part of the 2018 Trump administration family separation policy, nearly 2,000 immigrant children have been taken from their parents and placed in 'detention centers,'" the new section of the Wikipedia article currently reads. "These centers have been described by those in opposition to the policy as 'concentration camps.' The centers had previously been cited by Texas officials for more than 150 health violations."

The section has, unsurprisingly, ignited a string of debate and revisions since it was first added, with editors of the online encyclopedia arguing about the appropriateness of including these immigrant detention centers alongside Nazi extermination camps like Auschwitz. One user has called for the section to be locked "to prevent vandalism," but it is currently still open for edits.


"No comparison with extermination camps or the Holocaust is being made here," a Wikipedia editor named The Anome wrote in defense of the new addition, arguing that, while the border detainment centers differ from Nazi death camps, they still fit uncomfortably well within the broad definition of concentration and internment camps.

"This is a list of concentration and internment camps, and these are very clearly internment camps," The Anome wrote. "For children. In America. In 2018. For shame."

Even Melania Trump's own immigration lawyer, Michael Wildes, spoke out against the Trump Administration's "zero tolerance" immigration policy, calling it "reminiscent of detention centers of Nazi Germany, of the slave trade" during an interview Tuesday, but Attorney General Jeff Sessions continues to shrug off any attempt to compare the policy to Nazi concentration camps.

"[Nazi comparisons are] a real exaggeration, of course. In Nazi Germany, they were keeping the Jews from leaving the country," Sessions told Fox News' Laura Ingraham Monday night. Ingraham, of course, is the same person who said that the border detention facilities currently holding migrant children are "essentially summer camps."

Unfortunately, all you have to do is listen to the heartbreaking recording of terrified, sobbing children left in detention shelters while the guards crack jokes to know that this is a reprehensible piece of American history and likely deserves its place on Wikipedia's list.


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This is all absolutely horrifying.

It is only furthering destroying Trump to let it continue.

But he doesnt have the common sense to stop it.


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Cages.

Take his golf clubs away. This is horrible. So North Korean-ish. No moral justification for caging kids.

Can't wait to vote.


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The bottom line: It is official US policy to abuse children. Whether you are OK with that or not is up to you. But that is the policy today, and this entire administration created this policy.


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This is the problem with this country. I have read most of the posts....it ranges from people questioning who are real Americans, to white supremacy, to using children as pawns...either way.


Good gosh....just stop.


I said it a page or two back, the problem is with the law. The chambers are working to add clarity. I hope they do in short order. Maybe they all can agree on some things now. Nobody wants to take kids from parents....just stop thinking that.

The President isn't some evil ogre like the Pied Piper who took all the children from the town. He is enforcing the border laws. He should, and by oath is bound to do.

Now we see how our weak border laws and security are creating a crisis.

I hope all the kids get back to their parents shortly. I really mean that, even if I have been called a lot of things thinking I don't feel that way.


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The problem is the Law - yes. Partly. But the law has been the same for multiple administrations ... so the problem isn't REALLY the law ... the problem is TRUMP. Spin it any way you like but those are the facts.


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The problem is the Law - yes. Partly. But the law has been the same for multiple administrations ... so the problem isn't REALLY the law ... the problem is TRUMP. Spin it any way you like but those are the facts.





Ok....in a way, sure.



However, this President is enforcing border laws unlike many administrations before him. That is the fact.


I say it's about time, so no, the problem isn't President Trump.


Obviously you disagree with him enforcing laws, but I and many others don't.


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You said you read many posts ... hopefully you caught mine which was entirely about the law and what makes a Just law and what makes an unjust law ... and there was a paragraph from MLK who summed it up to a tee.

So - when the application of the law (which is subjective, otherwise there wouldn't be this variance in how it has been administered) means inhumanely separating families like this then, no I don't believe it is correct. I think it is disgusting and barbaric. . . . That doesn't mean I want open borders or illegal immigrants to get put up at the Hilton because they have a child in tow ... it means finding a way to send them back and "process" them without torturing little ones. It's not that hard.


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The problem is the Law - yes. Partly. But the law has been the same for multiple administrations ... so the problem isn't REALLY the law ... the problem is TRUMP. Spin it any way you like but those are the facts.





Ok....in a way, sure.



However, this President is enforcing border laws unlike many administrations before him. That is the fact.


I say it's about time, so no, the problem isn't President Trump.


Obviously you disagree with him enforcing laws, but I and many others don't.



Someone who we we won't mention posted this...where was all this outcry, where was all the news stations 24/7 on this?

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Georgia couple loses custody of son after giving him marijuana to treat seizures



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/georgia-cou...linkId=52451272

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I don't know about all that. But I do know this policy is only now an issue because Trump is the president.

The media is out to get him on anything. The libs are out to ignore the past and get him........some damn way, some damn how.
And, I'll be called a Trump "whatever", but honestly, I've never seen a mass media and left wing bias as strong against a person as I have with Trump.

That in no way means he should be able to do whatever he wants............but it sure as heck means he shouldn't be fried because he is allowing what other administrations mandated.

The hate for Trump is so deep it's pathetic. And yeah, I have many people in mind. He could find a cure for cancer..........well, he could fund a cure for cancer, and I guarndamtee you, the haters would say "why the hell did he wait so long to show us?

Ain't a damn thing he's done that has been terrible - unless you listen to the so called "main stream media" that is still butt hurt over him winning an election they said he had no chance of winning.

It's damn sad watching people bitch and gripe about his admin doing what O's and Clintons admins did.

Pathetic.

Honestly? It shows me that people in general, and especially on here? Don't give a rip about 'what', they only care about tearing down the guy that beat their girl.

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I understand the law.

If there is a unjust law, change the law the President is bound to uphold.


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Trump huddles with House GOP on immigration as border outrage escalates

President Trump met with House Republicans Tuesday to discuss immigration legislation as lawmakers searched for a way to end the administration's policy of separating families who illegally cross the U.S.-Mexico border.

After the meeting broke up, the White House announced that Trump had endorsed legislation negotiated between GOP leaders and moderate Republicans that promises to "solve the border crisis and family separation issue by allowing for family detention and removal."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/...-escalates.html

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I understand the law.

If there is a unjust law, change the law the President is bound to uphold.


The separation of the children is a Trump administration policy decision

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Trump huddles with House GOP on immigration as border outrage escalates

President Trump met with House Republicans Tuesday to discuss immigration legislation as lawmakers searched for a way to end the administration's policy of separating families who illegally cross the U.S.-Mexico border.

After the meeting broke up, the White House announced that Trump had endorsed legislation negotiated between GOP leaders and moderate Republicans that promises to "solve the border crisis and family separation issue by allowing for family detention and removal."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/...-escalates.html


Just going to try and set dems up to look bad... won't work. Trump made this mess, dems say he can fix it on his own. 1 phone call, done.

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I think it's a sad say when anyone condones child abuse for political gain. If you support Trump, that's who YOU ARE.

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Trump huddles with House GOP on immigration as border outrage escalates

President Trump met with House Republicans Tuesday to discuss immigration legislation as lawmakers searched for a way to end the administration's policy of separating families who illegally cross the U.S.-Mexico border.

After the meeting broke up, the White House announced that Trump had endorsed legislation negotiated between GOP leaders and moderate Republicans that promises to "solve the border crisis and family separation issue by allowing for family detention and removal."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/...-escalates.html


Just going to try and set dems up to look bad... won't work. Trump made this mess, dems say he can fix it on his own. 1 phone call, done.


A phone call is not law, legislation passed by Congress and signed by the President is law.

Are you holding these kids hostage now because your Democrats won't pass this simple law?
Shame!

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Any outcry 24/7 news coverage or because they can't link it to Trump the story will fade away unnoticed?

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Trump huddles with House GOP on immigration as border outrage escalates

President Trump met with House Republicans Tuesday to discuss immigration legislation as lawmakers searched for a way to end the administration's policy of separating families who illegally cross the U.S.-Mexico border.

After the meeting broke up, the White House announced that Trump had endorsed legislation negotiated between GOP leaders and moderate Republicans that promises to "solve the border crisis and family separation issue by allowing for family detention and removal."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/...-escalates.html


Just going to try and set dems up to look bad... won't work. Trump made this mess, dems say he can fix it on his own. 1 phone call, done.


A phone call is not law, legislation passed by Congress and signed by the President is law.

Are you holding these kids hostage now because your Democrats won't pass this simple law?
Shame!


Seems like DemondRats advocate human trafficking, children sold into sex rings and children forced into gangs.

They dodn't want to see if who brings them across the boarder is really their parents.

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I think it's a sad say when anyone condones child abuse for political gain. If you support Trump, that's who YOU ARE.


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